From: eregontp@... Date: 2020-10-26T07:46:02+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:100559] [Ruby master Feature#17145] Ractor-aware `Object#deep_freeze` Issue #17145 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze). marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune) wrote in #note-31: > My understanding is that will never be the case. You can't have 1) fast and 2) concurrent access to mutable data. Digressing a bit, I would say it's possible ([thread-safe Array](https://eregon.me/blog/assets/research/thread-safe-collections.pdf)), but not with Ractor's model which requires copying or moving objects. So yes, I think a mutable Array will never become Ractor-shareable because it would be too incompatible (due to copying/moveing the elements or only accepting shareable values). Also if we have a type for which it becomes problematic, we could always add some keyword argument to handle it specially. I think freezing all named modules and their constants could possibly be something useful for Ractor, but that IMHO should be its own method, like `Ractor.freeze_all_modules` or so. I guess in practice it doesn't work well at all, as it becomes very likely with more code, that some code needs mutable modules (e.g., @ivars on modules, `autoload` & lazy method definitions, ...). Maybe `Ractor.freeze_all_constants` is more useful. But again with more code there is a high chance something expects a mutable constant, and that would work fine if non-main Ractors don't use it. Anyway, they are special cases, and I think for deep freeze, it's just not interesting to freeze modules. BTW, https://github.com/dkubb/ice_nine does not freeze modules either. (`ruby -rice_nine -e 'IceNine.deep_freeze(Enumerable); p Object.frozen?'` => `false`) ---------------------------------------- Feature #17145: Ractor-aware `Object#deep_freeze` https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17145#change-88188 * Author: marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal ---------------------------------------- I'd like to propose `Object#deep_freeze`: Freezes recursively the contents of the receiver (by calling `deep_freeze`) and then the receiver itself (by calling `freeze`). Values that are shareable via `Ractor` (e.g. classes) are never frozen this way. ```ruby # freezes recursively: ast = [:hash, [:pair, [:str, 'hello'], [:sym, :world]]].deep_freeze ast.dig(1, 1) # => [:str, 'hello'] ast.dig(1, 1).compact! # => FrozenError # does not freeze classes: [[String]].deep_freeze String.frozen? # => false # calls `freeze`: class Foo def freeze build_cache! puts "Ready for freeze" super end # ... end [[[Foo.new]]].deep_freeze # => Outputs "Ready for freeze" ``` I think a variant `deep_freeze!` that raises an exception if the result isn't Ractor-shareable would be useful too: ```ruby class Fire def freeze # do not call super end end x = [Fire.new] x.deep_freeze! # => "Could not be deeply-frozen: #" ``` -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: