From: me@... Date: 2016-01-23T01:27:40+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:73276] [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct Issue #12004 has been updated by Marie Markwell. To start: I 100% agree with adding a CoC. I also agree with using the Contributor Covenant. I would be willing to consider an altered/different CoC, but not any of the ones I've seen so far. Looking at the diff that Olivier (https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#note-271) linked to (https://gist.github.com/olivierlacan/84bd12d0ac13dfdd85d2/revisions?diff=split): 1. What's the purpose of the removal of "public or private"? 2. An address being electronic (e.g. email) doesn't make it less sensitive. Just because you have it doesn't mean you have the right to share it. Not everybody shares their email address and such freely. 3. The largest chunk that was altered/removed effectively renders it useless (I'll go into this more later). 4. Removing attribution? Really? Now, let's dive into 3 a bit. 1. You changed "have the right and responsibility" to "may." Do maintainers *not* have to enforce it, if it's adopted? If they do, what was the purpose of loosening the language like that? If they don't, the act of adopting it would be useless. 2. You removed the part about maintainers being allowed to ban people. Why? 3. **You removed the part that says the CoC will be enforced fairly. The possibility of it *not* being applied fairly is what many of the negative responses have been about.** 4. You removed the part that says that it applies in public spaces *when people are representing the project or its community*. Why would you want to allow people to get away with it *when explicitly representing the Ruby community*? I don't get that at all. ---------------------------------------- Misc #12004: Code of Conduct https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#change-56505 * Author: Coraline Ada Ehmke * Status: Assigned * Priority: Normal * Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto ---------------------------------------- I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open Source projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github that have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant by a lot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's Atom text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse, rspec, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an option in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license selection. Many open source language communities have already adopted the code of conduct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and Apple's Swift. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby projects that had a solid code of conduct in place. Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting the Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted by the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopting it for the core Ruby language as well. Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is define what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness, courtesy, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from people who may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all contributors regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors. And it makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on these values with action when and if an incident arises. I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting the adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued welcoming and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full text of the Contributor Covenant at http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at http://contributor-covenant.org/. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. ---Files-------------------------------- Screen Shot 2016-01-22 at 6.45.23 PM.png (595 KB) Ruby_Code_of_Conduct_Numbers.png (119 KB) -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: