Class 4
Market Capitalization> 1000 Cr-
How much to spend to buy all shares at CMP
HDFC Bank and HDFC ltd -merger
Asian Paints -Market cap 276000 cr (in 2000 cr in yr 2000 market cap)
Share price -Frm 2000 (Rs22)-,Rs2882 2022-137 times increase
Indigo paints -Multi Bagger
-Zero debt,FA growth sales and proft grow 5 th largest co.High Paint consumption and demand also.Brand Value also
Car paints -no of car per 1000-22rural areas -schools highways ofcs all will be painted
Market cap 5408 cr
CMP 30 in 2003 -to 2023 -100
In 15 yrs max-can become 250000 . 50 times growth
India in self growth mode
World -SE Asia ruled by China, India and Middle east includes Russia small areas, Europe and America
Middle East,Australia and Japan need India’s help
Britinnia-104000(30 times ) -in 20 yrs gave 60 times return
Mrs Bector-3500 .Next 10 yrs same position as Britinnia
same products Same reputation
5paisa-MCap 900 cr -discount broker. Now NP 34 cr Revenue 367cr(Multi Bagger)- in 6 yrs same as Angel 11 times
Angel MCap 10200 cr 11 times -NP 34 cr in 2017 revenue 400 cr
Per share
CMP- Market cap/no of shares -MRF 36k cr
BV- ( Share capital +Reserves)/no of shares-or Shareholders funds or Equity-No co will sell co at BV-Actual worth
Generally appears less as Brand value not incorporated and Land appreciation also not there
FV - Share capital/no of shares -Initial amt used to start co .MRF-4 cr-
Bajaj Hind Sugar and all Sugar cos
MCap 1800 cr,(1/10) of value of land) Land 3713 cr total plants—14 in most fertile land in India-Current value of land 20Kcr
No competitors -Entry Barrier
Debt- 5400cr -can recover by selling 3 plants, Hidden BV -But not required as revival will come
2025 target to mix ethanol-
Current Scenario-problem
Sugar industry -more production of sugar less consumption .And cannot export also .as price decided at international level is
less.But production cost is same even if price declined in intt market
Farmers need MSP -MSP decided by state govt -Govt will not come in power if price not increase.So Suagrcane price has to
increase.
Farmers produce more sugarcane but 100 % has to be utilized by govt -even though consumption is less and cannot be
exported also.
Soln-
Produce ethanol +Sugar < demand price will increase
Govt will pay premium for ethanol and buy all
Next 5 yrs – price will increase
PNB-Lot of properties all over India -to recover NPAS
Paper cos revived due to resturants-Amazon Flipkart Blinkit-etc Entry Barrier-Big size land, Bamboo jungle,Enviornment
clearance required
JK Paper- 700 cr own funds 4 times borrowing earlier-Now reduced
2014 loss making now profit 1000 cr
PE Ratio –Payback period(MCap Price /Net Profit)(CMP/EPS)
1589000-MCAP ,74000 NP,Will recover in 24 yrs if same NP every yr ,
But NP will increase every yr so 24 yrs will not take
Britinnia
2011-to 2023 22 times ,2023 -104000 cr
2011-MCap-4727 cr in 2011,NP 134 cr PE -35 ,, 35 yrs to recover
But actual 8 yrs to earn 5400 cr
PE ratio depends at what speed NP increases
Indigo Paints -PE 46 - From 2016 – Current -600 times increase in profit(considering negative factor) ,last 3 yrs – 2.5 times
profit increase
Asian Paints –PE 72 From -2016- to Current -profit double in 7 yrs
Rate of increase in NP higher than Asian Paints even though it is smaller.-Higher PE of Indigo is justifiable
US
Industrialization
A -100 cr 20 cr NP- we will buy A -5 yrs to recover , B-100 cr 10 cr NP-
Profit did not increase every yr as no loan system. Entire profit distributed as dividend -PE less the better .
PSUs and Govt cos in India same concept – so low PE ratio .No growth-profit distributed as dividends
Pvt cos -Hold NP for growth -Trade at higher PE.
Practical Use
PSU invest PE Ratio important ,Pvt companies PE ratio not required..
For Trading PE ratio not at all important
Multi Baggers- PE ratio not important as huge scope for growth
Alembic Pharma
10000 MCAP 220 cr NP 48 PE ratio but this is not actual PE
Last 2 yrs profit reduced frm 1140 to 220 cr due high inflation Ukraine and Russia war
Once Inflation cools off -PE ratio again 10 as profit will be 1140 cr
Current -FA-1745 cr and CWIP 2357 cr when complete-total capacity 4000cr +Inflation cool then NP double -2200 cr
PE 4.5 times, Appears-48.Share price 3 times atleast
1100 cr NP -Op capacity 1700 cr
Example
Co 100 cr 10 cr profit PE 10 for any reason Next yr -2 cr NP – PE 50 temporary basis
Example
5 paisa -MCAP 903 cr , will take 5 yrs to become Angel Broking ,After 5 yrs -Payback period -1,Angel Broking -NP 900 cr
Balrampur chini-NP -500 cr ,10 plants . NP 1000 -2000 cr-if sugar supply reduce
Bajaj Hindustan -Mcap 1800 cr 14 plants- if 14 plants then 700 cr NP as per Balaram chini.PE 2/3 if debt free or same
condition
As soon as ethanol production starts
Indigo MCAP 5400 cr =Asian Paints NP
PE ratio for trader not important -if less expensive pvt co good ,high also good
Share price < BV -good
Share price > BV – not bad as BV hidden value also
PE ratio < 10 -+ve
PE ratio > 10 -not bad
Dividend yield
Large cap 1.5 -2% div yield
PSUs cos -7.-8 % eg PFCs when stock price high-7.6%
Right level to Buy high dividend paying cos-
If price comes 20 % below 200 day MA-then Buy and goes down further then buy again .. And sell at the same high level
26% return + 10 % dividend
ROCE-non banking and non financial cos -
If ROCE> 30% -Great co -earning on available funds
If ROCE 15-30% Above avg
If ROCE < 20% ignore
ROE Banking cos
<10% -ignore
Promoter’s Holding
Strong hands=Promotor ,FIIS DII,HNIs Weak hands-Public-HNIS
If retail > 30 % -ignore. Strong hands should have more than 70%
Pledged % -related to promoters only->10 % pledging % Avoid
Example
Vedanta
100 % shares pledged-they purchased 20 % shares from public,DIIS and FIIS -they pledged own co shares(55%) and bought
20 % shares, Kept pledging shares and buy more shares, Started paying high dividend and repaid the loan taken
Same Harshad Mehta
Business Model Vedanta-Linked to metal prices if fall then in intt market- profit wiped -no div-will not be able to repay loan-
share price fall ,pledged parties will sell shares
Adani Ports– never become loss making own cartlel not linked to intt market
Adani Green – RM cost is zero -only sunlight required
D/E Ratio > 25 % then ignore(NA in banking and NBFCs)
Quarterly results
-Compare same CY Q to same PY Q because seasonal business
-Operating profit margin-don’t compare with other cos as business nature is different
-Other income and tax-all manipulation done here
-Ad tax pay every Q-
delay in paying ad tax- as RM is cheap now .NP profit will increase.only extra interest burden.
Say 100 cr Ad tax due .But RM next yr 15% exp .So buy RM extra interest 4.5% ..NP will look inflated.
Qtrly results manipulated to increase/decrease stock price -not important
So Check long term track record
Depreciation-
FA-Operational
CWIP-once it becomes operational -sales and NP will increase
Cash flows of no use
Read Concalls
Multi Baggers-Indigo Paints, Bector 5 paisa, Bajaj Hind Sugar,Alembic Pharma