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Whatdoes0x47umeananyway?
Saturday,July21st,2012byNigelJones
InthelastcoupleofyearsIhavehadalargenumberoffolksenduponthisblogasaresultofsearchtermssuch
aswhatdoes0X47umean?Inanefforttomaketheirvisitmoreproductive,Illexplainandalsooffersome
thoughtsonthetopic.
Backinthemistsoftime,itwasconsideredperfectlyacceptabletowritecodethatlookslikethis:
unsignedintfoo=6;
IndeedImguessingthatjustabouteveryCtextbookouttherehasjustsuchaconstructsomewhereinitsfirst
fewchapters.Sowhatswrongwiththisyouask?Well,accordingtotheC90semantics,constantsbydefault
areoftypesignedint.Thustheabovelineofcodetakesasignedintandassignsittoanunsignedint.Nownot
somanyyearsago,mostpeoplewouldhavejustshruggedandgotonwiththetaskofchurningoutcode.
However,thefolksatMISRAlookedaskanceatthispractice(andcorrectlysoIMHO),andpromulgatedrule
10.6:
Rule10.6(required):AUsuffixshallbeappliedtoallconstantsofunsignedtype.
Nowintheworldofcomputing,unsignedtypesdontseemtocropupmuch.Howeverintheembeddedarena,
unsignedintegersareextremelycommon.IndeedIMHOyoushouldusethem.Forinformationondoingso,see
here.
ThuswhathashappenedasMISRAadoptionhasspreadthroughouttheembeddedworld,isyouarestartingto
seecodethatlookslikethis:
unsignedintfoo=6u;
Sothisbringsmetotheanswertothequestionposedinthetitlewhatdoes0x47umean?Itmeansthatitisan
unsignedhexadecimalconstantofvalue47hex=71decimal.Iftheuisomittedthenitisasigned
hexadecimalconstantofvalue47hex.
Someobservations
Youactuallyhavethreewaysthattosatisfyrule10.6.Hereareexamplesofthethreemethods.
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unsignedintfoo=6u;
unsignedintfoo=6U;
unsignedintfoo=(unsignedint)6;
Letsdispensewiththethirdmethodfirst.Iamnotafanofcasting,mainlybecausecastingmakescodehardto
readandcaninadvertentlycoverupallsortsofcodingmistakes.Asaresult,anymethodologythatresultsin
increasedcastsincodeisabadidea.Ifthatdoesntconvinceyou,thenconsiderinitializinganunsignedarray
usingcasts:
unsignedintbar[42]={(unsignedint)89,(unsignedint)56,(unsignedint)12,...};
Theresultisalotoftypingandamesstoread.Dontdoit!
Whatthenofthefirstmethods?ShouldyouusealowercaseuoranuppercaseU.WellIhavereluctantly
comedowninfavorofusinganuppercaseU.AestheticallyIthinkthatthelowercaseuworksbetter,inthat
thelowercaseletterislessintrusiveandkeepsyoureyeonthedigits(whichafteralliswhatsreally
important).HereswhatImean:
unsignedintbar[42]={89u,56u,12u,...};
unsignedintbar[42]={89U,56U,12U,...};
SowhydoIuseuppercaseU?WellitsbecauseUisnttheonlymodifierthatonecanappendtoaninteger
constant.OnecanalsoappendanLorlmeaningthattheconstantisoftypelong.Theycanalsobe
combinedasinUL,ul,LUorlu,tosignifyanunsignedlongconstant.Theproblemisthatalowercase
llooksanawfullotlikea1inmosteditors.Thusifyouwritethis:
longbar=345l;
Isthat345Lor3451?ToreallyseewhatImean,trytheseexamplesinastandardtexteditor.Anywayasa
result,IalwaysuseuppercaseLtosignifyalongconstantandthustobeconsistentIuseanuppercaseU
forunsigned.IcouldofcourseuseuLbutthatjustlooksweirdtome.
IncidentallybaseduponthecodeIhavelookedatoverthelastdecadeorso,IdsaythatImintheminorityon
thistopic,andthatmorepeopleusethelowercaseu.Idbeinterestedtoknowwhatthereadersofthisblogdo
particularlyiftheyhaveareasonfordoingsoratherthanwhim!
