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Are transformations complicated or complex? Recently, our very own Paola Stefania Garbini had the chance to discuss with Patrick KOLLER on how to drive transformations through complexity. Watch their conversation! #Transformation #BusinessInsights

Great conversation. And yes, the iterative nature of transformation is what makes it powerful. Every round builds something deeper and more resilient.

Great question—because the answer shapes how we lead change. Complicated problems can be solved with the right tools and expertise. Complex challenges, however, require adaptability, systems thinking, and deep collaboration. Loved hearing Paola Stefania Garbini and Patrick KOLLER dive into this distinction and what it means for real-world transformation. It’s about navigating uncertainty with courage and then communicating those insights with clarity.

Paola Stefania Garbini

Executive Director, Head of Marketing Europe, Oliver Wyman | Brand Strategy Advisor | 2x HERoes Role Model, INvolve | Ones To Watch, Brummell | Founder and Community Builder, NOI Club

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It was an honor to spend time with you Patrick. Thank you Hanna for the introductions! I learnt the importance of trust and honesty as key ingredients of change.

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