Understanding Cartesian Dualism
Understanding Cartesian Dualism
Dualism:
is the theory that the mental and the physical—or mind and body or mind and brain—are, in some sense,
radically different kinds of thing.
Discussion about dualism, tends to start from the assumption of the reality of the physical world, and then to
consider arguments for why the mind cannot be treated as simply part of that world.
-> Distinguish three claims - the real distinction, substance dualism and property dualism:
(RD) Mind and body could each exist apart and are therefore really distinct substances.
(SD) There are essentially two kinds of matter. Any substance with material properties lacks mental
properties, and any substance with mental properties lacks material properties.
-> Note that one could accept (PD) but reject (SD): one could allow that a single substance had properties of two
distinctively different sorts. We can see Descartes as arguing from (SD) and (PD) to (RD).
Dualism = material and mental substances are distinctly separate (This is because mental substances are not
extended in space, and material substances are composed purely of extension in space).
The mind is thought by Descartes to exist in relation to the human Pineal gland although they are un-
extended.
-> Mind and body are two distinct separate kinds of substances // Descartes has 3 arguments for this:
If it’s possible for us to conceive that our body and mind are distinct, then they must be.
We cannot doubt that we are cognitive being (thinking beings) – can doubt body, but not mind
Can’t imagine any separation from one aspect to another aspect of the mind, unlike how we can lose an
aspect of our bodies.
Responses:
P1) My mind has the property that I cannot doubt its existence
P2) My body has the property that I can doubt its existence
C) Therefore, my mind is distinct from my body
Responses:
1) Problem with both premises: is ‘being doubtable’ really a property in the right sense?
2) implicitly relies on ‘Leibniz’s Law’ - holds that x and y are identical if and only if for any property x has, y has,
and for any property y has, x has
- formulation of LL needs to refer to properties, not descriptions or predicates
- to be an object of doubt is not a property
- to be able to doubt the body’s existence, but not the mind’s existence, doesn’t imply mind + body have diff.
properties doesn’t imply that they are not the same substance!
Responses:
If one material body is filling a space, then another material body cannot at the same time fill that space.
“Extension in length, breadth and depth” – defining feature of material bodies, in a way that does not apply
to immaterial minds
Mind and body compose a certain unity (diff. substances but still related somehow)
-> MAIN ISSUE one of the oldest problems for dualism is to explain how M+B interact w/ each other.
- Responses:
1) Mind-body causation depends upon the mind-body union; perhaps there is something special about this that
allows the mind and body to causally affect one another
o Has not really offered an account of how this would work – explanatory circle
2) Mind-body causation is a ‘primitive notion’, and happens all the time. Fundamental + intelligible in its own
right. Can’t be explained in anything more than basic ideas.
o However, only works if we understand the mind-body union/interaction…do we? Ofc, doesn’t mean we
won’t in the future
o i.e. the fact we don’t currently understand mind-body interaction doesn’t mean it doesn’t occur – doesn’t
mean Descartes’ propositions are false
-> Jaegwon Kim poses – How can minds affect bodies and how can bodies affect minds?
Problem II: The argument from the causal closure of the physical
Modern science assumes that a material world is a causally closed system – all causes and effects in the
material world that is seen has a material cause.
o A commitment to the causally closed nature of the universe is reflected in physics by conservation
principles: mass and energy are convertible, but the total amount of mass-energy is constant.
o This is a problem for immaterial mind
-> Responses
2) Perhaps Kim’s argument relies on faulty assumptions about causation. Does his ‘pairing requirement’ rule out
the possibility of ‘action at a distance’
Summary
- The mind is not identical to the body
- Bodies are defined by Descartes as things which have extension. Since minds are not identical to any bodies,
minds do not have extension
- Bodies sometimes cause effects in minds, and minds sometimes cause effects in bodies
Strengths
- it accords nicely with common sense
- it does justice to the intuition of ‘deisticness’, that the qualities of conscious experience differ dramatically from
qualities of material bodies
Weaknesses:
- Can it reply to the three problems above?
Alternatives
- Materialism: the mind is identified with the body e.g. behaviourism, functionalism
- Idealism: the mind and body are both immaterial or thinking beings (e.g. Berkeley)
Personal Identity
‘I’ am my body. A person is numerically identical to something else existing at a different time if and only if
some material bodily relation holds between them, such as being the same body, biological organism or
animal.
o This view needn’t be committed to the position that I must retain precisely the same bits of matter to
persist over time. Otherwise, it would be subject to ‘ship of Theseus’ objection.
What is a Person?
“A thinking intelligent being, that has reason and reflection, and can consider itself as itself, the same thinking
thing in a different time/place.”
In Locke’s view, you are the same person as a past person if you can remember their past actions or thoughts
- needs to have same consciousness
Cobbler example – If consciousness of a prince enters cobbler’s body, identity would still be the prince’s as
a person has psychological connectedness with its existence over time and that is the prince’s.
o Also, everyone can ‘see’ that the prince is the person occupying the cobbler’s body (we associate his
traits/character etc…)
What about if someone forgets their memories and ‘changes’ into a diff. ‘person’?
Same man but not same person (‘man’ defined by bodily account, ‘person’ defined by psychological acc.)
Possible that personal identity could be preserved throughout change of immaterial substance
o and that the same immaterial substance could support two diff. persons
Amnesia example - say, Plato suffered total amnesia and subsequently developed a new consciousness, a
new person. His ‘soul’ is supporting two diff. persons
DID example - multiple personalities living within one body/one soul
Theoretical possibility of simulating same memories/beliefs etc.. of one person into another ‘soul’ - is there
now one ‘person’ occupying two ‘souls’?
o Similarly, what about ‘transferring’ the same consciousness into another vessel (soul)?
Introduces idea of ‘ancestral relation’ where if each individual is related to the other by ‘R’ (B has R to A, C
has R to B), the entirety of A-C are related
i.e. B contains memory of experience from A, C contains memory of experience from B, therefore the
‘continuity of memory’ holds
o its not as rigid as needing C to remember exactly everything from A
Locke seems to willingly accept the consequences of his theory in all these cases whereby there is a
difference of persons
One can’t be punished for what the same man/substance did when it can’t be conscious of it now
o Possibility to avoid such punishment by somehow forcing legitimate memory loss?
o What about accidental drunkenness? What about scopolamine?
o Could you be acting as a ‘vessel’ for someone else’s evil intentions?
Though Locke agrees sober person ≠ drunk person, he still argues that the punishment against them is in
some sense acceptable as one should answer for their actions (judicially speaking)
o ‘not responsible for one’s free actions ≠ not responsible for one’s actions’
-> Paramnesia/De ja vu - when someone (seems to) remember actions/experiences which aren’t theirs
J.L. Mackie argues (against Williams) that it is true that we commonly use bodily continuity as evidence
for/against the truth of memory claims.
o HOWEVER, claims this is only evidence — not part of genuinely calling something memory
In fact, such ‘evidence’ could be overturned (e.g. by remarkably accurate memory claim)
Would have to take seriously the idea that A was remembering, by some direct causal link, B’s experiences.
for Mackie, paramnesia is no real problem for the psychological account of identity.
This view needn’t be committed to position that one must retain precisely same bits of matter persisting over
time.
o Otherwise would be subject to the ‘Ship of Theseus’ objections
Tries to show that bodily continuity is a necessary condition of personal identity, and memory alone could
not be a sufficient condition of it (against Locke).
Similarly, bodily identity is not sufficient for personal identity - should ALSO take into account
psychological factors such as memory, but bodily account is NECESSARY.
Similarly, memory criterion CANNOT stand alone, but is reliant upon bodily continuity
o To exclude paramnesia, we have to distinguish genuine from apparent memory
o However, Williams argues that we can only do that by appealing to BODILY continuity
Argues ‘we are our bodies’ — natural intuition to resist view, because of thoughts about death
Let’s say someone dies in their sleep — person’s body will persist over time before decomposing
o We may have intuition that the person is gone, but their body is still here that person isn’t identical
to their body? — Thompson says we MUST RESIST this
For Thomson, sameness of body is necessary and sufficient for personal identity
o Human beings are social creatures — how people react to us, and our bodily actions, really affects who
we are.
o Body is the only way that our minds affect the world — really matter.
o It is horrifying to imagine someone else inhabiting our bodies, pretending to be us
Bodily account of identity is how ‘laypeople’ (non-philosophers) almost always think of identity
-> Teleportation - a fictional method by which people or objects travel from one point to another, w/out having to
go through the space in between
Imagine a teleportation machine scans your body and transmits info to second machine, where a new ‘you’
is reconstructed out of entirely new set of atoms (old body destroyed)
At the end, you emerge w/ all of the same beliefs, memories & psychological states you had before
Do you think you would be the same person?
o If YES, then this thought experiment objects the bodily account
o i.e. sameness of consciousness is necessary and sufficient for personal identity
Above, scanning process destroys original body on Earth. But what if original body wasn’t destroyed? Are
‘you’ the person on Earth, or on Mars?
Now, what if the machine transmits to a third machine on Pluto?
o Let’s call them: Jeff-E, Jeff-M & Jeff-P
o We can say: Jeff-E = Jeff-M and Jeff-E = Jeff-P, however also, Jeff-P ≠ Jeff-M
But identity is a transitive relation, so Jeff-P should = Jeff-M we’ve generated a paradox (Jeff-P is both =
and ≠ to Jeff-M)
-> Problem for psychological + bodily account, but have response from Derek Parfit
Parfit argues that no view of personal identity can meet the following two requirements:
(1) Whether a future person will be me must depend only on intrinsic properties. It can’t depend on what
happens to other people.
(2) Since personal identity is of great importance, whether a future person is me cannot depend on a trivial fact
Parfit thinks that if there is such a thing as personal identity, so some view must be able to meet both (1) and
(2).
But, evaluating the B+P accounts show they aren’t successful in doing so
Parfit’s conclusion
Although Parfit thinks psychological continuity (beliefs, desires, memories) matters, the teleportation case
shows that psychological continuity is not identity.
he thinks we should give up on caring about personal identity
o whether it is me that survives teleportation doesn’t really matter - what matters is whether there is
someone psychologically continuous with me.
o “identity is not what matters in survival”
o Parfit thinks that one’s concern for one’s own future existence and well-being is a derivative concern: a
concern not for an end, but for a means to an end.
o The end being the existence + well-being of a future person/s, related to oneself by certain relations of
psychological continuity (though aren’t identical to original)
-> Rather than asking whether ‘you’ would be the same person after teleportation, we might think there is no
‘you’ at all, as an entity that persists through time
Hume believes: “what we call a mind, is nothing but a heap or collection of different perceptions, united
together by certain relations (where a ‘perfect identity’ is but a mere illusion)”
He elaborates: “when I enter most intimately into what I call myself, I always stumble on some particular
perception or other, of heat or cold, pain or pleasure…. I never can catch myself at any time without a
perception, and never can observe anything but the perception.”
Sure, we may have ‘memories’, but even a memory can change the size of a room, or colour of a car (quote
Memento)
Hume suggests ppl believe in a ‘self’ because if something changes gradually over time, we are used to
referring to it as the same thing, even if it’s actually no longer the same thing (e.g. Ship of Theseus)
However, Hume argues there are no paradoxes here - the ship simply isn’t identical over time. The only
question is how we should talk about things - i.e. case of semantics?
o Hume thinks the case of the ‘self’ is especially prone to identity talk, because of the ‘inconceivable
rapidity’ and ‘perpetual flux and movement’ of our perceptions.
The only way to avoid this conclusion would be to posit something other than the ‘self’ which remains the
same. But what?
Obviously we should care if we are identical to ourselves over time (i.e. identity matters)
o However is this true? Is it really a future, identical self we’re caring for, or is it the illusory prospect of
maintaining what we believe to be an identical ‘self’?
o It’s obvious we appear to act by maximizing our utility (e.g. we study in uni now in hopes to prosper in
the future to lead a comfortable life), however, still fails to directly address an actual persistent ‘self’
over time
i.e. our caring for future selves doesn’t immediately imply the persistence of ‘self’
o we may argue that
Hume would care out of ‘sympathy’ - i.e. concern for others - so he just happens to be more concerned for
the future person also known as Hume
o But an explanation for Hume won’t suffice universally - not everyone will feel this inclination to act
out of ‘sympathy’
Noonan points out: “The concept of someone’s having a perception is logically prior to the concept of a
perception… the relation between the self and its perceptions is analogous to that between the sea and its
waves.”
o would explain why Hume keeps talking as if he has a self: “I never can catch myself at any time without
a perception...”
Hume might respond:
o Analogy of sea and waves begs the question.
o Talk in terms of ‘I’ is just a useful manner of talking: all such talk can be translated into talk without
‘I’. No commitment to an enduring self.
o What surveys the perceptions? Nothing. Instead there are current perceptions and memories of previous
perceptions
Noonan thinks: “Hume’s wrong to think identity must be incompatible with change... Persons, in particular,
are entities which can survive many changes without ceasing to exist.”
o This is weak - meaning of ‘person’ is precisely what is being debated.
Concluding thoughts
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
-> Presentism, Eternalism + Growing block theory are theories on what exists
Presentism
Eternalism
Time seems to flow: as though from the future -> present -> past
temporal flow is result of the coming into and passing out of existence of progressive presents
o seems as though time flows, and our world is constantly changing, because it is.
BUT by saying something flows from future into present, you’re implying that future entity exists (and that
there is a ‘past’ to recede into)
o could reinterpret as ‘what’s present changes’ - but still requires diff. in character/content - which is still
incompatible
Problem w/ truthmaking
Presentist claims truths about the past, but denies these objects exist
But truthmaker principle says: “for every truth T, there exists an entity - a ‘truthmaker’ - whose existence
suffices for the truth of T” (Sider, 2001)
grounding objection:
(P2) If presentism is true, then truths about the past lack truthmakers
-> Response #1 - completely deny there are truths about the past
Too bold a claim (dinosaurs did exist, Obama was the POTUS)
if determinism is true, then present moment (+ determinism) would ground past/future truths
but this feature leaves the future fixed - which would make the theory substantially distinct from what we
generally understand (past no more, future yet to be) -> like ‘moving spotlight’ theory
o if something is already predetermined, does it not already somewhat ‘exist’ perhaps not materially as an
eternalist might argue, but in some otherwise transcendent manner (supports eternalism more)
Presentism: all physical events simultaneous w/ each other there is an objective present (regardless of our
knowledge/beliefs)
special relativity (STR) holds that space + time are relative (rather than absolute) as supported by the two
postulates:
(A1) Light travels at the same speed no matter how fast you’re travelling
(A2) The laws of nature are invariant in all non-accelerating frames of reference
consequences of STR: time dilation, relativity of simultaneity
If accept presentism + STR, impossible to determine undoubtedly whether two events happen at same time
if those events are spatially distinct (e.g. Einstein’s train thought experiment)
Argument against presentism from STR:
(P1) STR is true
(P2) If STR is true, then presentism must be false
(C) Thus, presentism is false
could argue compatibility of the two, but arguments primarily involve adopting observer-dependent notion
(inevitable consequence of accommodating both)
o but perhaps changes nature of presentism too dramatically (now there isn’t an objective present??)
there’s a kind of evidence that we have for our being at present, that is not available to people at non-present
times.
o Forrest is arguing that the present and past can be distinguished because ‘activities’ (e.g. consciousness)
only occur on the boundary of reality
o in the past, consciousness ceases to exist + we’d be zombies
Concluding thoughts on time
Presentism
o needs to answer problems on truthmaking + SRT + time travel
o but intuitive to most (past feels more ‘real’ to us than fut. because we know more about it from
memories/records etc…
Eternalism
o needs to explain apparent flow of time
o still the most logical consequence of physics, even if somewhat counter-intuitive
Growing block theory
o needs to explain why now is now
Logical fatalism
holds that future events are ‘determined’, or fixed, through the physical world.
o current state of the universe + laws of nature determine the state of the universe at every point in the
future.
o combination of being determined by one’s surroundings/external stimuli/social interactions/physiology
If determinism is true, covers both our own actions/decisions things (If you think our minds are physical) as
well as ‘non-minded’ physical things
o but also can apply even if mind is not physical
Claims future is predictable
o ≠ “I can’t predict future determinism is false”
o ofc we don’t/can’t know everything about universe/laws of nature
One can find in the writing of many contemporary scientists and philosophers two claims which – I allege – are
inconsistent with one another:
Views
Hard determinism
Argument #1
o to have free will, we must have “the ability to do otherwise”, but if determinism is true, we don’t have
that ability we don’t have free will.
Argument #2
1) We have free will only if our actions are under our own control.
2) Our actions are determined by (are consequences of) the past and the laws of nature.
3) We have no control over the past or over the laws of nature.
4) we have no control over our actions we don’t have free will
Problem #1: how to explain intuitive feeling of control/free-will?
o back to idea that laws of nature are descriptive (they describe regularities that have been observed in
nature)
o laws of man are prescriptive (e.g. marijuana illegal in Singapore, possession results in penalty)
HOWEVER, laws of nature (e.g. Newton’s 1st law of motion) as far as we know are inviolable if
someone broke it, it’d cease to be a law + there’d be a nobel prize awarded
o think of laws of nature as a subclass of true descriptions of the world (whatever happens, there are true
descriptions to accompany)
o don’t think of LONs as existing independently in a transcendent realm, enforced by some supreme
being (that’d indicate prescription)
o by descriptive account, lawhood (n.b. not the laws themselves) is a part of the map not the territory i.e.
they primarily permit us to construct compressed descriptions of our reality (nature doesn’t flag these
regularities as law, we do) - anthropocentric
o we can make choices (some trivial, e.g. buy newspaper, eat toast not cereal, others more
consequential e.g. buy house, get married) where these choices are NOT forced upon us/prescribed by
nature -> they simply reflect those regularities we observe to be ‘the law of nature’
o Our contrasting understanding of LONs + idea of choice presents the misconception of needing the
illusion of ‘free-will’
Problem #2: Quantum mechanics seems to rule out determinism (quantum indeterminancy)
o The (apparent) randomness of the quantum world is well-documented: HUP, the double-slit
experiment, quantum entanglement, etc. all point to a probabilistic, not deterministic, universe
o well, QM doesn’t disprove determinism, it just complicates the task of arguing for it
o most simply, QM postulates that at the subatomic level, particles behave not in a deterministic fashion,
but randomly
Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle:
1) our observation of an event has a significant effect on the event
2) it is impossible for a single observation to observe all relevant properties of an event.
o consider ‘LaPlace’s Demon’ - if you knew every single piece of info (location, momentum etc..) for
every atom in the universe at a given time, you could correctly determine their past and future values
(via the laws of nature)
o ofc given HUP, we run into a problem where this isn’t possible, as at the quantum level, we can’t know
such features
o Assuming this is true, ‘the quantum world is indeterministic’ (assume because there are developing
arguments for a deterministic quantum world - manyworlds/nonlocality) -> doesn’t follow that we have
free will. Because random events ≠ ability to choose freely (do we control the prob. of events?)
o In fact, QM as arg. FOR free will is rather weak as bringing arg. down to a microscopic level ignores
the evidence for determinism on a macroscopic level AND unnecessarily complicates matters which
doesn’t work in its favor anyway
Interesting: the formalism of QM is itself deterministic. Assuming you know the initial state of an isolated
quantum system, the system will evolve forward in time, following Schrodinger’s equation exactly. The
only aspect of quantum theory which is random is what happens when you make a measurement.
o apparent paradox can be reconciled by manyworlds interpretation
o the universe itself becomes a superposition of states w/ every possible outcome, while the
physicist randomly finds himself in one of those outcomes
o the universal wavefunction (containing all universes) would be deterministic, whilst the
measurer in one of those universes effectively "sees" non-determinism.
o WHICH to reiterate does not = free will
Also, when subatomic particles aggregate (into things/objects) the irregularities cancel out statistically & so
we can then speak of nature as uniform and predictable
o ability to calculate such meticulous details requires infinite computational power - inconceivable to
human mind - most translate this into idea of free will
o can explain ‘large-scale’ - e.g. why one might’ve entered into law (traits, upbringing, relations), but not
‘small-scale’ - e.g. why I typed a particular sentence the way I did, eye movements, abstract thought
Libertarianism
Their def. of free will: where agent has ability to choose between two or more actions
argue human minds stand outside nat. world (e.g. Cartesian dualism) escape causal determinism
e.g. we can’t choose when sun rises, but we can choose when we get out of bed
Agent-causal theories
agents have the power to intervene in the physical world
actions are caused by agents, but this is in itself NOT determined by agent’s character/desires etc…(this
would be event causation)
o Chisholm: “each of us, when we act, is a prime mover unmoved”
o problem: If a free action was not caused by an event, then what is the difference between saying an
agent caused the event and simply saying the event happened on its own?
o to what should we ‘tack’ this ‘free act’ to if ‘I’ - the agent - am composed of the very desires/beliefs the
theory proposes not to be of any significance? How can I, or the previous, or future I, be responsible?
o raises problems of personal identity - which one agent is actually doing the choosing? can the
origination of actions really be tied to the substance of an agent?
Event-causal theories
specifically, Robert Kane’s theory related to the role of will power in decision making
holds that: a free decision/action is one for which the agent is “ultimately responsible” (1996)
UR for an action requires, if the action is CD’d, that the cause be a result (at least in part) of some action by
that agent that was not CD’d (self-forming actions - SFAs)
o i.e. ‘moments of indecision’ where agent experiences conflicting wills faced with need to make a
choice (chosen as a result of her own effort, not from coercion/compulsion)
o not all acts are required to be undetermined, condition of UR only requires that some are (i.e. SFAs)
o SFAs form our character; inform our future choices, reasons & motivations
o opportunity to make these character-forming decisions entails responsibility for such actions
two diff. sets of beliefs/values build up in our brains by deterministic processes, then, we choose between
these two visions of who we want to be by means of a random quantum mechanical event.
-> Objection: not truly libertarian, but form of compatibilism
although outcome of an SFA not determined, one's history up to the event is; so the fact that an SFA will
occur is also determined.
o no diff. than compatibilism: assert that even though our actions are determined, they’re free because
they are in accordance with our own wills, much like the outcome of an SFA
Kane responds: diff. between causal indeterminism and compatibilism is "ultimate/originative control” - i.e.
UR assures the conditions for one's actions don’t lie before one's own birth.
-> Daniel Dennet: notes SFA not guaranteed some don’t have FW? though appear the same?
-> Objection: compatibilists dispute the claim that moral responsibility is incompatible with determinism.
Compatibilism
where a free act is merely a matter of doing what one wants/wills to do, even though they’re det. by external
events
most suppose the concept of FW very closely connected to the concept of moral responsibility (i.e. FW is a
necessary condition for responsibility)
o acting w/ FW, on such views, is just to satisfy the metaphysical requirement of being responsible for
one's action.
importance to the FW problem: includes presumed connection between FW + either agency, autonomy,
creativity or meaning in life