Correct Me If I 'M Wrong: Scott Thornbury
Correct Me If I 'M Wrong: Scott Thornbury
Scott Thornbury
Agree or disagree?
2 Most errors are the result of differences between the learner’s first
language and their second language (interference).
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Researchers found that “... learning
becomes better if conditions are arranged
so that students make errors.... Getting the
answer wrong is a great way to learn.”
Scientific American October 20, 2009
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“We need classes that develop the courage to
err.”
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“There is clear evidence that corrective feedback
contributes to learning”.
Ellis, R. 2008. The Study of Second Language Acquisition (2nd edn). Oxford:
Oxford University Press, p.885.
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How do you increase grammatical accuracy?
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Learner: My brother is a good cooker.
Teacher:
1. No.
2. No. My brother is a good cook.
3. Wrong noun.
4. My brother is a good cooker?
5. My brother is a good….? [with rising intonation]
6. No. Cooker is the equipment. For a person, say
cook.
7. Your brother is a good cooker?
8. Your brother is a good cook, is he?
9. I’m sorry?
10. Oh, really? What kind of things does he cook?
11. Good.
T: after they have put up their tent, what did the boys
do?
L: they cooking food.
T: no, not they cooking food, pay attention.
L: they cook their meal.
T: right, they cook their meal over an open fire.
(Tsui, 1995, cited in Seedhouse P. (2004) The Interactional
Architecture of the Language Classroom: A conversational
Perspective, Oxford: Blackwell, p. 171)
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Learner 1: On Sunday what did you do?
Learner 2: Oh, er I stayed in home.
Teacher: At home.
Learner 2: On Sunday I stayed at home and
watched the Wimbledon Final. What did
you do on Sunday?
Learner 1: On morning
Teacher: In the morning
Learner 1: In the morning I took a bus...
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1. T: Vin, have you ever been to
the movies? What’s your
favorite movie?
2. Vin: Big.
3. T: Big, OK, that’s a good
movie, that was about a little
boy inside a big man, wasn’t it?
4. Vin: Yeah, boy get
surprise all the time.
5. T: Yes, he was surprised,
wasn’t he? Usually little boys
don’t do the things that men
do, do they?
6. Vin: No, little boy no
drink.
7. T: that’s right, little boys
don’t drink.
Johnson, K. 1995. Understanding communication in second language
classrooms. Cambridge.
(The central heating boiler has just re-ignited)
Mark: oh popped on
Mother: pardon?
Mark: it popped on
Mother: it popped on?
Mark: yeh
Mother: what did?
Mark: er – fire on
Mother: the fire?
Mark: yeh … pop the. fire popped it fire
Mother: oh yes. the fire popped on didn’t it?
Mark: yeh
(Wells, 1981)
Our basic premise has long been that the child learns
some basic set of syntactic structures, moving from a
one-word phase to a two-word phase, to more
complex structures, and that eventually the child is
able to put these structures together in order to carry
on conversations with others. The premise, if we use
discourse analysis, is the converse. That is, language
learning evolves out of learning how to carry on
conversations.
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‘It seems highly probable that a correlation exists
between immersion teachers’ tendency to use
random implicit feedback and immersion students’
tendency to reach a developmental plateau in their
communicative ability.’
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Ulichny, P. (1996) Performed conversations in an ESL classroom. TESOL
Quarterly, 30, 739-64.
‘Plenty of classroom studies have shown that
teachers are able to provide various forms of
corrective feedback in ways that allow the
communicative flow to continue.’
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‘Providing feedback is not about giving rewards,
but rather providing information about the task…
To be effective, feedback needs to be clear,
purposeful, meaningful and compatible with
students’ prior knowledge, and to provide logical
connections.’
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Herazo, J.D., Davin, K.J., & Sagre, A. (2019) L2 Dynamic assessment: An activity
theory perspective. Modern Language Journal, 103/2. p. 453.
Slides available at
www.scottthornbury.com