Thread: [matplotlib-devel] Numeric and numarray

John,

What is your present thinking with respect to timetable and strategy for 
dropping Numeric and numarray support?

Thanks.

Eric

Eric Firing wrote:
> John,
>
> What is your present thinking with respect to timetable and strategy for 
> dropping Numeric and numarray support?
>   
With respect to this question it should be remembered that the array 
interface will still allow those using numarray/Numeric to use 
matplotlib.   It's just that they will have to also install NumPy.

At the NIPS conference last week, the author of CVXOPT was there and it 
was interesting to see that he had no problems using matplotlib for the 
array object they came up with for CVXOPT because of the array interface.

So, it seem to me that encouraging people to download NumPy in order to 
use matplotlib is actually a good thing even if they don't convert all 
their legacy code immediately.

I suppose the only group left out will be those who refuse to update 
their Numeric installation to use Numeric > 23.8

-Travis

Eric Firing wrote:
> What is your present thinking with respect to timetable and strategy for 
> dropping Numeric and numarray support?

+1 for dropping them in future versions.

As John so eloquently pointed out recently, MPL is faced with a great 
challenge in supporting so many python versions, backends, etc. This in 
one place we can simplify.

In theory, MPL can use numpy internally, and still get data passed to it 
from Numeric and numarray with the array protocol, so you wouldn't be 
completely abandoning users stuck with the older packages.

-Chris




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>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Firing <ef...@ha...> writes:

    Eric> John, What is your present thinking with respect to
    Eric> timetable and strategy for dropping Numeric and numarray
    Eric> support?

Sorry for the delay getting back -- I've been on vacation for a few
days and just returned.

I'm more or less ready to do it, pending Perry's comments.  I'd like
to make sure his group is ready vis-a-vis Travis' comment, that as
long as they have numpy installed and the array interface they can use
mpl transparently with numarray.

When we are ready to do this, we have to coordinate the release with
the site-documentation, so we have a news flash and upgrade all the
numerix docs, tutorial, etc...  We should also do one or two releases
with a numerix deprecation warning.

JDH