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1. JeffGrossays:
July21,2012at1:02pm
Ivebeenusingtheexactsamepracticesasyou,andfortheexactsamereasons!Wereinperfect
agreement,sokeeppreachingthetruthtoallthoseheathensoutthere!=p
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2. MiroSameksays:
July21,2012at1:29pm
TheMISRAC:2004,Rule10.6(required)says:AUsufficshallbeappliedtoallconstantsofunsigned
type.
PleasenotethatspecificallytheuppercaseUisusedinthisruleandthewholedocumentconsistently
usesonlytheuppercaseUsuffixinallexamples(andneverthelowercasesuffix).
EventhoughthereisnoruleabouttheLsuffix,theMISRAC:2004documentusesconsistentlyonly
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theuppercaseLandneverthelowercasel.WhentheUandLsuffixesarecombined,all
MISRAC:2004examplesusetheULorder.
see:MISRAC:2004GuidelinesfortheUseoftheClanguageinCriticalSystems,MISRA,October
2004,
ISBN:9780952415626paperback
ISBN:9780952415640PDF
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NigelJonessays:
July21,2012at2:22pm
Yes.HowevertheMISRAcheckersIhaveusedalltreatupperandlowercaseasequally
acceptable.Itisuncleartomefromthewordingwhetherlowercaseudoesmeettheconsortiums
intent.LookingthroughtheforumsIhaveseenMISRAspositionthatcastingisalsoacceptable.
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MiroSameksays:
July26,2012at10:13am
Theissueofcastinginnumericalconstantsisveryinterestingandimportant.Frankly,Ifind
myselfstrugglingwithMISRAcompliance,andevenmorewiththestrongtyping
complianceofPCLint.Iendedupconstantlycastingnumericalconstants.Forexample,how
doyoudefineazerovaluethatisspecificallyuint8_t?InC,thisistheuglycast(uint8_t)0,
butinC++itisevenuglierstatic_cast(0).
So,howdoyouhandlethismess?Perhapsanotherpost?
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NigelJonessays:
July26,2012at11:01am
Itisatoughissue.IngeneralmyapproachistoavoidcastingasIthink(Iknow!)it
createsmoreproblemsthanitsolves.ThuswhenImassigningconstantstoauint8_tI
simplyappendaUanddontworryaboutthelengthperse.ThereasonIdothisis
whenIinadvertentlytrytoassigntoolargeanumbertoauint8_t.Forexampleuint8_t
foo=347U.ThankfullymostcompilersandLintquiterightlycomplain.HoweverifI
useacast,uint8_tfoo=(uint8_t)347thenintoomanycasesthecompilerjustshrugs
andsaysOKandgivesmethewronganswer.ThusImoftheopinionthatthecureis
worsethanthediseaseinthiscase.
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BobPaddocksays:
July26,2012at8:02pm
ThereisalsothisadviceontheMISRABulletinBoardaboutunsignedzeros:
http://www.misra.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=1044&p=2033#p2033
Rule10.1addressesadifferentissue.Itdemands,amongotherthings,thatanexpressionwhichis
assignedtoanunsignedvariableshoulditselfbeunsigned.Thismeansthatanyconstantorconstant
expressionshoulditselfbeofunsignedtypeincludingtheconstant0.Therationalebehind
thisisthatitishelpfultomaintainconsistentsignednesswhenconstructingarithmeticexpressions,
eveniftheomissionofaUsuffixmakesnodifferencetotheresult.
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Lundinsays:
August13,2012at6:08am
InthenewMISRA2012draft,itlookslikethelsuffixwillbebanned,sinceitlookslikeaoneon
somefonts.SoitisgoodpracticetouseLifyouareconcernedaboutfutureMISRAcompliance.
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PersonallyIavoidtheuppercaseU,becauseitmakeshexliteralslookstrange,withsomecomic
potential.0xBULL,0xDULL,0xFULL
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3. Anonymoussays:
July23,2012at4:37am
OKNigel,canyouhelpmesortthisoneout?
typedefunsignedlonglongu64/*letsestablishthatwemean64bitintsirrespectiveofthecompiler*/
u64fred=(u64)123456789012
Ihaventattemptedtoworkoutwhatthestandardsays,butinmyfearandignoranceIcanseethe
compilerlookingatthedigitsandattemptingtoturnthemintoasystemsignedint(whichwillnormallty
be32bitsatmost.thenSUSEQUENTLYconvertingthattoanunsigned64bitvalue.
Clearlythatprocesswillnotgiveuswhatwewant,sinceitwillfailinthefirststage.Theonlywayit
givesuswhatwehopeisifthecastinfluencestheprocessingoftheliteral.Icanseethatwouldbethe
rightwayforittowork,butIvenoideaifitdoes.
Nowifthatsright,itrulesouttheuseofcastsinSOMEcircumstances,whichtomymindmeansitrules
themoutinALL,sinceweneedconsistency.
SOifthatmeanswehavetouseliteralswithLorLLontheend,ImnowfacedwiththeissuethatI
dontknow,acrossallcompilers,whattheymean.AnLcanmean32bitsor64or,welleven16oncome
toyC.
Iassumethatthisisobvioustoanyoneserious.IknowC99addressessomeofthisstuff,butdoesC99
includeawaytorepresentnumericliteralswhichguaranteetheirinterpretationasaparticularnumberof
bits?
DoesMISRAhaveanythinghelpfultosayaboutthisarea?
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JrgSeebohnsays:
July23,2012at11:31am
Thedraftc11standardsays:
6.4.4.1Integerconstants
5Thetypeofanintegerconstantisthefirstofthecorrespondinglistinwhichitsvaluecan
berepresented.(listisomitted)
6Ifanintegerconstantcannotberepresentedbyanytypeinitslist,itmayhavean
extendedintegertype,iftheextendedintegertypecanrepresentitsvalue.
So((uint64_t)0x1122334455667788)worksasexpectedcauseafter6.4.4.1.5thetypeof
0x1122334455667788isatleastoftypeint64_t(orextended)ifthecompilersupports64bits
andcastingfromfromint64_ttouint64_tissafe.
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Lundinsays:
August13,2012at6:13am
Ifyouusenotsuffixnortypecasts,theCcompilerwilldothis:
Doestheintegerliteralfitina(signed)int?
Ifnot,doesitfitinanunsignedint?
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Ifnot,doesitfitinasignedlong?
Ifnot,doesitfitinaunsignedlong?
Andsoon.ThisiswelldefinedevenonoldC90compilers.
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4. davidcolliersays:
July25,2012at4:57am
ThanksJrg,
WhichmakesmewonderwhywedbotherappendingULLtothethingever.
Butitdoesmeanitwontfallinaheap,andwillretainthesignificantbitsformetocastittosomething
else.
TVM
David
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Lundinsays:
August13,2012at6:27am
Assumethatintis16bitsandlong32bits.Ifyoudontuseanyliteralsuffixandwritecodelike
this:
longi=INT_MAX+1
thenyouwillgetaweirdnegativenumbereventhoughlongislargeenoughtoholdanyintresult.
ThisisbecauseINT_MAXisasignedint(definedas0x7FFFinlimits.h)and1isasignedint.
Bothoperandsareofthesametype,sonoimplicitconversionsareneeded.Theresultwillbein
typeint,whichwilloverflow,thenthatresultisstoredinsidealong.
1Uor1Lor1ULwouldhavepreventedthatbug,asitwouldhaveenforcedanimplicittype
promotionoftheotheroperand(throughbalancing,akatheusualarithmeticconversions).
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5. justinxsays:
July27,2012at10:53pm
Outofinterestwhataboutthe[U]INT[N]_Cmacros?Wouldnttheybethecorrecttoolstousewhen
declaringamanifestconstantorwhenassigninganumericalconstanttoavariablei.e.:
#defineMYCONSTANTUINT16_C(65532U)
or
uint16_tconstmyconstant=UINT16(65532U)
Thisavoidsthepitfallsofcastingandalsomeansfromoneplatformtothenexttheengineerdoesnot
havetoworryaboutthesizeofaU,L,UL,ULLetcchanging..
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EricMillersays:
August4,2012at5:52am
justinx,
IwasthinkingthesamethingasIreadthroughthecomments.
TheonlythingIdchangefromyourexampleisthatIddroptheUattheendoftheconstants.
ThetwocompilersIusemostfrequentlydifferintheirimplementationsofUINT16_C():
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#defineUINT16_C(c)c
#defineUINT16_C(x)(x##u)
SoifyousayUINT16_C(123U),thecompilermayexpanditto123Uu(withaninvalid
doubleUsuffix).
JrgsJuly23commentdescribeswhyitssafetodroptheU.
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Lundinsays:
August13,2012at6:37am
IneverusethosemacrosbutIbelievethattheywouldactuallybeincorrect,sinceaccordingtothe
standard(C117.20.4.1),theyexpandintoint_leastN_t.Soinyourcase,themacrowouldbe
equivalentto:
uint16_tconstmyconstant=(uint_least16_t)65532U
Whichdoesntsolveanything,butpotentiallycreatesbugsiftheconstantfitsinuint_least16_tbut
notinuint16_t.
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EricMillersays:
September8,2012at1:42am
TheexactwidthuintN_ttypesareoptional.Theyreonlyavailableonmachinesthatsupport
integersofwidthNwithnopadding.
Theminimumwidthuint_leastN_ttypesarerequired,butcancontainpadding.
Ifasystemsupportsuint16_t,uint_least16_twillhavethesamerepresentationasuint16_t,so
theproblemLundindescribes(constantfitsinuint_least16_tbutnotinuint16_t)is
impossiblebydefinition.
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6. kalpakdabirsays:
August29,2012at8:47am
HavenotunderstoodtheimpactofnotusingU(oru).
Withreferencetothefollowing
uint8_tsome_var=6
whatwillgetloadedinthevariablesome_var?
IfmyLHSisclearlyindicatingthatthevariableisunsignedandofthesizeof8bits,thenwhatcan
happenduetothemissingU/u?
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NigelJonessays:
August30,2012at6:36am
Inthiscase,notmuch.IthinkMISRAsconcernismorewithconstantsinexpressions.Howeverto
beconsistenttheyrequirethatallunsignedconstantsareappendedwithaU.
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7. jeroenboonensays:
November13,2012at5:52am
Wealwaysusecastsforconstants,exceptforarrayindexingandthevalue0.
Soitisalwaysclearwhatthewantedtypeis.Inthepastweusedalsouandul,butisul(unsignedlong),
whatislong?16bit,32bitor64bit
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e.g.:
Unsigned64fr=(Unsigned64)0x12345678AABBCCDD
d=(Float32)2*x+(Float32)12*y+(Float32)3
Alsoweneveruseint,long,short,inourcode,becauseitiscompilerdependent.Weuse:
typedefunsignedcharBoolean
typedefunsignedcharUnsigned8
typedefunsignedshortUnsigned16
typedefunsignedlongUnsigned32
typedefunsignedlonglongUnsigned32
IloveC,butforthistopicADAisthewaytogo
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8. ScottWhitneysays:
November13,2012at11:03am
Nigel,itappearsthatPCLintisreallypickyabouttheMISRArules,andwillcomplainaboutthelower
caseu,soIhavegotteninthepracticeofusingtheuppercaseU.Itgetsalittlemessierwhenwestart
workingwith3rdpartycodesuchasaparticularOSkernel,whichdefinesitsconstantswiththelower
caseuthenwehavetostartsuppressingwarningsthere,too,ortreattheentirekernelasifitslibrary
code.
Forexample,Micriumhas
#defineOS_ERR_NONE0u
andIhavetouse//lintesym(1960,2134)incodethatcheckstomakesurethatthereturnederrorcode
isOS_ERR_NONE.
Hopethishelpssomeoneelse!
Scott
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NigelJonessays:
November14,2012at5:29am
Thanksforthetip.
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9. Clarksays:
February2,2013at12:46pm
Somewhatarbitrarily,andforreasonsunknown,Iuseuforunsigned,butLforlong.Iguessitwas
justsomethingthatIpickedupfrommytrainingandbooks(differentbooks,differentauthors,etc.).
Kindalikethewaysomepeoplesayalls.Iguesstheythinkallmeanseverything,andtheextras
makesitallencompassing.Thatisahugepetpeeveofmine.IguesstheuppercaseLmakesitstronger,
moreallencompassing
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10. Jerrysays:
December4,2014at4:16am
0x47udoesntseemtobeofmuchuseinthefirstplace,giventhatwhiledecimalrepresentednumerical
constantsaresignedbydefault,nondecimalrepresented(i.e.octalrepresentedorhexadecimal
represented)areUNsignedbydefault.Onecaneasilyverifythatbyobservingthattheexpressions
0x80000000>0x7FFFFFFF
020000000000>017777777777
bothevaluatetoTRUE(theyclearlywouldevaluatetoFALSEifhexconstantsweresigned).Thusly,
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whiletheusuffixisusefulfordecimalintconstants,itiscompletelysuperfluousforoctalandhexones.
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NigelJonessays:
December5,2014at11:50am
Iagree.HoweverIneverputaUonahexadecimalconstantuntilIhadtowritecodethatwas
MISRAcompliant.IranthecodethroughtwoseparatecheckersandbothcomplainedabouttheU
missingonhexadecimalconstants.SincethenIdoit.
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Jerrysays:
December19,2014at8:06pm
Interestinglyenough,itactuallyturnsoutthatmyabovestatementwasincorrect(thereforeI
oweanapologyandhopenottohavemisledanyone).
Asamatteroffact,hexandoctalconstantswhichfitintothe(signedint)range(suchas
0x7FFFFFFF)areof(signedint)type.Ahexoroctalconstanthasthetype(unsignedint)
onlyifthepositivenumberitrepresentsexceedstherangeof(signedint),whichisthecase
with0x80000000.Awaytoverifytheactualtypeofanumericalconstantistotrytoassignit
oddishly(sucheastoapointertypevariablewithoutanexplicitcast),theresultingcompiler
warningwillrevealtheconstantstype.
Theconfusionwhichhasevensomearguablyautoritativesources*believehexandoctal
representedintegerconstantswerealwaysofasignedtypemaystemfromthefactthatthey
areneverinterpretedasnegativenumbersifwehaveahexoroctalconstantwhich_could_
representanegativenumber(i.e.withthemostsignificantbitset),itisstillconsidered
positive,andofunsignedtypesothatpositivevaluecanfit.
Thusly:
0x7FFFFFFFu
makessense,becausewithouttheusuffixtheconstantwouldbeoftype(signedint),while
in
ox80000000u
theusuffixissuperfluousinthattheconstantwouldbeoftype(unsignedint)withoutit
anyway.Further,wecancomeupwithanexampleuseforthesignedkeyword(whichis
sometimesassumedtobeentirelyuseless)namely,aswedonthaveasuffixtospecifya
signedtype,wecanonlydosobythemeansofanexplicitcast,soforaconstantsuchas
0x80000000tobeofstrictlysignedtypeweneedtouse
(signed)0x80000000
__
*inStephenPratasCPrimerPlus,5thed.,theanswerstothechapter3reviewquestions
claimtheconstants0xAA,0x3,012,and0x44tobeoftype(unsignedint),which,asperthe
above,theyreallyarent.
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Jerrysays:
December19,2014at8:16pm
Correctiontotheabovepost:()somearguablyautoritativesources*believehex
andoctalrepresentedintegerconstantswerealwaysofasignedtype()obviously
foranyonefollowingalong(Ithink),thatsentenceshouldsayunsignedtyperather
thansignedtype,astheformeriswhatsomesources(incorrectly)believe(asIdid
toountiljustrecently),andwhichisthewholepointofthepost.Whew.
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11. Jerrysays:
December4,2014at4:41am
Also,ifonewanttogetanalabouttypestothepointofconsidering
unsignedinti=6
incorrect,thenonewouldhavetoconsider
charc=a'
asincorrectaswell(becausecharacterconstantsarereallyoftypesignedint)andwouldhavetowrite
charc=(char)a'
instead.HonestlyIcannotsayIhaveseenthisdoneanywhere.
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