Memorandum
Memorandum
To:
From:
Date:
RE:
TISTWG Members
Dan Hardy
January 4, 2015
LATR CONCEPT SHEETS AND DECEMBER 3 MEETING COMMENTS
This memorandum summarizes the comments made on the boards themselves during our December 3
TISTWG meeting, including placement of dots by folks at the meeting:
The first four pages summarize the dot-placement and comments received at the December 3 meeting
boards (essentially the same material sent via e-mail 12/23 with a few minor amendments based on
comments received through 12/31).
The remaining pages summarize the proposed responses to the individual comments received.
Dan
Civic
Development
Community
Guest
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January 4, 2015
SA-2.
Alternative Review Procedure
White Flint (no change)
Study Triggers (starting on page 11)
ST-1.
Trip Generation Threshold
ST-2.
Study Area
ST-3.
Background Traffic
ST-4.
Comments
No longer relevant within the
White Flint Sector Plan due to
special impact tax
TMAGs must include penalties if
they are not fulfilled
Weak in current condition not
good when expired
Need a better tie to impact tax
spending
Expand to other areas BRT
Might only apply to this particular
case
If below threshold still pay into a
sidewalk fund or similar
May be tough politically
Tripgen matters
But we are saying we will tolerate
more congestion
How do we address the
cumulative impacts over time?
Must acknowledge this is still a
LOS/congestion based measure
Must address threshold, rate,
context
Any benefit for presence of BRT
should not apply to suburban and
rural policy areas
Site proportion of traffic could
disincentivize development on 2
lane streets
Study area changes based on
context
Seven intersections/rings too big
for LATR
Cant ignore background traffic
better pipeline project
management
APFO validity timeframes make
pipleline difficult to manage
Weighting modes differently
why?
Make sure the trigger first is for
auto
Locating bikeshare within mile
doesnt make sense
Multiple triggers
Different triggers by Policy Area
Required in CBD Sector Plans and
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January 4, 2015
in the CR Zones
Use a transect zone concept for
both land use and transportation
network
Require only in CBD/MSPA/LRT
station areas
Study Refinements (starting on page 24)
SR-1.
Potomac Two-Lane Policy (no
change)
SR-2,
Exempt Second Improvement
Mitigating < 5 CLV (no change)
SR-3.
Protected Intersections
SR-4.
Non-Transportation-Related Policies
(no change)
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January 4, 2015
AM-2.
AM-3.
AM-4.
AM-5.
CLV/HCM Thresholds
Comments
In past a lot of work for little
credit
Duration + enforcement of TMAgs
Should be strengthened in
CBD/MSPA/LRT/BRT areas
Accessibility should be measured
in travel time, not distance
(signals cause delay)
Capture quality of ped
environment
Add WMATA list/process for onsite access improvement needs
Analysis should be on whether trip
can be made, not on the
volume/demand
Should be strengthened in
CBD/MSPA/LRT/BRT areas
Include topography
Should be County responsibility to
define and provide metrics
Analysis should be on whether trip
can be made, not on the
volume/demand
Bikeshare should be consideration
Should be County responsibility to
define and provide metrics
Emphasis on transit facility size
Emphasis on ped access and
quality of bus stops
Purchasing a bus is expensive a
common fund or escrow account
payment is better
Eliminate CLV thresholds in four
CBDS
Different CLV for LRT,
programmed BRT
Not all Metro stations are alike not all should have 1800 CLV (ex.
Shady Grove should be lower)
Base threshold on building
location, not intersection location
Rename Mobility Assessment
Report
Do the simulation HCM+CLV are
not enough
Operational, not planning Hard
to explain to public
Should County maintain Synchro
files?
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January 4, 2015
AS-3.
5
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January 4, 2015
Comments
Apply for MSPAs/urban areas only
could be use specific
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January 4, 2015
Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
SA-1/2
SA-1/3
SA-1/4
SA-1/5
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
SA-1/6
MCDOT, 12/5
Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
SA-1/7
MCDOT, 12/5
Response
TMAgs beyond Concept SA-1. Many
approaches are already under the
purview of the Planning Board and
Executive Branch. Given the complexity
of potential approaches and stakeholder
interests, we suggest more widespread
changes to all TMAg processes should not
be part of the current Subdivision Staging
Policy assessment. Rather, changes to
only SA-1 could provide a springboard for
further TMAg process discussions in
other regulatory venues.
No changes are proposed to this existing
LATR concept.
SA-2/3
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
This does prompt some other ideas not explicitly limited to White
Flint:
Value Capture concepts are worth consideration, particularly
where major capital investments are needed that are likely to
create a large increase in land values. Options might focus on
taxing forecast value gains to pay for infrastructure up front (risk
primarily on developers), or taxing actual realized value gains to
pay off bonds after a project is built (risk primarily on the public).
Response
the policy for any given area.
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
ST-1/2
12/3 meeting
board
ST-1/3
Tripgen matters
ST-1/4
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
Topic/
Comment #
ST-1/5
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
ST-1/6
12/3 meeting
board
ST-1/7
12/3 meeting
board
ST-1/8
Any benefit for presence of BRT should not apply to suburban and
rural policy areas
Any increases in trip generation thresholds will inherently result in
both a higher level of congestion, and a decrease in transportation
projects & funding from the private sector.
Might increases in the de minimis threshold be accompanied by
another gain that would serve the public interest, such as
something promoting non-auto modes, a TMAg, etc.? [noting that
such costs might exceed the costs of just going the route of LATR,
or they may have been otherwise required, anyway]
Regarding the bullet reading Adjacent intersections within CBDs
tend to operate well below the congestion standards, as noted in
the previous section regarding White Flint: this tends to partly be a
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
ST-1/9
ST-1/10
ST-1/11
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
ST-2/3
ST-2/4
Regarding the proposed intersection exclusion where sitegenerated volume is less than 1% of actual volume. We suggest
instead that a lower threshold be used (0.5%?) or even better just
a number of trips. But in any case it should be applied to trips that
are part of the critical movements, not all trips entering an
intersection.
MCDOT, 12/5
ST-2/5
Regarding the proposed intersection exclusion where sitegenerated volume is less than 5% of total site generated traffic,
consider a maximum limitation on how this exclusion may be
applied. For example, for a development generating 2000 trips:
5% would be 100 trips, which could be a substantial number at
some intersections (particularly if a new or critical movement, per
the preceding comment). So, this percentage is too high and
should be significantly reduced. As in the previous case, we
suggest the use of a number of trips, not a percentage.
MCDOT, 12/5
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Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
ST-3/2
12/3 meeting
board
ST-3/3
Buildings that are built but unoccupied are not currently included
in LATR analyses. It was noted in the 12/3 discussion that the
LCOR development is built (hence removed from background
traffic) but has a high vacancy rate (hence not being captured in
existing traffic). The occupancy of vacancy rates are captured
by the traffic counts used in the analysis. Occupancy and vacancy
rates are temporary in nature. The process must deal with the
long term effects, not just in the temporary condition at any one
point in time
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
ST-4/2
12/3 meeting
board
ST-4/3
12/3 meeting
board
ST-4/4
Multiple triggers
12/3 meeting
board
ST-4/5
ST-4/6
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
ST-4/7
Use a transect zone concept for both land use and transportation
network
Require only in CBD/MSPA/LRT station areas
ST-4/8
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
Response
likelihood of meaningful modal responses
is warranted. The thresholds for each
mode are unrelated to each other.
The proposed approach starts with
person trips and applies individual modal
thresholds. See example added to
1/4/15 LATR Concepts memorandum.
Further consideration needed; the
concern is that bicycle mode shares are
so low that a bike-mode analysis needs
another basis (or should be combined
with a pedestrian analysis). See
threshold analysis example added to
1/4/15 LATR Concepts memorandum.
Agreed see threshold analysis example
added to 1/4/15 LATR Concepts
memorandum.
To be considered based on discussion on
balancing placemaking objectives
Proposed concept would apply
Countywide, but transit, bike, and
pedestrian analyses would typically only
be triggered by medium to large
development proposals in more urban
areas. Defining thresholds numerically
rather than by geographic area actually
increases context-sensitivity; see
threshold analysis example added to
1/4/15 LATR Concepts memorandum.
See response to ST-4/6
See response to ST-4/6
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Topic/
Comment #
ST-4/9
ST-4/10
ST-4/11
ST-4/12
Comment
Source
board
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Response
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January 4, 2015
Topic/
Comment #
ST-4/13
ST-4/14
ST-4/15
Comment
AM-2, and AM-3.
Confirm that 100 person trips reflects net person trips and not
explicitly bicycle trips. If the latter, this value appears high: it
should at most be lower than the equivalent value for pedestrians
&/or vehicle trips.
Consider whether the statement referencing proximity to
Bikeshare, college, or high school should be an AND statement
or an OR statement. Consider whether the range to Bikeshare,
college, or high school should be mile direct, or if it should be a
mile walkingshed.
MCDOT is currently developing an internal policy for Bikeshare.
The current thinking is that it will designate near-term and longterm expansion areas. Note that this may change the nature of
this Bikeshare trigger from being distance-based to instead being
located within one of these expansion areas (assuming the
structure of our draft is unchanged into the final version).
Source
Response
MCDOT, 12/5
Confirmed.
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
SR-3/2
12/3 meeting
board
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January 4, 2015
Topic/
Comment #
SR-3/3
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
SR-3/4
SR-3/5
Good idea!
SR-3/6
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
SR-3/7
MCDOT, 12/5
SR-3/8
The Analysis weakness states that this would detract from finding
other negotiated-exaction solutions, such as non-auto facilities
for a per-trip fee. Clarify this statement. It is DOTs position that
alternative solutions need to be permanent in nature.
MCDOT, 12/5
Comment noted.
Agreed that as proposed, the private
sector funding would be decreased.
Otherwise, capabilities to address
congestion can still be undertaken by the
public sector. Selection of candidate
protected intersections is dependent on
sufficient network redundancy to
develop a comfort level with the policy
approach (akin to the Potomac Policy
Area 2-lane policy).
The concept of sufficient network
redundancy, as proposed, requires traffic
dispersion on designated arterial or
business district streets that are of an
appropriate functional classification to
accommodate diverted traffic.
The objective of the Protected
Intersection concept is to streamline
development approvals from seeking
incremental traffic capacity additions
(i.e., turn lanes) where none are actually
desired by policy. However, one sideeffect of the exemption would be that
a $12K/trip non-auto facility that would
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Topic/
Comment #
SR-3/9
SR-3/10
SR-3/11
Comment
Source
Response
MCDOT, 12/5
WMATA,
12/31
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
To be clarified.
12/3 meeting
board
AA-1/2
AA-1/3
12/3 meeting
board and
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Comment noted.
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Topic/
Comment #
AA-1/4
Comment
Source
Response
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
AM-1/2
AM-1/3
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
AM-1/4
AM-1/5
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
AM-1/6
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Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
Response
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
To be considered further.
MCDOT, 12/5
To be considered further.
AM-1/7
AM-1/8
AM-1/9
AM-1/10
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Topic/
Comment #
AM-1/11
Comment
Source
Response
WMATA,
12/31
To be considered further.
12/3 meeting
board
AM-2/2
Include topography
AM-2/3
AM-2/4
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
AM-2/5
AM-2/6
Topic/
Comment #
AM-2/7
AM-2/8
AM-2/9
AM-2/10
Comment
sidewalk case mentioned in AM-1, consider what implementation,
conditions, enforcement, etc. can be levied based on the findings
of an analysis, be it adequacies identified in capacity or operations.
The trigger given at the top of p38 (regarding the Washington DC
draft CTR) appears to list particularly large values. Consider
whether these thresholds should be smaller. (for comparison, the
reference to the draft CTR in the AM-3 appears to have a more
reasonable trigger threshold)
Consider how topography might be factored in, as steep terrain
can affect the level of comfort for bicyclists.
The last of the Next Steps notes identifying methods to incentivize
this issue. Also consider situations where we may wish to require
action upon this issue.
Yes, a valuable tool like AM-1
Source
Response
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
To be considered further.
WMATA,
12/31
Comment noted.
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Comment noted.
AM-3/2
AM-3/3
AM-3/4
AM-3/5
AM-3/6
To be considered further.
Ped access under consideration; quality
of bus stops to be considered further.
To be considered further.
To be considered further.
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Topic/
Comment #
AM-3/7
AM-3/8
AM-3/9
Comment
TPAR addresses their overarching issues, but the operational
issues are the focus of LATR. Transit TPAR does not look at
demand and capacity, and therefore we feel there is a nexus to
include these considerations in LATR.
While I think transit analyses may be very important, note that this
has a potential to significantly increase complexity. For example, a
detailed analysis may be cyclical: the site generates X trips, this
prompts additional buses to increase frequency, now because of
better service the site generates X+Y trips, which might prompt
additional service, etc. We would need to establish criteria as to
how to handle such potential iterations.
Source
Response
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
WMATA,
12/31
To be considered further.
Topic/
Comment #
AM-4/1
Comment
Source
Response
To be considered
AM-4/2
AM-4/3
Not all Metro stations are alike - not all should have 1800 CLV (ex.
Shady Grove should be lower)
Base threshold on building location, not intersection location
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
AM-4/4
AM-4/5
AM-4/6
AM-4/7
To be considered
To be considered
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
To be considered.
MCDOT, 12/5
To be considered.
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Topic/
Comment #
AM-4/8
Comment
Source
Response
WMATA
To be considered.
To be considered as this report, or a
similar document, may become a logical
repository for a wide variety of
multimodal transportation system
performance measures developed and
maintained by M-NCPPC for Subdivision
Staging Policy purposes.
Under consideration
12/3 meeting
board
AM-5/2
AM-5/3
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
AM-5/4
AM-5/5
AM-5/6
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Under consideration.
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Topic/
Comment #
AM-5/7
Comment
Source
Response
WMATA,
12/31
Under consideration.
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
AS-2/2
12/3 meeting
board
AS-2/3
Confirm the current fee, which has likely increased beyond the
$12,000/trip listed. An escalation feature must be included in the
concept, and the value of $12,000 to start should be updated, if
necessary.
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
Under consideration.
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Topic/
Comment #
AS-3/2
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
AS-3/3
12/3 meeting
board
AS-3/4
MCDOT, 12/5
D-1: VMT
D-1/1
12/3 meeting
board
D-1/2
MCDOT, 12/5
MCDOT, 12/5
Comment noted.
MCDOT, 12/5
Comment noted.
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Topic/
Comment #
Comment
Source
Response
particularly given the limited size of our urban areas & lower
density of street networks / alternative routes.
12/3 meeting
board
D-4/2
12/3 meeting
board
D-4/3
MCDOT, 12/5
12/3 meeting
board
D-5/2
D-5/3
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
Topic/
Comment #
D-5/4
D-5/5
Comment
Source
12/3 meeting
board
MCDOT, 12/5.
Response
series of geographically-based caps have
been in place since the 1970s for
privately operated public garages in the
most urban portions of the city. More
recently, the city has developed a
broader set of parking space ratio
guidelines for a slightly larger geographic
area and made all off-street parking a
conditional use subject to the Citys
Zoning Board of Appeals, without
establishing any particular numeric caps
or other requirements. Additional detail
is provided in the revisions to D-5.
Comment noted. See responses above.
Under consideration.
12/3 meeting
board
Topic/
Comment #
O-3/1
Comment
Source
Response
12/3 meeting
board
12/3 meeting
board
Comment noted.
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