From: Evan Phoenix <evan@...>
Date: 2010-07-12T16:41:06+09:00
Subject: [ruby-core:31206] Re: [Bug #3140] gem activation has changed  between 1.8 and 1.9


On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Yusuke ENDOH wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 2010/7/12 Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com>:
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Yusuke ENDOH <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
>>> Uh-oh, rc2 has been released.
>>> This issue entered a more difficult phase...
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> This means that Evan Phoenix fix hasn't been integrated?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
>> That is a terrible news, considering that Roger Pack's report was
>> highly unlikely be related or associated with Evan's fix.
> 
> Agreed.  But unless the problem is reported without the fix, we can't
> help but be conservative to include the fix.

This is very bad news. This fix effects a lot of people. I did not respond because Roger indicate he could not reproduce it himself. No one has been able to reproduce the issue, including Roger himself. If that is the reason the fix did not make it into 1.9.2, that's very sad.

> 
> 
>> Where we can see the schedule of releases? Aiming in the future not
>> miss those deadlines with critical things that could be problematic
>> for lot of developers.
> 
> http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/wiki/ruby-19/ReleasePlan
> 
> Originally, rc1 had been the last chance to include the patch with
> public preview.  But Yugui planned to release rc2 to spare us some
> time for some issues.  We missed the true last chance.
> 
> 
> I talked with Yugui a few minutes, and
> 
>  - she had had no reluctance to include the fix if it is dependable
>    (but I don't know whether she will accept the fix even after rc2)
> 
>  - she didn't think this issue was serious because it could be
>    worked around by using bundler (? I'm not sure that I understand
>    her opinion precisely)

This is exactly backwards from what I understand. This bug means that bundler can not run on 1.9.2, and thus rails 3.0 can not run on 1.9.2. This is what Yehuda has told me.

If 1.9.2 can not support rails 3, I fear that the ruby community will reject 1.9.2 right away. I ask that matz, yugui, and all ruby-core developers consider this before allowing the bug to go unfixed.

The pace of this bug has frustrated everyone, please don't let it die now.

 - Evan

> 
> -- 
> Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp>
> 
>