I spy a blackbird falling from the sky

Back to MessagesMark as UnreadReport SpamDelete Has anyone found the distance from the fish to the
birds, or has anyone found a rain (with corexit) storm
Between Roo Reindeer, You, Maxim Karl Rice, Neil
Plascencia and Patricia Howard that could united these two events into a single cause -
even if time and distance are not precisely
synchronized?

Patricia Howard January 2 at 2:42pm Reply •Report

Does anybody have any idea what is truly going on in
Arkansas? Patricia Howard January 2 at 6:44pm Reply •Report
Good questions, Vince. I'm working on the locations and
http://www.abc24.com/news/local/story/Dead-Fish- distance.
Cover-20-mile-Section-of-Arkansas-
River/Gatv0kk9z0WqXlAwHOvsVw.cspx?rss=59 Here is a brand new release from CNN that says the fish
"lined the banks of a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas
River near Ozark, about 125 miles northwest of Little
Rock."

More Than 1,000 Dead Birds Fall From Ark. Sky The problem with fish is that they migrate. They could
www.foxnews.com
Wildlife officials are trying to determine what caused more than
have died anywhere along the river, floated down and
1,000 black birds to die and fall from the sky over an Arkansas finally settled in the 20-mile stretch described.
town.
Share Interestingly, it claims that it cannot be a pollutant
because it only affected this one species of drum fish.
*However, it should be noted that drum fish are bottom
feeders. Hmm ....
Neil Plascencia January 2 at 3:27pm Reply •Report
Also, at the end of this article is a small blurb saying,
I thought they just had an earthquake? "Biologists believe the bird deaths were stress-related."

Patricia Howard January 2 at 3:35pm Reply •Report Massive fish kill blankets Arkansas River
www.cnn.com
More than 500 measurable earthquakes have been Arkansas officials are investigating the death of an estimated
reported in central Arkansas since September 20, 100,000 fish in the state's northwest, but suspect disease was to
ranging in magnitude from a barely noticeable 1.8 to a blame, a state spokesman said Sunday.
very noticeable 4.0 (recorded on October 11), according Share
to the U.S. Geological Survey.

There was also a tornado in Cincinnati, Arkansas on

Friday. Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 7:00pm
They are close, and are both along an isolated road
The question is, can either of these events account for
which may indicate a bigger problem just not yet found.
thousands of dead birds and fish?
Core exit would have caused birds and fish to
hemorrhage, so that is likely not the cause. Corexit also
has a bad effect on plants.

Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 6:17pm Microwave wave emissions, especially in a one gigawatt
The tight geographic region(s) is a major clue, I suspect. bounce off the ionosphere - and just hearing this Could
The birds fell 'fast', and in a tiny region. The fish seem have caused the birds to 'stress out'.
to be a larger area, but this may be misleading, and the
time is not so clearly identified either. Below is a google instructions to get from one place to
another.
My first thought was Microwave - as in HAARP, the Driving directions from: Beebe, AR to Ozark, AR
second thought was Corexit ! This could account for the
fish kill being in a larger water shed, but initially a Any idea which came first [no, not the egg / chicken
smaller initial 'kill zone'. joke]
 Read
Suggested routes more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/02/dea
d-birds-fall-ark-sky/#ixzz19vn9Nl4p
1. 2 hours 13 mins
US-64 E and I-40 W
125 mi
2. 2 hours 30 mins
More Than 1,000 Dead Birds Fall From Arkansas Sky
I-40 W
www.foxnews.com
152 mi Wildlife officials are trying to determine what caused more than
1,000 black birds to die and fall from the sky over an Arkansas
Beebe, AR town.
1. Head southwest on E Center St toward N Main St Share
2.0 mi
2. Continue onto US-64 E
31.5 mi
3. Take the ramp onto I-40 W
Patricia Howard January 2 at 7:31pm Reply •Report
89.1 mi
4. Take exit 37 for AR-219 S Vince, it stated that the birds showed "signs of trauma",
0.3 mi but nothing more specific. Could the trauma have been
5. Turn left at N 3rd St hemorrhaging?
2.1 mi
6. Turn right at W Commercial St My other thought was gas emisions as well.
157 ft
And why just one species of BOTTOM FEEDING fish?
Ozark, AR

Common Blackbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 7:05pm The Common Blackbird, Turdus merula, is a species of true thrush.
It is also called Eurasian Blackbird (especially in North America, to
Neil : still thinking about the earthquake link also - there distinguish it from the unrelated New World blackbirds),[2] or
is an earthquake / ionosphere 'link' of a rather vaguely simply Blackbird (in areas where it is the only blackbird-like
specified nature. So did HAARP interact before, during, species). It breeds in Europe, Asia, a
or after an EQ event in order to nudge it either bigger or Share
smaller? It strikes me as a very interesting question, and
valid.

I need a Roo type analysis - he gives me encouragement Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 7:53pm
and proper vocabulary from which I can explore much
Corexit does sink - with any oil it may have brought. ...
easier ... :)
and highly toxic at bottom of river, but what about the
other critters that should have eaten the weak as they
began to die?

Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 7:21pm All in All - nice catch - interesting story !
An EQ could possibly release a gas that would kill - but
one type of fish - and multiple, or a single type of Trauma is a good catch too, it may be a catch-all for
stressed out bird? bleeding with no other apparent common aspect ... :)

But is seems that both birds and fish are Now single
species : others less at risk may follow soon - and so too
may ability to censure the story.
Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 7:25pm
This 'event' Fell a single type of bird too ?
or is black bird a more generic term ?
Patricia Howard January 2 at 8:19pm Reply •Report
"Wildlife officials are trying to determine what caused
more than 1,000 black birds to die and fall from the sky
over an Arkansas town."
Something to consider as well, this is Winter. Therefore,
many plant and insect species would not be affected
because they are nonexistent at this time of the year.
Patricia Howard January 2 at 9:21pm Reply •Report
I just have to say, it's awefully odd that the fish and the
birds all were found dead on Friday -- the SAME day that
Vincent Cataldi January 2 at 8:24pm a freak tornado kills 7 people in Arkansas.
... :)

Patricia Howard January 2 at 8:40pm Reply •Report Tornado Storm System Kills 7 in Arkansas, Missouri,
Mississippi | ThirdAge
Apparently this has happened before -- and more www.thirdage.com
blackbirds .... ??? Tornado activity in the South and Midwest caused heavy damage
to homes and businesses on New Year's Eve, killing seven and
injuring many more.
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Migratory Birds Falling From Sky –Blame HAARP, Flu,

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All around the globe birds are falling from the sky dead. Sounds
Maxim Karl Rice January 2 at 9:25pm Reply •Report
like the Alfred Hitchcock movie, “ The Birds.”Unlike the movie, "BIRDS
instead of the birds killing the humans, something is killing the
birds. Birds seem to have mastery of the air, so it is definitely
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unusual when they fall out of the sky. As Associated
Press dispatch from Shreveport LA on March 20, 1940,
relates that 'blackbirds by the hundreds dropped dead
from the sky at Barksdale Field. They cluttered the army
Patricia Howard January 2 at 8:47pm Reply •Report airbase so rthickly that its police were called out to clear
"What impacts did the study find?" the ground. A soldier said larg flocks of birds broke flight
The study concluded, "All of the significant suddenly and plopped to the ground. Some of the dead
environmental impacts associated with [building and birds were taken to the post hospital, where surgeons
operating the HAARP Observatory at Gakona] can be began autopsies.'
mitigated to an acceptable level. Some insignificant
potential impacts, such as lost habitat, socioeconomic, A better researched bird fall transpired on January 3,
and wildlife impacts, may not be mitigated." 1978, when 136 pink-footed geese fell dead out of the
clouds in the county of Norfolk, England. The track of
dead birds was 45 km. in length, oriented on a WNW-
ESE line. it was reported that '105 of the pink-feet fell
near Wicken Farm, Castleacre; two more fell into a
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garden at Meadowcroft, Washbridge, Dereham; fourteen
www.haarp.alaska.edu were found alongside the post office at Wendling;
The HF Transmitter at the HAARP Research Station is used another was found on the grounds of Gressenhall
intermittently and is primarily operated to support research Museum; ten were found by Mr. Leslie Money on a
campaigns where groups of scientists collaborate to conduct meadow midway between Heatherset Lake and
interactive ionospheric research.
Thickthorn Lake (they lay in a line about 150 meters
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long); three were found at Carleton Forehoe; and one
more at Swardeston. In addition, one bean goose ... was
picked up at Lodge Farm, Gressenhall.' Several autopsies
showed no signs of lightning or shotgun pellets. The
Neil Plascencia January 2 at 9:09pm Reply •Report lungs of some, however, contained clotted blood and
Could the fish been the only fish in the area since they other signs of internal hemorrhaging. Livers were
are bottom feeders so no other fish would be around? If ruptured in some. At the time of the fall, a tornado-
HAARP was used, doesn't water conduct electricity bearing cold front was advancing across the region. It
therefore affecting a larger area on water? was surmised that the storm carried a flock to such
great heights that their lungs hemorrhaged, causing
them to fall dead over a long strip of territory. (Journal
of Meteorology, U.K.,4:77-78, 1979)" destruction based on physics. But gas and germs always
bother me. :-)
Above quoted from Handbook of Unusual Natural They just seem like a chicken shit way to kill people.
Phenomena, compiled by William R. Corliss, 1977, 1983,
p. 244 Anyway back to AK.
Well first when I saw the Cincinnati tornado I thought of
earlier posts on the Guy earthquakes. But I looked and
they were about 100 miles apart. Of course any two
points make a straight line, but that doesn't mean
Patricia Howard January 2 at 9:28pm Reply •Report anthing. Also the evidence of the tremors in Guy beig
Also the river is dammed, which could mean that the "frac" related seemed reasonable. I still think that that is
fish died further upstream and, when the dam opened, the 'proximate cause'.
the dead fish came with it. However I got to thinking. (lord help us, he's thinking
again!)
AND the birds died before midnight which tends to make I have not had a chance to seriously check into the
me disbelieve the "stress from fireworks" explanation. connections.
Also, why wouldn't this same "stress" happen on the But my current somewhat tangled thoughts are;
Fourth of July when there are even MORE fireworks?
1)The tornado hit a town so small that it doesn't even
have a 'crossroad'. It is just a wide spot on one rural
road.
Check it on google maps. That seemed like precision
Patricia Howard January 2 at 9:33pm Reply •Report
targeting.
NICE FIND MAXIM!
"The lungs of some, however, contained clotted blood 2)The fracing will crack bedrock, little doubt about that.
and other signs of internal hemorrhaging. Livers were That is why the call it fracing.
ruptured in some. At the time of the fall, a tornado-
bearing cold front was advancing across the region." 3)The New Madrid fault area IS a country busting
proposition.
It is really about the only "natural" disaster that would
affect the whole USA (at least east of the Mississippi).
Patricia Howard January 2 at 9:36pm Reply •Report Anything local, like a mag 8 in Los Angeles would be..
well.. local. Yoy can't declare martial law nationwide
The plot thickens .... also in SOUTH AMERICA. WTF is
with a local disaster, especially when deaths are in the
right!
several dozen to a max of a few hundred.. But a mag 8
in New Madrid
En espanol ... lo siento ... :)
could kill people in Philidelphia. And everywhere in
Thousands of Birds fall from the sky in South between. The US typically has fatalities in the dozen
America...WTF. range during earthquakes that are equivelent to those in
www.youtube.com the third world that kill a hundred thousand. A New
Thousands of Birds fall from the sky in South America at the same Madrid quake in areas with NO earthquake building
time thousands fell from the skies in codes (because they have had no quakes since the tee-
Arkansas....Chemtrails,Haarp,WTF?
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pee days of 1811) could do this.
The economic effect of damage over such a large area
would be crippleing as well.
So as far as a "natural" disaster is concerned it would be
the crown jewel.
Maxim Karl Rice January 2 at 9:51pm Reply •Report If anyone wants to use HAARP for real mischif that is
Yikes........ really the only place to strike.
But it is entirely possible that the geology of the area
makes a direct action quake difficult. The area must be
'prepped'.
Ergo.. fracing (probably a Haliburton deal) in areas that
Roo Reindeer January 2 at 10:07pm Reply •Report will weaken the whole fault structure area and make it
Finally something to get my mind off that depressing more
chemtrail stuff. I started in on that post from rense.com vulnerable to HAARP action.
that Patricia put up and got totally upset :-( As we know from the GOM war days it ties in
I have no problem with a bombs, haarp, earthquakes, geographically with Chichxulub and DWH.
weather mods, and other simple weapons of mass DWH may have been part of that prepping action as
well. There could be tie ins there to these events as well. It
seems to be a place that is more deeply involved in
4)During the GOM deal last June Brian White posted on major things then the bi-coastal media is inclined to
this strange flood in Ak: notice.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/campers-killed-
arkansas-flash-flood-albert-pike- 9)I think the first thing would be to check out the
campground/story?id=10889327 geographical relationships and any ritual number
You can go back and see all the posts on RCHs page. "coincidences" first then go on from there.
They were around the middle of June. There was a lot of
info about this event haveing serious ritual number I will look into this a bit but I am more of an idea rat
overtones. Google Albert Pike for info as well. But the than a detail guy (being VERY lazy :-).
threads with Brian's comments covered most of it. Maybe someone can come up with some more details to
I am inclined to think this may connect with the recent tie these points in.
events as well.
The main problem is timing, it is hard to find out when
5)Birds falling en masse has HAARP written all over it. birds die to the minute. Or fish, or, as has been
Especially if it turns out they had been microwaved mentioned, where the fish died. The birds probably died
which should be TRIVIAL to check. Unless they are all near to where they fell (although they could have been
disposed of before anyone can do so. It is also possible moved a fair distence by high enough winds). The fish
they may have been caught up in extreme turbulance could float a long time before being noticed. So
associated with weather control work. They would not connecting them to any HAARP type ionosphere
show burns then however, but still would bear signs of signature would be problematic. Still if any sort of
trauma. It could be that it is limited to one species HAARP or seismic signature shows up NEAR that time or
because it was actually just one flock of birds, naturally place it would be suspicious.
of one species, which was in the small area affected.
Like the tornado, it may have had a small footprint. If a Always good to start the New Year on a cheery note :-D
few random birds of another species happened to be in
the same few hundred square yard area they would be ps To get back to the depressing chemtrail stuff... was
lost in the noise compared to the large number of one any of that noted nearby at the time?
type in the main flock.

6)Don't know about the fish. Again, checking for toxins

SHOULD be trivial. But will any independent agency or
group be able to do this or will they all be disposed of At Least 16 Killed in Ark. Flash Flood
before they can be analysed? It is also a stretch, but if abcnews.go.com
HAARP is being used it could induce large subsurface At least a dozen people in a remote part of Arkansas were killed
earth currents. These will travel preferentially in moist early Friday morning after flash floods swept through the Albert
Pike campground following a heavy rain over night.
areas (such as where fracing has been going on) and
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along stream beds. High ground currents could kill
bottom feeders, but have much less effect on fish higher
up. The electric field gradient would drop off rapidly with
distance from the bottom. Do electrocuted fish retain
evidence of their mode of demise? I would think so. Maxim Karl Rice January 2 at 10:22pm Reply •Report
Coroners have no problem determineing if people have The fact that the birds are being collected by hazmat
died of electrical shock in many cases. There is usually crews means that an independent autopsy might not be
some signature traits. But will anyone LOOK for such forthcoming, unless someone "bravely" collects several
things in dead fish? and gets it done outside of official circles.

7) The ritual numbers associate with the Pike flood make

me think some connection with these events may show
similar ritual signifigance. The positioning with respect to
one another in some sort of a pattern maybe. The Patricia Howard January 2 at 10:35pm Reply •Report
timing, The lon/lat of each one. Local history as with the "Most" were dead.
nameing of Pikes Park, hard to track a lot of that down
though.

8) Of course there is the

Clinton/North/Contra/CIA/NWO/ETC associated with AK.
that would be a serious curse in itself :-)
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PS the above is all an inside joke it is not dis-info on this
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topic thread.
Trust me :-)

Roo Reindeer January 2 at 11:45pm Reply •Report

Missed everthing after the post from Vincent after about Patricia Howard January 3 at 12:36am Reply •Report
5;52 PST
while I was typeing mine. I see now more timing Michael Jackson ... Ewww!
connections have turned up. If the South American
timing is the same that would sound like HAARP. You know Roo, you have a good point though. I know
Actually it would SCREAM HAARP! just enough fruit loops on Facebook to be dangerous. I'll
try to be more careful with my postings.

Apparently blackbirds don't always land on their feet like

cats do.
Patricia Howard January 2 at 11:50pm Reply •Report Of course there is still the fish... :-)
Well, nice of you to join us. Welcome back ... :)

Uhm ... yeah ... **HAARP**! ! ! Maybe the blackbirds and the fish were at war and
neither side won the battle .... ??

Of course there is still the tornado... :-)

Patricia Howard January 2 at 11:57pm Reply •Report

I have not yet managed to get the timing of that event
in South America .... working on it.
Patricia Howard January 3 at 12:46am Reply •Report
Anybody listening to Coast right now?

Roo Reindeer January 3 at 12:00am Reply •Report

Aha.. it was Perihelion Day!
Roo Reindeer January 3 at 1:10am Reply •Report
The birds, like Ircarus, flew too close to the Sun.
Of course, there is still the fish .... One group that gains if you take out the birds and fish
are the worms.
Have the been any reports of fisherman turning up
missing as well.
Just put C2C on.
Patricia Howard January 3 at 12:07am Reply •Report
Ya, right .... of course ... they just got toasted by the
sun. Where do ya find a good butterback cat when ya
need one for a nicely toasted blackbird? .... :)
Patricia Howard January 3 at 2:22am Reply •Report
BTW - no confirmation whatsoever on the South
American birds. I think that video was probably just
hype from an old story a few years ago and playing on
Roo Reindeer January 3 at 12:18am Reply •Report recent events here.
Patricia:
Elvis keeps turning up in Graceland, any sightings of
Michael Jackson in Arkansas? Any signs the birds were
"abused"?
Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 2:55am
Of course there is still the fish... :-)
Data from station MIAR (Mount Ida, Arkansas, USA)
Hmm... Funny this should all turn up shortly after you
posted such potentially dangerous secret knowledge on http://71.114.183.242:1787/seismicdata_11_2/MIAR_24
FB. Maybe more fools attempted the levitation hr.html
experiment. This is dangerous stuff you are playing with.
ASL DCC MIAR TELEMETRY DATA
71.114.183.242
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Patricia Howard January 3 at 6:03am Reply •Report

Nice link! Thanks Roo!

Roo Reindeer January 3 at 3:00am Reply •Report Diagrams are good. :)

Vincent:
What happened on Nov 2 2010? I think I have internet coma. (Maybe I should sleep at
some point.)

Patricia Howard January 3 at 4:14am Reply •Report

Okay, just have to share this possible theory: Roo Reindeer January 3 at 6:14am Reply •Report
Most of the time I am on FB I actually am asleep.
"They could have been massacred by another angry It does not seem to impact things much.
tribe of bigger fish." But when I try and eat when I am asleep that does not
work at all.
Of course, that still leaves the blackbirds. :-) Driveing while asleep is about 70/30, mostly cool, except
for the assholes blowing horns.
Pleasent dreams.

Roo Reindeer January 3 at 4:29am Reply •Report

Nightflying Klanbirds.
The "pyrotechnics" were little burning crosses. Patricia Howard January 3 at 2:27pm Reply •Report
This is Arkansas after all. Hmmm ...
Remember Pike and the Confederate Masons. A Lot of Birds and Fish Found Dead in Arkansas; 5 Other
Animal Die-Offs

Patricia Howard January 3 at 4:31am Reply •Report

ROFLMFAO!!
A Lot of Birds and Fish Found Dead in Arkansas; 5 Other
Animal Die-Offs
Ya gotta point there, Roo. *grin* www.aolnews.com
First, more than 1,000 dead birds fell out of the sky in Arkansas.
Then, an estimated 100,000 fish washed up dead on the shore of
the Arkansas River.
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Roo Reindeer January 3 at 5:59am Reply •Report
From Victoria Zasikowski.
No speculation here, it looks pretty solid. HAARP should
be able to ionize the air in a similar manner but using
Neil Plascencia January 3 at 2:28pm Reply •Report
different techniques applicable from a distence. The
result would be the same. I did not know this about the drum fish but apparently
there is a pearl like object behind there eye socket!!!!
This video is a bit repetitive but it explains it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scwgoz3L9wg&featu
re=player_embedded
Have scientists discovered how to create downpours in the
desert?
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That holy grail is a step closer after scientists employed by the
ruler of Abu Dhabi claim to have generated a series of downpours.
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(ALERT) Reason Drum Fish Die In Arkansas
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Perhaps the reason the fish and birds dying is not poison at all. cannot be smelled were in the mine and that they would be next if
Please share,post,comment. they did not get out! You see, b
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Patricia Howard January 3 at 2:51pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 3 at 3:12pm Reply •Report
Good find, Neil! I'll follow up on that one right now. The "pearl" the fisherman refers to is actually called an
otolith.
Here is another interesting article, but I'm not buying
the explanation. An otolith, (οτο-, oto-, ear + λιθος, lithos, a stone), also
called statoconium or otoconium is a structure in the
"Goodwin said he suspected that the drum fish may saccule or utricle of the inner ear, specifically in the
have experienced a population boom this summer that vestibular labyrinth. The saccule and utricle, in turn,
created more competition for food and sapped the together make the otolith organs. They are sensitive to
weaker ones of their ability to fight off disease. gravity and linear acceleration. Because of their
orientation in the head, the utricle is sensitive to a
"It's your classic boom and bust," he said. "A group of change in horizontal movement, and the saccule gives
fish will go into a population boom, and then they're information about vertical acceleration (such as when in
competing for food, so they may not be in really good an elevator).
condition. Then during a cold snap the environment
changes with the temperature, and their immune
systems are compromised and can't always fight
infection."

Bullshit. BUT what is interesting about this article is the

Otolith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
last sentence. "Authorities are warning residents near en.wikipedia.org
the river to not eat the dead fish." An otolith, (οτο-, oto-, ear + λιθος, lithos, a stone), also called
statoconium or otoconium is a structure in the saccule or utricle of
My question - WHY? the inner ear, specifically in the vestibular labyrinth. The saccule
and utricle, in turn, together make the otolith organs. They are
sensitive to gravity and line
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First Birds Fall, Now 100,000 Fish Dead in Arkansas

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Thousands of dead fish have turned up in an Arkansas river just Patricia Howard January 3 at 4:17pm Reply •Report
days after 3,000 birds mysteriously dropped dead from the sky, Okay here is what Sereda has to say:
but authorities say the deaths are not related.
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David Sereda: "Spray does not do this. This is a near
Gulf State right behind the core of the oil spill. Obviously
a methane bubble traveled to Arkansas. Methane kills
fast: the birds and the fish."
Patricia Howard January 3 at 3:00pm Reply •Report
USDA "controlled kill"?? Not sure I agree with him. Why just two particular
species?
I'm skeptical about this 'propheticseer' source - usually
just disinfo - but this is the first time I've heard of it as
being describes as a "controlled kill". How did they
"control" which species ate the poisoned seed? And why Patricia Howard January 3 at 4:25pm Reply •Report
did they only die within a one-mile range?
Good grief! Here's another theory -
More dead birds! Government is killing them on purpose!
Ever heard of "canary in a coal mine?"
www.youtube.com
Canary in a coal mine is a saying that came from a real practice.
Coal miners used to bring a canary into the coal mine so if the bird
ever croaked, it was a sign that methane or other toxic gases that
Alert - Sonic Booms - Fish kill - Birds kill - Weird Thunder
Storm It is the "coincidental" aspect here that is suspicious.
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Sooner or later the coincidences either add up in a
Alert Sonic Booms | Fish Kills, Birds fall from the sky. Civilian video
uploaded with reported accounts of sonic booms surfacing from persons mind or they don't. Some people are dense.
the Indiana region and out before birds fell from sky, weird
thunderstorms, and fish kills. 2010 thecountdown
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Patricia Howard January 3 at 6:15pm Reply •Report

:)
Patricia Howard January 3 at 4:29pm Reply •Report
I just wonder now about what more sinister plans lie
Prelim studies - birds died of "blunt trauma". behind playing with HAARP like this. God forbid this
could actually cause a methane release in the Gulf.

No poison found in birds that fell on town

www.msnbc.msn.com Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 7:53pm
Preliminary autopsies on 17 of the up to 5,000 birds that fell on Roo Reindeer - January 3 at 3:00am
this town indicate they died of blunt trauma to their organs, the
state's top veterinarian told NBC News on Monday.
Vincent: What happened on Nov 2 2010?
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I just went looking for a local EQ station to see if there
were rumblings; I find nothing current in Arkansas. That
is/was the last date that station was updated - I see
more in the lack of data than I expected to find - which
Patricia Howard January 3 at 4:51pm Reply •Report was nothing. Now I wonder Why did they stop
"Rowe noted that birds of prey and other animals, reporting? GoM ???
including dogs and cats, ate several of the dead
blackbirds and suffered no ill effects."

Can anybody comment re: effects of HAARP? Can it

Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 8:06pm
cause heart and liver damage in small species as
indicated in the above article? ROO, might HAARP cause a sonic boom?

Roo Reindeer January 3 at 5:43pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 3 at 8:07pm Reply •Report
I think direct action by HAARP would microwave them, I was wondering the same thing. Clearly from that
more or less. That could cause organ rupture I suppose. video, the residents heard "something". It's a bit
As anyone who has tried to dry a wet pet or baby in the repetitive, but worth listening all the way to the end.
micro can probably attest.
But I think it would also show other signs of toasting.

HAARP could cause a tornado like wind vortex though. Roo Reindeer January 3 at 8:13pm Reply •Report
One that might not necessarily touch down and be
noticed on the ground. That could kill the birds. Bird falls Vincent:
of this nature have been reported for a long time (frog Did you get this post;
falls too... but that is a different story :-). http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-
So natural tornados could have been the cause in the national/suspicious-acts-before-7-3-christmas-quake-
past. terrorizes-vanuatu-people

The HAARP angle here is the whole I'm sure you remember how the Bilibino data
bird/fish/tornado/earthquake/flood matrix in a small disappeared for a long time after I posted on those
area, over a short span of time. Each event can, and "little waves" creeping up the pacific and being timed
usually does, have a natural explanation. Bad weather with a big jump at Billibino?
and earthquakes have been around for a long time. This
makes it easy to debunk human causation for each You are right that the "lack of data" IS data. No doubt
event, shit happens, always has, always will. about that.
But of course that does make the interpretation difficult HAARP debunkers will then say "No way HARRP can
:-D create a sonic boom".
Which, I presume , is the point. More "true" dis-info.

On the plus side I find the old link I had to the Live I don't think HAARP can create a sonic boom in the
Seismic Server now takes me to a page that shows a classic sense. But I see no reason it could not create
large number of US only sites. This may or may not have "major" thunder. If it did this by createing a high energy
been done to divert attention from world wide events lightning bolt from the ionosphere down I would think
(although they are still available on another page) but it you would get a good one. Such a bolt might not
has the advantage of allowing much better tracking of produce as large a visual flash as a regular one. It might
what's going on here in the US. be mostly ultra-violet. It should show up on lightning
monitoring radio sets though. They use those to predict
More Roosters at work, pecking at the Owls? tornados, Then again it might be to low a frequency to
I suppose I should know but we Ibis are outside the show up in normal RF lightning detectors. But then it
loop :>) could show up as a VLF pulse. Monitors that keep track
of that might be a place to look for something about
that time.

Another way it might make a boom is heating an area of

Suspicious acts before 7.3 Christmas quake terrorizes the ionosphere causeing a rise, then cutting off the
Vanuatu people - National Human Rights | Exami power and letting it crash down. There have been
www.examiner.com suggestions that HAARP could be used as a weapon this
Vanuatu earthquake: The earthquake location map on Dec. 25 at way. But that sounds like a "big hammer" approach.
13:16 UTC time, or 8:15am EST. (USGS.gov) Only several weeks
before the 7.3 e
Suitable for city busting but not for precision targeting. I
Share don't think it is practical to do that with a narrow column
of air. Only a large area.

Last if HARRP was just being used in a tornado

generating mode of some sort then the normal process
Patricia Howard January 3 at 8:26pm Reply •Report of tornado development would be accompanied by
HOLY BUCKETS, ROO! How did I miss that story?!? normal lightning & thunder. If they just created a
Wowza! "quick" tornado that never fully developed and touched
down there still might have been a transient lightning,
thunder event but with no rain and no touch down
people would not call it thunder, Which they associate
with storms. They would, again say "sonic boom".
Roo Reindeer January 3 at 8:52pm Reply •Report
HARRP & Sonic Boom? This is why I obsess over semantics and definitions quite
Hmmm... Depends on the definition of "sonic boom". often.
(Hate to pull a Clinton, but sometimes details matter in Many debunker arguments are dependent on definitions
this stuff). that are correct. Lay people are not often precise in their
descriptions, so it is easy for TPTB to claim that what
From the standard idea of a sonic boom you have to they say they see or hear is "impossible". MSM correctly
accelerate something faster then the speed of sound in reports this and the event is forgotten.
air, then you get a trailing wake of overpressure which is
considered by most people as a sonic boom. The So I try and belabor fine points sometimes because that
characteristic of this boom is it travels. The epicenter is the only way to make an end run around the
moves with the projectile and the boom sweeps out an professional debunkers .
area where it is noticible.

However to a person standing in one spot they just here

a boom (sometimes two). The same thing will happen in
any high pressure explosion event.. you get a boom. But Patricia Howard January 3 at 9:24pm Reply •Report
it travels outward in a circle from one point. It does not We'll never get the real story even after the final
"sweep" an area. necropsy reports come back. Whatever caused the
trauma will continue to be reported as being due to
Thunder is such an event. Major thunder close by isn't lightening or hail.
really distinguisable to a casual observer from a sonic
boom. So people might say "I heard a sonic boom", I've just got to point out here though that while dead
birds were reported,
ted, strangely no hail was reported.
=============================
Then there's the fish ... :-)
And Naturally, on page two - a green river on Vancouver
Island, with anti-freeze
freeze green Swamp Gas ... :)

Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 9:30pm

There was a video about haarp posted a month or so 1000+ birds dropped dead from the sky., page 1
back stating, by the inventor, that a real danger of haarp www.abovetopsecret.com
is the upward beam ionizes the air and allows a massive Share
lightning bolt down, 100 to 1000 time a normal lightning
bolt, and it continues up to a thousand
ousand times in a
second, until an entire region of the ionosphere is
electrically discharged.
Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 9:35pm
From ATS http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread644799/p
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread646104/p g1
g1

mostly nothing we did not cover, but -

--------------------- Rumbling all day TODAY (12/28/2010)
(12/28/2 in Western
Large magnetic distortions/disturbances can occur Washington, page 1
before a strong earthquake. www.abovetopsecret.com
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What does 'Biological' and 'Epidemic' refer to...?.
...and is this related?
Is this common? Patricia Howard January 3 at 9:39pm Reply •Report
It seems 'common' is the new 'unusual' lately!
I avoid ATS like the plague for a couple of reasons.
Intentional disinfo and attached viruses.
01/02/2011 Biological Hazard USA State of Arkansas
Beebe
I am curious about
bout the difference between 'Biological'
and 'Epidemic' hazards though. I couldn't get that link to
23/12/2010 Epidemic Hazard USA State of Arkansas
work.
Hope

Just thought I'd check!

www.hisz.rsoe.hu... Patricia Howard January 3 at 9:44pm Reply •Report

Here's a new one:
------------------------------------- GILBERTSVILLE, Ky
Story Created: Jan 3, 2011
Just read in the news that more than 1000 birds just
dropped dead. First thing that popped in my head was Occurred "several days ago" but just being reported
HAARP. today.
Although the news highlighted "Hail" or lightning, it also
mentioned
tioned that these birds went through a "physical
trauma" that may be the cause of their death.

Bird smuggler dropped them off a plane?

Maybe they were already dead and the physical trauma Woman reports dozens of dead birds in her yard
was from hitting the ground. www.wpsdlocal6.com
Seemingly dropping from the sky, a local woman reports finding
We live in strange times. dozens of dead blackbirds in her front yard.
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www.abc.net.au
 Event: Biological Hazard
Location: USA State of Arkansas Beebe

Patricia Howard January 3 at 9:50pm Reply •Report Situation:

Vince, you and I both know we've got red-winged Arkansas game officials hope testing scheduled to begin
blackbirds all over the Midwest and "Winter stress" Monday will solve the mystery of why up to 5,000 birds
doesn't phase them a bit here, so I don't know why they fell from the sky just before midnight New Year's Eve.
would be any less tolerant of cold conditions in the The birds -- most of which were dead -- were red-
South. winged blackbirds and starlings, and they were found
within a one-mile area of Beebe, about 40 miles
northeast of Little Rock, the Arkansas Game and Fish
Commission said. Birds fell over about a one-mile area,
the commission said in a statement. As of Saturday,
Patricia Howard January 3 at 9:51pm Reply •Report between 4,000 and 5,000 birds had been found dead,
BTW - International Falls, MN makes the books every said Keith Stephens with the commission. "Shortly after I
year for record low temps. arrived, there were still birds falling from the sky," said
commission wildlife officer Robby King in the statement.
He said he collected about 65 dead birds. The
commission said it flew over the area to gauge the
scope of the event, and no birds were found outside of
Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 9:53pm the initial one-mile area. Karen Rowe, an ornithologist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBhYN738YU for the commission, said the incident is not that unusual
and is often caused by a lightning strike or high-altitude
hail. A strong storm system moved through the state
earlier in the day Friday.

"It's important to understand that a sick bird can't fly. So

whatever happened to these birds happened very
WARNING More that 1000 birds fall dead from Sky in quickly," Rowe told CNN Radio on Sunday. "Something
Arkansas 12-31-2010 New Years Eve must have caused these birds to flush out of the trees at
www.youtube.com night, where they're normally just roosting and staying
Look at the following web service for yourself folks. Something is
killing mass amounts of birds and fish worldwide. This is by no
in the treetops ... and then something got them out of
means a rare event for the past year. Something is happening. In the air and caused their death and then they fell to
the military Parakeets are used as early warning system to detect earth," Rowe added. Officials also speculated that
chemical attacks. The following copy fireworks shot by New Year's revelers in the area might
Share have caused severe stress in the birds. Rowe said
Sunday there was evidence that large fireworks may
have played a role. "Initial examinations of a few of the
dead birds showed trauma. Whether or not this trauma
Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 9:55pm was from the force of hitting the ground when they fell
or from something that contacted them in the air, we
Updated 100000 Fish More than 5000 birds fall dead don't know," Rowe said. The dead birds will be sent for
from Sky in Arkansas 12-31-2010 New Years
testing to labs at the Arkansas Livestock and Poultry
Commission and the National Wildlife Health Center in
It is bigger, and now red winged black birds - is this Wisconsin. The necropsies will begin Monday, Stephens
new? said, and the findings should be available sometime this
week. The city of Beebe has hired U.S. Environmental
Services to begin the cleanup and dispose of the dead
birds, the commission said. The firm's workers will go
Vincent Cataldi January 3 at 10:01pm door-to-door and pick up birds still in yards and on
rooftops.
Situation Update No. 2

Posted:2011-01-02, 06:06:29 [UTC]

Ref.no.: BH-20110102-29038-USA Patricia Howard January 3 at 10:05pm Reply •Report

Vince, It has always been blackbirds -- red-winged
Situation Update No. 2
blackbirds fall under a broader term of blackbirds.
On 2011-01-03 at 03:59:16 [UTC]
BUT, the above KY link I provided also lists "some" Gotcha, makes sense. Thank you, Roo.
common grackles and European starlings which are NOT
considered blackbirds. BTW, I have been electrocuted before. It's not a
pleasant experience. It also could explain a few things ...
:)

Roo Reindeer January 3 at 10:21pm Reply •Report

Yeah that HAARP SuperBolt idea is another distinct
possibility. But it comes in on the same scale as a city Patricia Howard January 3 at 10:43pm Reply •Report
buster. That kind of a bolt would be noticed big time. "God is cruel. Sometimes he makes you live." - Stephen
But something intermediate between "normal" and King
"super" could be done. Maybe even zap the fish too
based on the ground currents I mentioned. it would still
leave a big tell tale RF signature someplace though. If it
produces a big VLF or ULF pulse it might show up on
monitors quite a distence away. Patricia Howard January 3 at 10:46pm Reply •Report
Brand spankin' new ....
I

Patricia Howard January 3 at 10:26pm Reply •Report

This might be a dumb question ... but ... if a current birds_Many Sick Birds Still In Arkansas City Where
zapped the fish, wouldn't there be some sign of ground Thousands Died. nibiru
www.youtube.com
scorching or "something" near the area?
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Patricia Howard January 3 at 10:51pm Reply •Report
5000 barrels a day, 15,000 bbl a day, 50,000 bbl a
Now LA -
day.....
LABARRE, La. - Around 500 dead blackbirds and
Hundreds of birds, 1000 birds, 5000 birds.....
starlings have been found in Pointe Coupee Parish,
I spy a pattern.
according to state wildlife officials.
Who is in charge of the counting here?

Roo Reindeer January 3 at 10:35pm Reply •Report

Hundreds of dead blackbirds found near New Roads |
Patricia:
WBRZ News 2 Louisiana : Baton Rouge, LA |
No an induced current would follow the water paths www.wbrz.com
underground. LABARRE, La. - Around 500 dead blackbirds and starlings have
There need be no actual lightning strike. If you stand been found in Pointe Coupee Parish, according to state wildlife
under a long metal wire like an old clothsline line it is officials. The birds were spotted lying in roads and ditches near
possible to be electrocuted by an induced current from Labarre Elementary School. The community is between Morganza
and New Roads on Highway 10.
passing overhead clouds, But there would be no actual
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lightning strike to the wires. Rare but possible. A very
large mirror current in the ground caused by an
ionospheric disturbance could kill without obvious
scorching action. It is a very complex situation
electrically, not too well studied in a realistic manner. Roo Reindeer January 3 at 11:20pm Reply •Report
I have been knocked out by electrical shock four times.
twice by high voltage RF amplifier power supplies. Twice
by capacitor discharges. I prefer the capacitors you don't
Patricia Howard January 3 at 10:43pm Reply •Report know it happened until (if) you wake up.
I also did some experiments on myself as a kid with a
current limited power supply to see what it felt like as
current approaches the danger point slowly. (The
cooked frog deal). I read that 100 to 300 milliamps at
60Hz would cause heart fibulation under normal
conditions. So I set up a power supply for 30 milliamps Roo Reindeer January 3 at 11:27pm Reply •Report
max possible current then used a foot pedel to control That post has more spelling mistakes then I have seen
the current while holding on to electrodes between my in a month.
thumbs and index finger. I think it may be a flashback from those shocking
when you go up slow you don't get the "shock". But the episodes.
muscles freeze slowly. First you can't open the thumb Or incipient internet coma... ZZzzz____....
and finger, but you can shake the wrist and let go. then
the wrist seizes but you can still pull back with the elbow
and break free. it goes to the shoulders but you can still
back up on your feet and break the circuit. At that point
..30 mA chest tightening and difficulty breathing is a Patricia Howard January 3 at 11:58pm Reply •Report
good indication to quit that nonsense!! Hee, hee! Internet coma strikes again ... :)
But it verified to me the 100-300 mA number is probably
right. I try not to make it a habit of playing with high voltage
This is actually a good thing to kinow if you play around like "some" people.
high voltage power supply equipment. Such devices
usually have a well defined short circuit current and if it I also own a taser but haven't felt the need to play with
is under 100 mA it can kick your ass but probably won't that either.
kill. The two case where i got zapped by power supplies
it was in that range. But of course when it wackes full So I suppose the electroshock therapy didn't even phase
tilt it is way different then the slow frog method. Flying you then, eh Roo?
across the room automatically breaks the circuit ;-)
Capacitor discharges can kill easily by just short
circuiting the brain without leaving a burn, similar to the
induced current situation I discussed. VERY BAD. But
you don't feel it unlike the standard "zapper" shock. Roo Reindeer January 4 at 12:15am Reply •Report
then there are "voodoo' shocks like tasers. they are Bring it on ..... ϟϟϟϟ --(:>P ϟϟϟϟ
based on almost everyones morbid fear of electricity.
They do "shock" and everyone thinks it is going to kill
them so they collapse. Like sirious beleife in a voodoo
curse, if you think it can kill you it will.
But if you KNOW a taser can't do that you can deal with Patricia Howard January 4 at 12:18am Reply •Report
it. Dust-outs routinely handle multiple tasers bescause lmao
they just don't feel it. A sure sign it is a psychological I like ^^that^^.
weapon, not a physical one. of course if you have bad
heart or other such problem this will increase the
subconsious panic effect. So they can kill, but very
indirectly. I had a rdneck boss oncw who brought this
Patricia Howard January 4 at 12:49am Reply •Report
tase shock level baton to work one day. he was bragging
how good it would work on one of "those" people if he Were the red-winged blackbirds so depressed by the
had a chance to use it. economy they decided to commit collective suicide in
I asked him to show me how it worked. he pushed the protest?
button and got a good 2 inch spark off the end. Two
exposed wires ran up the side of the baton to make it
"impossible" to grab it and take it away the holder. If
you grabed it you got full voltage. He thought that was
Arkansas’Birds Dead: Killed by HAARP’ s Death Ray? |
so cool. I asked him to fire it up again, the reached out Death and Taxes
and rapped my heand around it. He freaked when i www.deathandtaxesmag.com
managed to hold on. When I reached out and grabbed Were the red-winged blackbirds so depressed by the economy
his neck with my other hand the shock put him on his they decided to commit collective suicide in protest? Or is
knees squealing like a you no what. government bird testing to blame. You decide.
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Voodoo. later I got him to realize that and after a few
almost pants wetting tries he realized it was worthless
without the fear factor.

Patricia Howard January 4 at 12:54am Reply •Report

Translation for the attached article: the fisherman. We can not let that happen ", says
A survey conducted by the Federation of Fishermen's Ferreira.
Colony of Paraná, Paranaguá on the coast of the state,
indicates that at least 100 tons of fish (sardine, croaker
and catfish) have turned up dead since last Thursday off
the coast of Parana.
Mortandade misteriosa de peixes no litoral - Paraná-
Online - Paranaense como você
On Sunday, representatives from the Environmental www.parana-online.com.br
Institute of Paraná (IAP), the Secretary of State for the Levantamento feito pela Federação das Colônias de Pescadores do
Environment and Water Resources (SEMA), took Paraná, em Paranaguá, no litoral do Estado, aponta que pelo
samples to verify the reason for the deaths. The report menos 100 toneladas de peixes (sardinha, bagre e corvina) já
will be released today. apareceram mortas desde quinta-feira passada no litoral
paranaense.
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The president of the Federation of Fishermen's Colony of
Parana, Edmir Manoel Ferreira, reports that between
Paranaguá and Guaraqueçaba at least 2,800 fishermen
depend on the daily seafood.
Neil Plascencia January 4 at 1:05am Reply •Report
"On Thursday we began to realize very dead fish. Only First Arkansas now South America
one community came to bury 15 tons. We are
experiencing a very sad situation on the coast, "reports. http://www.activistpost.com/2011/01/thousands-of-
birds-fall-dead-in-south.html
Apart from Paranagua, Ferreira said the dead fish are Activist Post: THOUSANDS of Birds Fall Dead in SOUTH
starting to appear in other coastal towns. "The dead fish America TOO! (VIDEO)
are going to Antonina, and Guaraqueçaba Pontal do www.activistpost.com
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Paraná. We need an urgent solution to this, "he warns.

Captain Edson Oliveira Avila, regional coordinator of Civil

Defense in the Paraná region, believes there are three
hypotheses for the death of fish. "We will wait to see Neil Plascencia January 4 at 1:08am Reply •Report
what happened, but speculations suggest that fish may
I just saw an episode of Fringe from the 2nd season that
have died due to an environmental imbalance, dropping
was about a German scientist who was able to make bio
a fishing boat or leakage of chemicals," he says.
weapons that could target specific traits in people like
brown eyes or blonde hair, or specific DNA of 1
Through his press office, the city of Paranagua said the
individual so only they are effected. Maybe they have
sale of seafood is a precaution, temporarily suspended in
created this and can target animals and fish???
the region.

"It is not forbidden, but we have oriented people do not

purchase or consume these products to avoid any
problems. There is no indication that someone has gone Patricia Howard January 4 at 1:22am Reply •Report
bad, "said Avila. The South American story is old. They're just tacking it
on now to pump up the story of the real event in
The issue was discussed yesterday in a meeting Arkansas.
involving the city of Paranaguá, IAP, Brazilian Institute
of Environment and Natural Resources (IBAMA) and the
Civil Defense of Parana.

Reportedly, the IAP said it will only give a ruling today, Patricia Howard January 4 at 1:31am Reply •Report
after the result of the award. The samples were sent to This one ties in KY and LA as well.
the Centre for Marine Studies (CEM), Universidade
Federal do Paraná (UFPR). Now I'm frankly at a loss ....

Income

The whole situation worries the fishing community of

coastal Paraná. "I urge the authorities to look for these More Dead Birds Found In Kentucky Identical To Birds in
workers from the sea. Not just in Paranagua, but Arkansas - Media Downplays Find - Related In
throughout our state. When a disaster such sufferers is uservideos.smashits.com
In Arkansas there has been close to 500 earthquakes since
September 20th, massive fish kills and thousands of dead birds.
Today a women found more dead birds this time in Kentucky.
Chemtrails? Scalar Technology? Woman Reports Dozens of Dead
birds In Her Yardhttp://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Wo Neil Plascencia January 4 at 11:26am Reply •Report
Share This story about South America is apparently recent, the
dates are set as day/month format

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Neil Plascencia January 4 at 2:37am Reply •Report =en&ie=UTF-
8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%
When was the South America Story? 2Fwww.parana-
online.com.br%2Feditoria%2Fcidades%2Fnews%2F502
434%2F%3Fnoticia%3DMORTANDADE%2BMISTERIOSA
%2BDE%2BPEIXES%2BNO%2BLITORAL&act=url
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translate.google.com
There are several sites claiming it to be recent. Share

Patricia Howard January 4 at 2:45am Reply •Report Roo Reindeer January 4 at 1:04pm Reply •Report
Honestly, I can't find anything that is legit on South No idea if this is legit. But it keeps the pot boiling.
America. It's all Youtubes from "propheticseer" -
someone who has been making all kinds of disinfo
videos. I can't find anything recent from any news
agency -- no articles -- nothing. I saw some old stories 10,000s of Birds found dead in Manitoba | Before It's
from 2007 that they just sort of tacked on to the News
Arkasas story to make it an even BIGGER deal than it beforeitsnews.com
Officials from Health Canada are scrambling to deal with the
already is. But maybe someone can correct me?
sudden death of 10's of thousands of wild birds somewhere in the
province. Officials dodged local reporters who were removed from
outside the Level-4 Canada Science center.
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Patricia Howard January 4 at 2:58am Reply •Report

Okay, here's what someone else on another page said:

"Arkansas has had over 500 earthquakes this year....last Patricia Howard January 4 at 1:28pm Reply •Report
year 20 some .....they are drilling for Natural gas Neil: Yes, the Paranaguá story is recent and is the same
there....the people who are fighting it believe that the one I posted above with translation. However, it involves
earthquakes are due to how they drill...they frack the sardines, croaker and catfish. I am more inclined to
earth ...there is a lot of methane released into the air believe that this is due to pollution or poisoning. But I
and water they believe...they are fighting hard there just could be wrong.
as many others around the world it could contaminate
out water supply ...NY has a moratorium till may..thank Roo: I'm not totally discounting the Manitoba story, but
god Pittsburgh voted for a Ban I think the first in the I have yet to find any other sources confirming this. I
world... T bone Pickens has been promoting for years will look into it more. However, "beforeitsnews.com"
...and is heavily invested in the water purification tends to publish a lot of sensational stories intended to
business as they say follow the money...I wish those pique interest. But I could be wrong.
people would get their heads out of the clouds and
really look at what is going on so that we can use all
that power of intention to create a clean environment
for the Mother Goddess herself ...Miss Mother Nature
!...." Roo Reindeer January 4 at 1:41pm Reply •Report
Possibly not true?
Maybe I took the Zzyzx offramp on Al Gore's
superhighway.
Or maybe it was MI5.
Patricia Howard January 4 at 3:06am Reply •Report If this continues I may become a cynic.
But ^^THAT^^ still doesn't account for the birds.
Patricia Howard January 4 at 2:14pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 4 at 4:12pm Reply •Report
Not sure what to make of this one .... His expertise was in chemical and biological warfare.

Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test

Causes Mass Death
www.youtube.com
EUTimes.net A shocking report prepared for Prime Minister Putin
by the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) states that Searching for Answers - Fox News Video - FoxNews.com
one of the United States top experts in biological and chemical video.foxnews.com
weapons was brutally murdered after he threatened to expose a Investigation continues in tragic death of former Bush aide John
US Military test of poison gas that kill Wheeler
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Neil Plascencia January 4 at 3:08pm Reply •Report Roo Reindeer January 4 at 4:27pm Reply •Report
It's in the same voice as the Silver Manipulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene
video's!!!!!!! Same person producing both?????? Phosgene (HSG 106, 1998)
www.inchem.org
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Where's the "official" news on this story? Someone
knows too much, where could they have gotten this
info????

Patricia Howard January 4 at 4:32pm Reply •Report

"Their damage disrupts the blood-air barrier, causing
Patricia Howard January 4 at 3:18pm Reply •Report suffocation."
I'm not sure, Neil.

Something else that I think is important to point out -

from other official necropsy reports: Patricia Howard January 4 at 5:13pm Reply •Report
Thought this was worth sharing. Something to think
The blood clots removed from the birds contained "more about ...
than half of the birds' blood supply" and there was
significant trauma to the heart and liver.

I could see this happening if they were falling from outer

space, but falling from a roost as suggested, I do not
believe this type of damage could occur. But I could be
wrong. Chemtrails and the Gulf of Mexico
www.youtube.com
Chemtrailshttp://www.petitiononline.com/t401/petition.htmlhttp://
educate-
yourself.org/ct/http://downloads.climatescience.gov/sap/sap2-
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all.pdfhttp://anitabeggs.com/?p=761 Chemtrails
Great points in this video! Patentshttp://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=9344NOAA
SUBSEA SURVEY AT BILOXI DOME ht
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Dead Birds! Was it fireworks or a scalar weapon? Roo Reindeer January 4 at 5:16pm Reply •Report
www.youtube.com
As many as 4500 dead birds fell from the sky in Arkansas on New That is a polite way of saying the hydrochloric acid
Year's Eve. This is not the first time such a thing has happened. formed when the phosgene reacts with water in the
links coming lungs causes them to dissolve. They fill with blood as
Share they decompose and you drown in it.
An early sign you might be in trouble is a nosebleed as I cannot attest to the accuracy of this info, but just
the blood vessels in your nose start to leak. I know this thought I'd share.
first hand from useing old aerosol cans with freon as a
propellent as flame throwers as a kid. The wiki article Scalar Wars
mentioned refrigeration technicians exposed to this. The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics
They used to get nosebleeds too. As did welders Scalar Wars The Brave New World of Scalar
exposed by the process also mentioned in the wiki. Electromagnetics
www.prahlad.org
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In most cases I would think that the extreme chokeing
brought on by this could lead to coughing hard enough
to rupture organs. That occurred with chlorine gas
poisoning in WWI as well. Birds are mechanically fragile.
The trauma of chocking could easily rupture other Roo Reindeer January 4 at 7:27pm Reply •Report
organs. RE: The chemtrails video.
Well he didn't say much about chemtrails.
Quoting again. As to the rest :
"In view of the extremely short half-life (0.026 seconds) The compass stuff is wrong. There is always a deviation
in aqueous from "true" north almost everywhere. This is normal. It
solutions, and the penetration into the tissues of the has been known for 400+ years. It slowly has changed
respiratory over the centuries as the magnetic poles wander.
tract by phosgene gas, only minimal amounts of http://www.compassdude.com/compass-
phosgene are declination.shtml
distributed in the body and no significant retention of
phosgene in The sunset time is based on time zone average and will
the body is possible. The hydrolytic products of vary by a much as an hour depending on where you are
phosgene, in the time zone. You have to know your exact position
hydrochloric acid and carbon dioxide, are disposed by to determine the exact time of sunset or sunrise. The
the body through normal physiological processes." earth is not wobbling on a day to day basis. It may tilt
"Damage to plants and aquatic organisms could occur in one of these days but it is not moving now. Change in
areas where accidental release of phosgene has sunset/rise times are very large from day to day near
occurred, owing to the rapid release of hydrochloric the perihelion as that is when the earth moves fastest in
acid." it's orbit. They have not changed in millenia. This day to
day rate of change has not changed in millenia also. But
So they won't be finding any residue in the birds and it is latitude dependent.
dogs or cats that eat them will probaably show no
symptoms or just minor illness if the bird is freshly dead. On the other hand:
The gulf spill, New Madrid tie in may indeed be true. I
was looking into that last year.
http://www.greatdreams.com/madrid.htm
Roo Reindeer January 4 at 5:19pm Reply •Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone
Neil: There is most likely a deep series of geological
I think that "voice" is a synthesized voice used to connections to the gulf. The gulf was formed by the shift
convert text to speech. I have heard it before on and rotation of the plates causing the north amd south
computers. Someone just used it to provide a sound America to "rotate" apart. The New Madrid fault is a "Y"
track from a written report. shaped rift. One leg points down toward the gulf. That
one is stressed by the opening gulf and a mess of
broken up geology lies in between

Patricia Howard January 4 at 5:27pm Reply •Report This shows the extent of underlying gulf geology
connection as far as southern AK.
Wow! So no trace will be found in the necropsy reports.
http://www.aapg.org/explorer/geophysical_corner/2000/
gpc10.cfm
Roo, what do you think of the Chemtrails video link
Click on the figures on the left.
above?
This one shows how the NM rift leg reaches right down
to the point where the underlying geology of the gulf
begins. The various deep strata are cconnected even
Patricia Howard January 4 at 6:40pm Reply •Report though the top soil and accumulated sedimenta of 10s
of millions of years coveres up the connection on the
surface.
http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotI
D=328 Vincent Cataldi January 4 at 9:04pm
Roo :
This "Y" shaped split in north America connects to the
gulf basin and the gulf basin it self is very chaotic If HAARP were viewed as a big HAM radio with a omni-
geologically as it was formed by a similar split that has directional antenna array which pulse to induce
widened far more then the "failed" rift or split in N 'fluctuates' into the ionospheres' electromagnetic
America. So the whole thing does connect. dancing flux-gradient (with very little time to react) -
The buildup of pressure that RCH was hypothesizsing in and the initial HAARP pulse then continues to bounce
the gulf due to leakage from very deep down (and I back to Earth and back up again - continuously. Also
think he was right on that point) could well be begins to propagate in a more multi-directional manner.
migrateing north. Taking pressure off the gulf sea floor Thus, the initial pulse was directed as required for the
in the short run. But shifting the stress north. objective, but the consequences 'play out' with with a
http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/2010/12 quickly increasing lack of prediction - also interact with
/01/the-gulf-of-mexico-is-dying/ dynamic solar wind that is not predictable.

So, with the Sun as the source of the 'driven' element,

Magnetic Declination
the HAARP tweaking, by adding parasitic elements of the
www.compassdude.com virtual array into the ionosphere, would add little ripples
Learn about magnetic declination effecting compass directions on the seething flux, causing waves and troughs
Share (dipoles) - troughs reach down toward the Earth,
allowing for an artificial lightning strike potential, only
bigger than normal - all this likely with unintended
consequences - just 'acceptable' causalities. (Now we
should watch for the longer term human health in these
Vincent Cataldi January 4 at 7:53pm
areas, no?)
Crap - jump out of the group for a day to fix the
computer - and wow, so much to read ! Did I hear a This would likely produce an ever expanding area, and
blurb on C2C last night that the birds had "liquefied" the square of the distance would reduce the intensity of
organs - as though burst from a microwave oven - the energy that may have killed birds : still, fish are well
haarp, or hemorrhagic fever - corexit. grounded and are they not well protected from
microwave, natural or man made?
All in all - the 'tiny' affected area surely got bigger - or
the story is so worrisome that there is a lot of As in Freak Waves on the ocean, this dancing flux-
engineered disInfo. gradient, can likely create 'freak waves' as in the oceans
- but in the magnetosphere of Earth. I also think of the
solar atmosphere - a plasma fire of gradient flux
dancing, in a highly complex and interconnected manner
Patricia Howard January 4 at 7:57pm Reply •Report - and this IS connected to the Earths poles, reconnecting
five times an hour.
Roo, thank you so much for your thoughtful feedback!
Has anyone seen what the Sun did - anything "solar"
So if I understand correctly, fracking caused by the New that HAARP may have been used against - to mitigate -
Madrid fault could be releasing pockets of phosgene from the solar wind ?
which could possibly be killing the fish?
Scalar is an idea that would kill fish and birds, but well
I'm now seeing reports of dead fish in Arkansas, insulated from our ability to research ! Is there a nearby
Kentucky, Louisianna and Maryland. The first three seem target of military or symbolic importance - I thought of
to be likely connected, but Maryland does not. And the the Georgia Guide Stones for example - an 11 hour
Maryland report I just read was an AOL article, not some drive.
Youtube that somebody made.
The other idea that was stated somewhere above, is the
Then there's the birds ... electromagnetic anomalies the precede large earth
quakes. May also include the 'input' energy needed to
Good golly, I don't know what to make of all this! induce a future earth quake - back to HAARP again.
 Oh well.... fortuneately I am a well known cynic so I
expect this :-D

Patricia Howard January 4 at 9:28pm Reply •Report

I'm sorry to keep throwing videos in here guys, but they
just keep coming. This is a quick one though. Roo Reindeer January 4 at 9:58pm Reply •Report
Yes Vincent:
Chesapeake Bay, MD 1-4-11
The idea of a HAARP effect having peaks and troughs is
very good.
The way to see that is to plot out these kills on a
globe,not a map, which is ALWAYS misleading, and see
if there is any symmetry to them. Of course there may
be killoffs in sparsely inhabited ares that would not show
up in the media. Still a circular ripple pattern would sure
vvvvv_More Fish washing up in Chesapeake Bay
MD_04_01_2011.mp4 be evidence.
www.youtube.com
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ground. They could kill fish but leave no trace on dry
land critters. The HAARP pulses that induce the
ionosphere activity could kill the birds at altitude but
again have no effect on the ground. So it is one thing
Roo Reindeer January 4 at 9:32pm Reply •Report
that might connect fish and birds.
Ah.. No I think you got confused, not difficult here :-)
No I don't think it is phosgene from the ground. It will Your ripple in the spherical pond would explain the large
degrade very qiuickly in the presence of water. The guy distence between events. The kills would occur where
who mentioned the phosgene was talking about the Air the waves interact as they cross. We talked about that
Force releasing it. The other guy was talking about before, although not in relation to this specific sort of
methane from the ground migrateing up from the gulf. thing. But when you have two beams that are harmless
Which I don't think would kill birds in a tight area. It is by themselves they can kill where the constructivly
heavier then air and settles in pockets, it doesn't tend to intersect. That is the whole premise of interferometry
go up. weapons.
Finding the pattern in all the kills and the timimg could
The phosgene doesn't explain the problem all over. It pin that down pretty solid and demonstrate a
was also a Russian report :-D deterministic connection between them regardless of the
Dis-info sometimes has a core to it. Our rip off of gas details of the weapon. But to do that requires data on a
from Iraq may be true. But I don't think it is the cause lot of kills. Place AND Time. Not easy.
here.
The methane and other Gulf tie ins to New Madrid are
based on reasonable evidence in the geology. But again
I don't think it is methane here and now that is the
problem. Roo Reindeer January 4 at 10:05pm Reply •Report
Vincent:
I think it is the Gulf- drilling/NewMadrid-fracking that will As far as the Sun here is another post from Patricia
be a future problem. The PTB have a vested interest in a about that.
NM 9.0+ and it would make sense to utilize GOM/NM
geological instabilities to augment one another while
banging on the area with HAARP.

Maybe they are killing birds and fish all around with
poison or some other method as a decoy. Something
else big might be happening under the radar now. Volcano / Earthquake Watch Jan 5-6-7, 2011
www.youtube.com
We peons have a hard time sorting these things out Significant coronal holes indicate the potential for one or two 7.2+
Magnitude earthquakes are possible during this watch period. First
because we don't make a living at solving the problems area time frame Jan 4-5 sits 27-29 Degrees North Latitude, and
like the people who cause the problems. We also have presents a potential for a 6.5+ magnitude earthquake. Areas at
trouble getting data as one stage trick after another risk are : Bonin Islands Japan Regi
takes center stage in the media and on the web. Share
Nothing gets pinned down before the info dries up.
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Okay guys,

Patricia Howard January 5 at 1:02am Reply •Report 4:25 long

Anybody listening to Coast? This one sums up exactly how many states are now
involved as well as the species. I've been keeping track
I could swear I just heard Dr. Michio Kaku say that it of which stories can be confirmed as current, and this
was a mass suicide. (??) sums it all up.

Well ... I should say, I can confirm all but one account,
and if you're paying attention, you'll know exactly which
one I cannot confirm ... :) lol
Neil Plascencia January 5 at 1:41am Reply •Report
Earthquake in the UK!!! FISH DYING IN OTHER STATES ( FLORIDA, MARYLAND )
NEW ZEALAND CANADA BRAZIL
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e_Of_3.6_In_North_Of_England%2C_Centred_Northwes Vincent Cataldi January 5 at 3:44am
t_Of_Ripon_In_North_Yorkshire Roo:

OK - had to see if I was looking goofy, at this - so, now

lets add your internal rotation that differs with the crust
rotation. I am using the tetrahedron pair inverted : how
fast is the theoretical 'corner' of the systems at 19.47
Earthquake Of 3.6 In North Of England, Centred Northwest degrees pass under a spot of land : can the sun induce a
Of Ripon In North Yorkshire | UK News | Sky current flow internally which might also interact with this
news.sky.com ion dance inner inductive flow / ionosphere : is haarp
A magnitude 3.6 earthquake has hit northern England, the second tweaking up, and changing what is below as well, and
tremor in the area in two weeks. the space between them is a kill zone ... sometimes with
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a Blast from the sun ?

I know, get some sleep, right?

Neil Plascencia January 5 at 1:42am Reply •Report

Magnitude 3.7
Date-Time Monday, January 03, 2011 at 21:03:14 UTC Patricia Howard January 5 at 4:03am Reply •Report
Monday, January 03, 2011 at 09:03:14 PM at epicenter
Sweden confirmed
Jan. 5, 2011
Location 53.767°N, 1.508°W
Between 50 and 100 dead birds.
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM
Distances NEAR Leeds, England, UK
45 km (30 miles) N of Sheffield, England, UK
55 km (35 miles) ENE of Manchester, England, UK
270 km (165 miles) NNW of LONDON, United Kingdom Dead birds fall from sky in central Sweden - The Local
www.thelocal.se
Location Uncertainty Error estimate not available Dead birds have fallen from the sky in central Sweden, echoing a
number of unexplained incidents earlier this week across the
Parameters NST= 3, Nph= 3, Dmin=115.5 km, Rmss=0 southern US.
sec, Gp=205°, Share
M-type=local magnitude (ML), Version=5
Source CEA Lab. de Détection et de Géophysique,
Bruyères-le-Châtel, France

Vincent Cataldi January 5 at 4:26am

MAP 3.0 2011/01/04 18:31:36 35.547 -97.253 7.5 orientation in the head, the utricle is sensitive to a
OKLAHOMA change in horizontal movement, and the saccule gives
information about vertical acceleration (such as when in
MAP 2.8 2011/01/01 18:52:01 35.840 -96.925 5.0 an elevator).
OKLAHOMA
Does anybody remember the story recently of the
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Q dolphins that beached themselves because they were
uakes/quakes_all.php deaf from the Navy sonar?

Could sound waves possibly have caused this?

Latest Earthquakes in the World - Past 7 days

earthquake.usgs.gov
USGS Earthquake Hazards Program, responsible for monitoring,
Patricia Howard January 5 at 5:09am Reply •Report
reporting, and researching earthquakes and earthquake hazards
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Roo Reindeer January 5 at 5:00am Reply •Report

The EU Times seems to be a right wing/neo fascist front
about as reliable as Russia Today on the left. Not that
Patricia Howard January 5 at 4:33am Reply •Report the right/left thing is all that real but it serves as a tag.
Aren't those very shallow? Both serve up a lot of shit on the plate.

Usually of course to distract.

The very fact that this hits so soon after the bird/fish
Patricia Howard January 5 at 4:56am Reply •Report
stuff makes me think the bird/fish stuff is IMPORTANT.
"Dr. Wood uses vibrations of 350,000 to 400,000 cycles. Not just a case of the copy cat media hitting on every
With them he has killed fish in tanks of water and mice group of dead decaying things that nature is always
and other small animals." regurgitating but they never noticed before the web
made world wide viral news possible at a grass roots
Can sound waves kill 85,000 fish in an Arkansas river? level.

Either he had something to do with it, maybe. Or he

didn't.
But they want the emphasis to shift from simple
reporting of facts concerning the dieoffs, which would
Popular Mechanics allow independent people like us to maybe find a
books.google.com pattern, and focus on nutcase ideas that will swamp the
Popular Mechanics inspires, instructs and influences readers to signal with noise.
help them master the modern world. Whether its practical DIY
home-improvement tips, gadgets and digital technology,
In my opinion even if he did it is pointless to worry
information on the newest cars or the latest breakthroughs in
science -- PM is the ultimate guide to our high-tech life about him or his connection. That will never be clarified.
Share It will turn into a tarpit. The real physical evidence
should remain the focus. But they are terrified of that
because it is objective.
Wikileak memos for example could say Bush & Cheney
had a wild child sex orgy at the ranch to celebrate 911.
Patricia Howard January 5 at 5:05am Reply •Report They could even post videos. But the question of the
I'm brought back to this again. The drum fish are unique reality of the videos will then come up. If you can fake a
in that they are bottom feeders and behind the eye is plane into a building video, can't you fake a whoever
located an otolith. into a whatever video? It would never end. Which would
be the point.
An otolith, (οτο-, oto-, ear + λιθος, lithos, a stone), also
called statoconium or otoconium is a structure in the The REAL evidence of 911 went to landfills and Chinese
saccule or utricle of the inner ear, specifically in the steel mills.
vestibular labyrinth. The saccule and utricle, in turn, It will never be found. With every case they try and
together make the otolith organs. They are sensitive to remove focus from physical evidence to "personal"
gravity and linear acceleration. Because of their evidence. This focus on the subjective vs objective is
what makes for a sucessful coverup. So much info :-(
Lordy, it piles up.
So just putting out this story means the dieoffs ARE not Neil:
natural. Because if they were there would be no need to Earthquakes in UK are pretty rare. They say one mag 3
do this kind of stuff. or 4 a year. That is worthy of note on it's own to have
two in two weeks. It will be interesting to see if a
That is the reason to try and continue looking for pattern keeps up. Any swarm of quakes there would be
anything objedtive before it gets swamped. Roo strange.
Reindeer January 5 at 5:04am Reply •Report
ps. how can this be copied to the old thread. Patricia:
It is VERY important. It should be with the other data Thanks for copying the dumpster dude post over here.
and speculation because it forms a framework for it. Ultrasound can certainly kill fish. I don't know how it
might be coupled to them. But if a high frequency
Top US Official MURDERED for Exposing Cause of Bird & electrical induction
Fish Kills WMD Phosgene
current were running along the ground water paths as I
www.youtube.com
Report from the European Union Times 1/4/10 Reports the suggested HAARP could do AND if there were
following:http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-official- piezoelectric rock like quartz in the streams it could
murdered-after-arkansas-weapons-test-causes-mass- possibly convert the RF to ultrasound. Again that would
death/http://www.idph.state.il.us/Bioterrorism/factsheets/phosgen probably only effect bottom feeders.
e.htm
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I keep harping on HAARP because it seems to me to be
the only global scale mechanism that could have
atmospheric and hydrologic and lithospheric effects at
the same time.
Vincent Cataldi January 5 at 5:26am
Patricia: yes shallow - and haarp is said to reach down Vincent:
about ten miles - adding energy slowly is how they claim It looks like earthquakes in OK are pretty new to most
to force an eq - faster and you spray a volcano ... :) people. I would say that has some definite connection
with the whole south central geological situation. 100
years of oil drilling, DWH, HAARP, New Madrid just
getting ready to crack, you name it. Whatever the
ultimate cause there is almost certainly a connection.
Patricia Howard January 5 at 5:28am Reply •Report
Rock Kills Fish As far as the HD stuff, run with it :-D
PINK FLOYD You sound like you are on a roll, that often works best
"On May I5, 1970 they did a two-and-a-half-hour star- precisely when you do need sleep. Then loose ideas
billing set at a Crystal Palace Garden Party complete float to the surface where the connections become more
with fireworks and a 5O-foot inflatable octopus which apparent.
rose from the lake while they played Return To The Sun
of Nothing (later called Echoes). In teeming rain, they I can't really answer any of that off the top of my head,
encored with Astronome Domine. Unfortunately the but it sounds like an interesting proposition. I still keep
volume of the speakers killed the fish in the lake." coming back to HAARP modulating the huge power input
from the sun idea.
The weather and earthquakes both have some
connection to the sun. Obviously I don't just mean the
Transient Realism: LIVE TECHNOLOGY
hot or cold days, but some solar wind, corona,
beat-route.blogspot.com ionosphere interaction that has long term climate effects
this is LIVE TECHNOLOGY ..STRANGER THAN FICTIONLASER , and could induce chaotic short term transients as well.
TECHNOLOGY , PYROTECH , LIQUID SLIDES , EXPLODING There is also almost certainly some sort ionosphere,
PLANES, FLOATING STAGES , SPACE MUSIC AND magnetosphere, internal dynamo convection connection
QUODRAPHONIC ... SIT BACK AND LET THE PICTURES LOAD AND
as well.
EXPLODEPink Floyd are a British progressive rock band noted for
philosophical lyrics, classical roc How though, how to show that? If we are messing with
Share that with HAARP, in a way it makes it harder to
determine the natural connection because now HAARP is
adding it's own "noise" to the natural signal.
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1436&bih=786&q=what+is+causing+oklahoma+earthq
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what is causing oklahoma earthquakes - Google Search There are three types of otoliths, all of which aid fish in
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balance and hearing:
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Sagitta: The largest of the 3 pairs of otoliths, sagitta is

involved in the detection of sound and the process of
hearing, or converting sound waves into electrical
electr
Roo Reindeer January 5 at 6:30am Reply •Report signals.
Patricia:
I wonder if the otoliths are piezoelectric minerals. Asteriscus: This type of otolith is involved in the
That would zap the fish for sure in a very y strong RF detection of sound and the process of hearing.
field.
It would be like having a LOUD speaker INSIDE your Lapillus: This type of otolith is involved in the detection
head! of gravitational force and sound.

Patricia Howard January 5 at 12:43pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 5 at 2:52pm Reply •Report
I think we have a BINGO, Roo! Turns out that otoliths are NOT unique to the drum fish
and are found in many other fish like the snapper and
Ha! Yes, a NASA PDF from 1969. some of the other reports we're seeing outside of the
Arkansas incident.
"the wedge-shaped
shaped pattern of the aragonite crystals in
otoliths suggest that this fabric functions as a I would not suggest reading all of these references, but
piezoelectric body" this could be a helpful resource to indicate which are
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19 otoliths.
700073780_1970073780.pdf References on Otoliths / Otolith Morphology
ntrs.nasa.gov life.bio.sunysb.edu
Share Otolith references, literature, bibliography, on otoliths, otolith
morphology, shape, function, fish hearing, sagittae
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Maxim Karl Rice January 5 at 1:19pm Reply •Report

YES! As soon as Roo mentioned the idea I remembered Patricia Howard January 5 at 4:07pm Reply •Report
a study I read years ago about naturally occurring
occurrin
Somebody is trying to get folks to panic with this one.
piezoelectric materials from living bodies! Thanks
What's interesting is that this was created Jan. 3, 2011
Patricia!
and it's already had almost 3,000 views.

Patricia Howard January 5 at 2:19pm Reply •Report

Oh! I just found a great search engine. :)
Arkansas Bird & Fish Kill Connected To New Madrid
Seismic Zone & NLE 2011?
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National Level Exercise 2011http://tc.indymedia.org/2010/nov/tc-
2011
indymedia-exclusive-secret-trigger
trigger-blueprint-emergency-domestic-
military-crackdown-plan-
ScienceDirect - Hearing Research : Otolith morphology and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaacTx9oi1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaacTx9oi1Ahttp://www.infow
hearing abilities in cave- and surface-dwe ars.com/is-mass-bird-and-fish
fish-die-off-connected-to-government-
www.sciencedirect.com testing/ http://www/
Although not enough ostariophysines have yet been investigated, Share
these data substantiate earlier findings that they can hear a wider
range of sounds and lower intensities than non--ostario-physines.
Patricia Howard January 5 at 4:24pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 5 at 6:29pm Reply •Report
Try to ignore the one million exclamation points - this Ya, good question about NASA, huh?
actually has quite a lot of valid information to include
ritualistic numbers. I know it's a longer video, but worth I've been looking into birds as well, Roo. As far as I can
checking out. tell it's just fish, sting rays and other water critters. I'll
be sure to let you know if I find out otherwise though.
I posted the FEMA New Madrid earthquake plan website
on my page.

Roo Reindeer January 5 at 7:14pm Reply •Report

That "Warning!!! Alert!!!!" video is the best I have ever
seen on this stuff. This guy is good. Most of the HAARP
stuff out ther is crap but he is very specific on a lot of
ALERT! WARNING! DANGER! New Madrid EarthQuake things. Knowing FEMA has "practice" plans for New
Immenent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Madrid does not bode well.
www.youtube.com My only objection is the dateing. I know the ritual timing
PLEASE PASS THIS ON! SHARE WITH ALL YOUR CONTACTS! This
is important to these people, but I am not sure they can
video has PROOF that TPTB are tooling with the New Madrid
Faultline!http://www.asisonline.org/documents/NLE_2011_FACT_S really set off earthquakes on schedule as opposed to
HEET_PS_Participation.pdf(FEMA's drills along the just pushing things till the crack after a period of time. A
faultline) http://www.filedropper.com/die-offsitescorrelation(P New Madrid quake would not have to be set off on a
Share particular day. They might prefer to, but it would not be
necessary.

It also had this comment below:

"Devices used for scaring birds away from aircraft near
Patricia Howard January 5 at 4:43pm Reply •Report
airfields by microwave hearing and induction of vertigo
Press Office exist (Kreithen ML. Patent #5774088 Method and
U.S. Department of Homeland Security system for warning birds of hazards USPTO granted
500 C Street, SW 6/30/98). But the majority of applications are dedicated
Washington, D.C. 20472 for direct machine to brain wireless communication, with
www.fema.gov numerous patents. ...
FACT SHEET experiencefestivalDOTcom/microwave_auditory_effect_-
National Level Exercise 2011 (NLE 2011) _patented_applications

Go to the link and set up a free account. You can get

FEMA | Federal Emergency Management Agency copies of every US patent there. In scanned PDF and
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Services.
Why, praytell, was NASA funding research on rocks in Share
fish ears in 1969?
But that is good info. It could connect HAARP induced
currents that would not be high enough intensity to kill
by electric shock to death by other processes.
Next... do birds have similar piezoelectric transducers in Roo Reindeer January 5 at 7:22pm Reply •Report
their heads? Although I don't think they died the same HAARP original patent is: 4686605.
way. Followup is: 20070238252
Just enter those in the search box on the patent site
after you create an account.
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Roo, I'm fairly sure that's an old isolated story hyped up
to make this new issue look even larger than it really is.
But, I can confirm that New Zealand has reports of dead
birds as well as China.
Patricia Howard January 5 at 7:36pm Reply •Report
Yes, I agree, that was the best video so far and the Anything from "godlikeproductions" or "propheticseer" I
comments are interesting. I wish whoever posts those am totally disregarding unless I can find confirmation
could take their finger off the CAPS LOCK key and use a through other sources. Both of those sources are
few less exclamation points, but it made some good producing numerous 'end of the world' scenarios and
points and provided some good references. feeding off the fear and confusion with all of this.

What I'm wondering at this point, with so many reports

coming up from all over the world (let alone the US), is
there any place that we can truly rule OUT for HAARP?
Patricia Howard January 5 at 9:53pm Reply •Report
Oh yeah ... and Sweden is included too!

Patricia Howard January 5 at 7:39pm Reply •Report

BTW - did anybody bring up the point that Monsanto has
a corporate office in Arkansas (in Stuttgart, Arkansas) Patricia Howard January 5 at 9:57pm Reply •Report
that’
s not too many miles from the Arkansas River? Sorry but, I just gotta say WTF?!?

Roo Reindeer January 5 at 7:54pm Reply •Report

Unlike poison gas, flu virus, fireworks, hot water, cold
water, dirty water, avian attention deficit disorder, Breaking: DEAD BIRDS: Pine Bluff UNDER EMERGENCY
chemtrails etc HAARP is one thing that has global reach WATER ORDERS
in real time. With the ability to affect birds and fish by www.youtube.com
several possible methods. Along with the weather and 05 Jan 2011 - Pine Bluff under Emergency Water Orders! DEAD
BIRDS IN PINE BLUFF. Biological Warfare, Scalar Weapons, Bio-
maybe earthquakes. Nothing else I can think of connects
Weapons... Courtesy of WhiteHouse1600
them all. Share

Roo Reindeer January 5 at 9:32pm Reply •Report Roo Reindeer January 5 at 9:57pm Reply •Report
Italy? I figured that might be the case with a name like
Can't vouch for this. Just got it. "godlikeproductions".
But it may be something. On the other hand if they reported thousands of dead
fetuses turning up in the Vatican I might give it some
credence.

ITALY: THOUSANDS of dead turtledoves falling from the

Patricia Howard January 5 at 9:59pm Reply •Report
sky! (photo gallery), and dead fishes in Tusca
www.godlikeproductions.com
Discussion about ITALY: THOUSANDS of dead turtledoves falling
from the sky! (photo gallery), and dead fishes in Tuscany! at the
GodlikeProductions Conspiracy Forum. Our topics include
Conspiracy Theory, Secret Societies, UFOs and more!
Share Pine Bluff Under Cautionary Boil Order - KATV Channel 7 -
The Spirit of Arkansas:
www.katv.com
KATV Channel 7 in Little Rock and katv.com are Arkansas's leader And then there's the general disinfo crap that makes it
in news, weather, sports and information. Channel 7 News covers even more confusing. I've pretty much figured out how
news and information in the Spirit of Arkansas.
to confirm these stories, but it's a long and tedious
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process with so much out there on the internet getting
passed around.

All in all, I don't believe this can entirely be blamed on

Roo Reindeer January 5 at 10:02pm Reply •Report HAARP at this point.
Well, that Pine Bluff thing "should" be easy to verify.
If people there say they were told to boil their water it
should show up even in the MSM. But since that has
nothing to do with the world wide situation I would say Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:16pm Reply •Report
it is just another diversion to tie in with the dumpster
dude. What in God's name is this?!?

Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:03pm Reply •Report

vvvvv_WTF RIVER TURNS GREEN 2011

www.youtube.com
put this together with all the other shit happening and voila you
got shit happenin..
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Dead Birds Organs Found Pulverized Internally!! - Alex

Jones Tv
www.youtube.com
In the last week, nearly 100,000 fish washed up on the shores of Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:21pm Reply •Report
the Arkansas River, dead. Also in Arkansas, thousands of red-
winged blackbirds fell from the sky and plummeted to the ground Pranksters!
where they were also found dead. Link to Top Story
belowhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/mass-bird-
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Goldstream River runs green
www.nationalpost.com
VICTORIA -It was likely some pranksters who turned the waters of
a Victoria river fluorescent green
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Roo Reindeer January 5 at 10:04pm Reply •Report
Cross posted there Patricia:
You are too fast for me.
It takes time to unlock the trunk,closet,attic sometimes.
Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:28pm Reply •Report
Roo, fish and clams are confirmed dead in Italy.

This report is concise and accurate as far as which have

Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:06pm Reply •Report been confirmed and which have not. There are also
LMFAO! I'm way ahead of you slow poke! :)~~~ some good comments worth reading.

Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:12pm Reply •Report

I'm starting to believe we have a few different issues at
play here and that is why it's hard to figure out what's Wildlife Die Off
www.maya12-21-2012.com
happening for real.
Wildlife Die Off
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I have to wonder if there aren't some "rogue" groups
who might be poisoning fish and it's getting tied in with
HAARP and sun flare activity.
Roo Reindeer January 5 at 10:29pm Reply •Report
No, I agree, HAARP will not turn rivers green.
Maybe teal, but only with more effort then it is usually
worth :-D

Data Index
www.haarp.alaska.edu
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Patricia Howard January 5 at 10:31pm Reply •Report
Although the 2012 tie-in seems a little bizarre to me -
probably explains the pranksters.
Roo Reindeer January 6 at 1:02am Reply •Report
Naturally this assumes the data is honest to begin with.
Rather then doctor data, which is much harder to do the
Neil Plascencia January 6 at 12:09am Reply •Report fakeing pictures in photoshop for example, the
That "Warning Video" is very disturbing!!!! He mentions government usually blanks it and claims instrument
how data was missing on HAARP and how the data from downtime. But as with the seismological data the gaps
before the Haiti earthquake is missing as well. Can't you themselves often constitute "data". Just knowing data is
do an RSS feed from that site to record everything that "missing" when something interesting seems to have
is put on there??? happened somewhere else can be valuable info.

Patricia Howard January 6 at 12:10am Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 6 at 1:04am Reply •Report
Oh boy! Now Illinois - Roo, check out Joseph Farrell's page. He just posted his
assessment of this whole fiasco.
I'm starting to think it's a suicide pact. They believed
that the planet Earth was about to be recycled (wiped
clean, renewed, refurbished and rejuvenated), and that
the only chance to survive was to leave it immediately.
Dead Birds Reported by Residents in Southern Illinois - Patricia Howard January 6 at 3:01am Reply •Report
Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedc Okay, I'm a knob! I got suckered by that video.
www.associatedcontent.com
Dead birds have been reported by residents in southern Illinois.
Birds have been reported in Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas and
Re: The mandatory boil water notice
Kentucky and raises concerns about the New Madrid fault.
Share "A water main break has occurred and a loss of water
pressure has been experienced.

This Precautionary boil water notice will remain in effect

until the problem has been corrected, an adequate
Roo Reindeer January 6 at 12:56am Reply •Report disinfectant level is established throughout the
The HAARP data is available here: distribution system and a bacteriological survey shows
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html that the water is safe to drink."
Most of the plots are selectable from 24hrs to 1 month.
There does not seem to be any way to actually This has absolutely nothing to do with the fish.
download the raw data itself. Just to view the web page
with the plotted graph.
All I can suggest would be to download the whole page
for each instrument data set and save it every day. I
would think it would be possible to set up a script to Patricia Howard January 6 at 3:02am Reply •Report
load the web pages and save them automatically every Mmm .... disinfectant water .... make mine Pine Sol
24 hrs. flavored please.
Although I don't know how to do that offhand.

Patricia Howard January 6 at 3:10am Reply •Report

Falkoping, Sweden pictures of the Japanese fleet approaching 3 days early
they could
"Autopsies were performed on five of the birds. The
institute said they died due to "sudden, hard external not have done it. The best laid plans would have been
blows," according to the press release." undone by "objective" evidence.

When people depend on lies and deception they have a

pathalogical fear of the real "objective" world. It is
Dead birds in Sweden killed by 'external blows' necessary for
www.cnn.com
A large number of dead birds were found in the city of Falkoping, them to keep people focused on the "subjective" world
Sweden, Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, according to a
because they can control that.
press release on the website of the Swedish National Veterinary
Institute. If there were objective information they could not
Share control that. While every talking head pontificated on all
the crapulous

possibilities of a US-Japanese war from the "yellow peril"

to "bolshevism in Asia" to the "end of European
Roo Reindeer January 6 at 3:38am Reply •Report imperialism" to
Patricia:
He could be right about the prospect of gaugeing public the "tradition of isolationism" or "fortress America" the
response to the "they can do this" idea. carriers steamed on course.
But I don't think that is primary.
It is my contention that events like what we see now
In fact worrying about the motivation behind this is as may provide some objective evidence. Far from being
distracting as worrying about the personalities behind it. another in an
It is one
UNENDING series of "psy-ops" (belief in which may
more example of playing into their "subjective" game. constitute a sign of a sucessful psy-op in itself) I say the
Anything to keep people from following the "objective" die-offs are
information,
collateral damage from environmental manipulation. This
events, place, time, result. This kind of thing goes involves local weather, overall climate (both affecting
nowhere slowly. It always peters out in idle speculation. agriculture
It is a good
and ecology), earthquakes, and volcanos.
way to keep books and dvd sales up. It may actually be Who or why has no real time relevence. Just that it is
true, but it does not help with the immediate problem being done. The point is to prove THAT to sceptics in an
which is to inarguable

keep these things from happening. manner. Like a satellite picture of the Imperial fleet.

It is foolish to assume that by revealing who or why If someone is found dead the first priority of the police is
someone is planning something you can prevent it by to determine if it was foul play. Accident, disease,
galvenizeing whatever are

public action. No one really doubted Hitler was planning far less of a concern to the police whose job is to arrest
to conquer Europe. No one cared enough to do anything murderers. Worry about who comes next, then if some
about it one wants

until he did. Knowledge of manipulations behind the to write a book disecting the twisted motives of the killer
scenes on both sides could have never prevented the they can do it after he is put away or hanged.
run up to Pearl You need objective evidence to prove murder. No one
will even investigate who or why without that.
Harbor. The Japanese needed oil, Roosevelt needed an
excuse to go to war with Hitler to save England. No one We need objective evidence to prove HAARP or
cared till whatever is being used for environmental manipulation
on a global scale.
the Arizona blew up. But if someone had had satellite
A correlation between events such as mass dieoffs, Hard blows sounds like being caught up in a tornado like
weather disasters, earthquakes etc that can be wind.
deterministicaly shown The whole flock gets blender blodgened.
Multiple non touching down tornado like winds at
even after the fact is "objective". It would be better if it various parts of the globe in a short time span spell....?
could be demonstrated before the fact and used to deter
it like a

picture of the fleet. But even a definitive connection

after the fact can still prove an event to be man made Patricia Howard January 6 at 4:00am Reply •Report
and alert people Aaaah Roo! You and I are SO on the same page right
now. I've got to be honest, after reading what Joseph
to it in a way that makes denial impossible. Being on the wrote, it kinda took the wind out of my sail. I didn't
alert for a repeat of a crime is better then simply want to comment on it on his page. I totally agree with
refuseing to you.

believe a crime has been commited even if you can not Yes, Multiple non touching down tornado like winds at
guarenty you will be safe from that repeat. various parts of the globe in a short time span spell....?

But as usual the scale is already tipping to the subjective H-A-A-R-P ! ! !

side. Objective evidence will be ignored as more and
more

analysis of the web of deceite itself begins. Skeptics will

Patricia Howard January 6 at 4:03am Reply •Report
simply say it never happened and attempt to prove a
negative, BTW - by far, my favorite word I've learned from you --
"crapulous"
believers will ignore the actual facts of what did happen
and will argue forever about who wants to cover it up :)
and why.
Everyone else will forget about it in a week or so.
Anyone out there in the real world remember Deep
Water Horizon? Roo Reindeer January 6 at 4:17am Reply •Report
I didn't want to go there either :-)
Objective evidence is just too hard to deal with. Soap
His perspective is understandable from his background,
opera journalism is much easier.
that is what he investigates. It is good work and needs
It's like real science vs philosophy. One requires real
to be done, but not of much use in the short term
work in the field or lab. One requires a soft chair.
situation analysis. I am inclined to think everything these
days is getting to be a short term situation.

The FEMA "practice drill" dealing with New Madrid scares

Roo Reindeer January 6 at 3:41am Reply •Report me more then all the other evidence. That is a tie
Excuse the unreadable formatting on that last one. I breaker in my tweeked brain.
don't know what happened. I would delete it if I could
and re-write it but I don't seem to be able to. Also I was busy mixing the Everclear in case a pipe
breaks around here. Or even if it doesn't. it's all good
(:>P~~
Then I realized... why mix it and ruin perfectly good
Everclear?
Roo Reindeer January 6 at 3:45am Reply •Report
Mix the water 50/50 with "Everclear".
Kill the bacteria, kill some brain cells.
Two birds with one stone...
Patricia Howard January 6 at 4:26am Reply •Report
Oops bad analogy here on this thread.
Uhhh, yeaaah ... the FEMA "practice drill" .... BIG red
flag for me too.

Now I'm LMAO @ "Everclear"! You get me giddy

Roo Reindeer January 6 at 3:51am Reply •Report laughing at your comments, Roo. I don't know if it's lack
of sleep or what but, it's 4:25 a.m., and I'm sitting all
alone in my livingroom and laughing my ass off all by The same with schools of fish. If the area were limited
myself over here. :)~ only certain types would be affected. If they have the
piezoelectric otoliths they would be at risk, other species
might not. Bottom feeders might be more vulnerable
due to earth currents. This includes non fish such as the
clams in Italy. Which the report said "rejected the sea",
Patricia Howard January 6 at 5:32am Reply •Report when living ones were returned to the sea they crawled
Is this a trial run of a much larger experiment involving back out. Electric effects or piezoelectric sonic effects
other species? could both be involved. Both would be area and species
sensitive. But that would be the luck of the draw, not
He makes some really good points in this article - pre-selection.
sources are listed at the bottom.
I really can't think of any factors that would enable them
to select certain species in completely different orders
with a different biology such as birds and fishes and
mollusks.
Why are the animals dying? Birds, fish wiped out in
mysterious deaths A single bird specie might respond to a toxin or virus
www.infowars.com and others would not. But that would not effect fishes of
Mike Adams | Animal die-offs are occurring with alarming only one species as well. At the same time killing
frequency across North America. different species of each somewhere else, but still being
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If it was only one species, the same everywhere, I

would say species specific virus, microbe or toxin.
Roo Reindeer January 6 at 9:51am Reply •Report maybe dispersed by chemtrails.
If it were everything in a given area I would say
Good artical, but it only deals with N America and we
something generaly toxic, chemtrails or maybe
know it is bigger then that. It has been admitted that
accidental spill.
the bees were the victims of insecticides that should
never have been approved. That may have been
But that is not what is happening. Also the birds in Ak
intentional to destroy the crops bees pollinate, I woudn't
and Sweden, even though different species a world
doubt that. The bats seem to have a fungus. Natural or
apart both show blunt trauma. Not toxins or microbes.
not I don't know on that one.
Tornado winds would do this. But it is easier for me to
But those events were spread out over a long time. And
believe that they just happened to be in the area of
limited to N America.
tornados formed for other purposes then to assume
someone targeted individual flocks with directed
The more recent dieoffs are worldwide and closely
tornados.
spaced in time.
The same with the fish. Wrong place, wrong time.
Not individual selection.
It could be a trial run for larger experiments, but the
strange selection of species so far makes me think it is
With the weird weather and earthquake phenomenon
opportunistic. Being in the wrong place at the wrong
tied in to the mix it all connects. I don't see what elas
time. The purpose of the experiments is not to kill any
would explain it all together.
species per-se.
Collateral damage by environmental control technology
is the only thing I see matching the patterns.

The birds can be explained because birds of a feather Roo Reindeer January 6 at 10:00am Reply •Report
flock together. In a small footprint tornado a flock, I know the chances of a detailed fish autopsy is slight.
whuch can be several thousand, would be killed. Other But I was thinking that if piezoelectric ultasonic frying
birds in the area would be unlikely to be in the midst of was the case then the tissue in the immediate area of
that flock. So only one species would seem to be hit in a the otoliths or other possible piezoelectric substances
given area. Some where else it would hit another flock should show this effect. It might just be limited to a thin
of a different kind. It is true that more then one flock of layer of tissue and be overlooked because they are
redwing blackbirds were killed in different areas in the mainly looking for microbes or toxins or obvious trauma.
midwest. However the point was made they are very That might be a smokeing gun. Hard to explain that one
abundent. Other birds may be gone for the winter or as "natural".
thinned out. they are the most likely, because they are
the predominent bird.
 Activist Post: The 10 Leading Theories For Dead Birds And
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Roo Reindeer January 6 at 10:35am Reply •Report
This is an outstanding map. It can be added to.
I got it from a post by Debra Caruthers.
I commented to it with a copy of my 2 posts above.
Roo Reindeer January 6 at 2:56pm Reply •Report
Mass Animal Deaths - Google Maps Each one explains part of what we see, but not all of it.
maps.google.com
Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in
Google Maps
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Roo Reindeer January 6 at 10:50am Reply •Report

I put it up on RCHs wall as well to get more exposure
and comments
Earthfiles.com Environment | New Year Deaths of Birds,
Fish and Crabs Around the World
www.earthfiles.com
“I’
ve been here for 30 years and to my knowledge, there has
Patricia Howard January 6 at 2:26pm Reply •Report never been a bird die-off this big. It’
s the sheer numbers of this
Thanks Roo! I'll post it on his personal page as well for one that makes it unusual.”
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feedback.

I'm not sure what to make of this one. It's Sorcha Faal
again, but you never know if there might be a smidgen
of truth here. Patricia Howard January 6 at 6:13pm Reply •Report
Now East Texas - just this morning.

Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test

Causes Mass Death
Now East Texas also reports hundreds of dead birds
www.whatdoesitmean.com
www.allvoices.com
Sorcha Faal, Whatdoesitmean.com
Texans are observing hundreds of dead birds on an East Texas
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bridge, according to a breaking report by KLTV in Tyler. This latest
discovery compounds the mystery of recent
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Roo Reindeer January 6 at 2:44pm Reply •Report

Same dumpster dude story. Phosgene in AK.
Fine, if only birds died, and only in Ak. Patricia Howard January 6 at 7:24pm Reply •Report
But 'taint so. Okay, I've just been told that "Space Nazis" are killing
Distraction. the birds and fish.

Problem solved.

Patricia Howard January 6 at 2:46pm Reply •Report

Here's another new one worth taking a look at.
Vincent Cataldi January 6 at 9:32pm
Roo/All:

I wrote this two days ago and crashed before it was

posted - but it rings true even more as this expands in
several ways.

Here is the concept : The internal convection that is

theorized by Roo, is interacting with the magnetosphere Roo Reindeer January 6 at 10:48pm Reply •Report
- and as the dipole flux gradient climbs, a Vincent:
electromagnetic flow jumps from the upper atmosphere Yes as I mentioned in my HD ramblings last year I think
and down ten miles or so into the earth. there may be a solar system wide disruption in our
future with all the planets manifesting it in varios ways.
This offers new possibilities of what is happening in the It is possible that the HAARP type research and activity
GoM, weather jet stream stalls, and birds and fish (etc.), could be involved in attempts to mitigate some of that
in localized regions. effect. But I don't know if it could do more then "scratch
the surface" so to speak. Depending on the magnitude
Storms on Jupiter rage now, outer solar system planets of the natural effects it may or may not be able to
are warming, energizing, and it seems it is not from the counteract them.
sun which is reducing IR radiation, so it is likely from
within the planet. I also think the birds and fish are dying incedental to
this action. They are not targets. Just collateral damage
If there is an inverted vortex of tetrahedrons within the from the weather/earthquake triggering efforts. In the
sphere (Earth), some points may be super active like the long run the weather alterations can kill off most
Great Spot of Jupiter, or Hawaii - but what about the foodcrops through climate change. Or at least move the
deeper edges of the tetrahedrons that do not touch the arable/desert/tundra boundries around. US midwers
inner surface of the sphere? can they be acting as becomes a dustbowl, sahara becomes wet. Siberia
inductors, magnets, conductors : all dancing with the thaws, Australia becomes like Northern Canada etx. In
Sun through the ionosphere. the long run it all equalizes again. But there would be no
time to shift agricultural production on a large scale
HARRP then is working to test theories, and mitigation before famime. The population that would "enjoy" the
practices are attempted, and it signals a civilization new equilibrium would be a few % of present.
shaking long term event as intensity increases.

If birds and fish are at risk - must we not also question if

our food crops and people, mammals, are also at risk?
Patricia Howard January 6 at 10:56pm Reply •Report
This would explain why the congress and governments I totally agree about the incidental collateral damage.
world wide are allowing the biggest robbery in history as Aaaah, I feel so much better after reading that from
fast as the crooks can take the assets. you, Roo. There are so many others who think not.

Just a gut feeling of the bigger picture - and trying to However, what is collateral damage today ultimately
theorize how the individual events may be consequences affects the entire food chain -- of which we are a part. :-
of the same Big thing. This was to be my two cents (
worth, but my calculation of true inflation - assuming a
free market - makes this my two dollars worth ... :)

Patricia Howard January 7 at 1:02am Reply •Report

I didn't know we had nuclear facilites along the New
Patricia Howard January 6 at 9:50pm Reply •Report
Madrid fault.
That's worth more than two bucks, IMO. :)
Now we need to worry about fallout?

Patricia Howard January 6 at 9:55pm Reply •Report

Vince, if you have time, I think you may be interested in
a blog I posted on my page that looks at the bigger
picture with this whole scenario. New Madrid 2011 EarthQuake Imminent? HAARP Kills
Birds? Proof Fema Drills by PatrioticSpace
It's by Stairwell Sigtar… www.youtube.com
~Re-uploaded with Permission
~credits: http://youtube.com/PatrioticSpacePLEASE PASS THIS
ON! SHARE WITH ALL YOUR CONTACTS! This video has PROOF
that TPTB are tooling with the New Madrid Fault- mushroom cloud than to have to live in a fallout shelter
line!http://asisonline.org/documents/NLE_2011_FACT_SHEET_PS_ and poop in a bucket of bleach.
Participation.pdf(FEMA's drills along the
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Roo Reindeer January 7 at 10:15am Reply •Report

Patricia Howard January 7 at 2:04am Reply •Report Just putting this up here because I realized I posted it in
"As outlined in a lengthy planning document developed several places in comments on posts but forgot to put it
by a federal interagency committee led by the Executive here.
Office of the President and released last summer,
national and especially local authorities should be In a nutshell:
making plans to educate people to take cover and The piezoelectric angle is really showing promise. It
shelter in place after a nuclear detonation." seems to connect many of the species involved in die
offs. It also shows how a HAARP related mechanism
could be the trigger. The high powered RF is converted
to ultrasound.... Which does the damage.

Coral, shellfish, bottom feeders and other fish with

The Unexpected Return of 'Duck and Cover' - Glenn Harlan aragonite otoliths die.They are small, fragile and or fixed
Reynolds - National - The Atlantic in position. Bats die, they are fragile, seem to die while
www.theatlantic.com
Why the Obama Administration has brought back some much-
hibernateing, again fixed in position.
maligned advice from the 1950s on how to respond to a nuclear
attack -- and why it makes a lot of sense Dolphins and whales are large and robust. Do not die
Share directly, but damage to hearing leaves them deaf and
unable to navigate or LOUDSPEAKER effect in head
drives them mad. They beach either way.

Areas of action are where the multiple HAARP beams

Roo Reindeer January 7 at 6:17am Reply •Report
constructively interfere and reach deadly levels. The
Wheee.... I remember that crap in school. areas are small but move about on the globe as the
Like hiding under a school desk was going to protect you beams sweep. They tie in to freak weather and strange
from a fucking 25 megaton H Bomb. If you were in a earthquake clusters, which is the purpose of the directed
city you were toast. energy

Out in the boonies you might have been better off. Birds die from freak weather induced tornado level
Untill you realized EVERYTHING ELSE was toast. vortices that do not touch down and get noticed but
Make sure you stockpile the hay though.. smash birds in flocks to pieces.

Well, that explains it ALL im my twisted mind anyway :-)

[Rural Civil Defense TV Spots 1965] : Dept of Civil Defense

: Free Download & Streaming : Internet A
www.archive.org
Public service announcements by the U.S. Civil Defense office
Roo Reindeer January 7 at 11:54am Reply •Report
inform farmers what to do in case of nuclear attack using This is from a few days ago. But I just got around to
marionettes. listening to it.
Share They say they are a drum species at about 40 seconds.
Like the ones in AK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spot_croaker
Patricia Howard January 7 at 6:25am Reply •Report "Spot are opportunistic bottom feeders, eating mainly
worms, small crustaceans and mollusks, as well as
LMFAO! Good GAWD that is a bizarro video, Roo! Where
organic material"
in the world you pull up some of this stuff I'll never
So even neglecting their otoliths (and they do have
know! lol
them) they are bottom feeders who would be eating
piezoelectric shell substances.
Yes, I can remember going through the duck and cover
whoo hoo.
drills also -- and taking regular tours through the fallout
shelter at school. Even as a kid I knew I'd rather die in a
 Roo Reindeer January 7 at 12:03pm Reply •Report
ignore first cnn post above the link is broken

CNN.com Video
www.cnn.com
Watch the latest breaking news, politics, entertainment and
Patricia Howard January 7 at 2:01pm Reply •Report
offbeat videos everyone is talking about at CNN.com. Get informed
now! Yes, I've seen the same references in other links too,
Share Roo. You are absolutely right! :)

Roo Reindeer January 7 at 11:57am Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 7 at 7:12pm Reply •Report
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/01/06/todd "Blue stain believed to be sign of poisoning or hypoxia -
.chesapeake.fish.kill.cnn?hpt=T2 lack of oxygen that is precursor to altitude sickness."

Just to clarify, I do not believe it is due to poisoning.

CNN.com Video
www.cnn.com
Watch the latest breaking news, politics, entertainment and
offbeat videos everyone is talking about at CNN.com. Get informed
now! Animal death mystery: Two MILLION dead fish wash up in
Share Maryland bay
www.dailymail.co.uk
Residents in Faenza described the birds falling to the ground like
'little Christmas balls' with strange blue stains on their beaks.
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Roo Reindeer January 7 at 12:00pm Reply •Report

This is from a few days ago. But I just got around to

listening to it. Patricia Howard January 7 at 7:19pm Reply •Report
They say they are a drum species at about 40 seconds.
Golly, I wonder why NASA funded this study?
Like the ones in AK.
Piezoelectric Property of Otoliths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spot_croaker Piezoelectric Property of Otoliths
"Spot are opportunistic bottom feeders, eating mainly adsabs.harvard.edu
worms, small crustaceans and mollusks, as well as Share
organic material"
So even neglecting their otoliths (and they do have
them) they are bottom feeders who would be eating
piezoelectric shell substances.
whoo hoo Roo Reindeer January 7 at 8:57pm Reply •Report
Click on this link, not the icon link below The altitude sickness could easily be from being drawn
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/01/06/todd up by the tornado vortex to high altitude. It did not say
.chesapeake.fish.kill.cnn?hpt=T2 if they also suffered blunt trauma, that would be good to
know. Both symptoms together would be corroborative
of a tornado effect. The interior of tornadoes are also
very low pressure areas, they cause buildings to explode
due to sudden pressure drop exterior to the building. So
CNN.com Video they may cause suffication even at low altitude once you
www.cnn.com get sucked in.
Watch the latest breaking news, politics, entertainment and
offbeat videos everyone is talking about at CNN.com. Get informed
now! Hopefully someone will check on the blunt force angle
Share because so many reports of other dead birds have
mentioned it.

The only reason I can see for NASAs interest would be

the function of the middle ear in balence control and
orientation. The otoliths are the primitive form of the Do not look and ye shall not find...duuhhh.
mechanism in the human man ear that does that.
In the early space program research on the Maybe the ABCs are e out shooting bats now to divert
maintainence of orientation in zero g was common. interest :-D
Pilots have to deal with rotations and accellerations in (No, that was a joke. I hope.)
3D. If an aircraft is spinning about all 3 axes in an
emergency situation getting it back under control is a
pretty tricky business even for an experienced test pilot
in a normal "up/down" environment.

Without gravity to provide that "up/down" reference it is

bat die off in northeast baffles scientists - Google Search
even harder. That rotational sensory ability is critical. it www.google.com
is the only way the pilot will know if he has stopped Share
spinning in one axis and can deal with the other two.

Roo Reindeer January 7 at 10:21pm Reply •Report

Patricia Howard January 7 at 9:04pm Reply •Report The cell phone people would love to hook customers up
That would make sense. I did see references to the to one of those inplants.
Cochlear Implants when I was researching otoliths. I
have a deaf friend and the implants work by using
special electronic technologies to take the place of non
non-
working parts in the middle or inner ear.
Patricia Howard January 7 at 10:44pm Reply •Report
"wildlife officials took seven of the dead birds for
analysis and told him not to speak with the media."
Patricia Howard January 7 at 9:48pm Reply •Report
A new twist -

UPDATE: Arizona Game and Fish determined the bats Quebec bird deaths stump wildlife officials | Canada |
died from BB shots. Necropsies found BB pellets still in News | Toronto Sun
the bodies of many of the dead animals. www.torontosun.com
More than 80 pigeons have keeled over and died at a farm near
Quebec City for unknown reasons, the latest in a string of
mysterious animal deaths around the world.
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Dozens of bats found dead on east side - KOLD News 13

www.kold.com
Live, local and late breaking in Southern Arizona. KOLD News 13
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for news, weather and sports.
Share Normally I would assume cover up of oil or corexit
related deaths. But now i'm not so sure. This could be
more piezo stuff. No doubt HAARP has a major presence
in the GOM. Whether in connection with DWH or
hurricane manipulation. TheTh officials may be telling the
Roo Reindeer January 7 at 10:18pm Reply •Report truth here at least in this one case, no oil.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw= Mississippi officials find
ind 80 to 90 PERCENT of OYSTERS
1436&bih=786&q=bat+die+off+in+northeast+baffles+s DEAD — claim NO EVIDENCE OIL CONTRIBUTED | Fl
cientists&aq=7v&aqi=g1g- www.floridaoilspilllaw.com
Officials from the Mississippi Department of Marine Resources
v8&aql&oq=bat+die+off&gs_rfai
(DMR) voluntarily took oyster fishermen out on the reefs off the
Pass Christian Harbor on
I was thinking of these stories
ries involving large numbers. Share
Which may be a fungus. or the fungus may attack them
after they die, just a thought.
Again I don't think anyone ia looking for ultrasound
damage in the autopsies.
Patricia Howard January 7 at 11:21pm Reply •Report
Whoa! Nice find, Roo! It seems others are eager to write The properties of bird feathers as converse piezoelectric
that off as BP related as well - it's a natural assumption I transducers and as receptors of microwave radiation. II.
suppose. It's been "drilled" into our heads. Bird feathers as dielectric receptors of microwave
radiation.
But, how does this make sense? The properties of bird feathers as converse piezoe...
[Biotelemetry. 1975] - PubMed result
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"We don’t have any evidence that oil has contributed to
PubMed is a service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine that
these mortalities." includes over 19 million citations from MEDLINE and other life
science journals for biomedical articles back to the 1950s. PubMed
... but "fishermen suspect the oil is a cause for the includes links to full text articles and other related resources.
amount of empty oyster shells dredged up on the DMR Share
trip."

I wonder how we can correlate the days that deaths Patricia Howard January 8 at 2:49am Reply •Report
were discovered like this with when HAARP was used?
Tissue reactions under piezoelectric shockwave
I also wonder if it's harder to figure out when clams application for the fragmentation of biliary calculi.
actually die when all they are finding is an empty shell.
That could be tough. Growing up as a river rat myself, "In acute animal experiments, small haematomas were
we always found empty shells on the beaches. But I observed in all six animals at surfaces, but also inside
guess nobody is really clamming in the muddy the liver and gall bladder."
Mississippi either. Let's hope not anyways.

Tissue reactions under piezoelectric shockwave

application for the fragmentation of biliary calculi.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Roo Reindeer January 7 at 11:36pm Reply •Report National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National
Yeah timing would be hard. They are not like the clams Library of Medicine 8600 Rockville Pike, Bethesda MD, 20894 USA
that ran (OK, strolled) up onto the Italian beaches. They Share
are long dead.
Without soft parts it is also difficult to prove the oil one
way or the other too. In this case they could have died
of oil or corexit but the bodies have been eaten or Patricia Howard January 8 at 3:05am Reply •Report
decayed (or dissolved... ewww) so the traces are gone.
This one is harder to pin down because it may have *WARNING: from a blog site (but still it's good to see
involved both causes. Oil or corexit kills some. Hurricane that someone else is trying to figure out what's going
control related HAARP later kills others. They all rot on)
before being found.

Other bottom die offs in areas with out any recent oil "As an electrical engineer and high school physics
spill history would be a cleaner signal. If they come up teacher, I surmise how
on the beach they get attention. If they die on the these two phenomena could be related.
bottom maybe they are ignored by all but the There is an electro-mechanical phenomenon termed "the
commercial fisherman. So they never hit the news. piezoelectric
One more case of "if you do not look, you will not find". effect." When crystalline solids are impacted, the shock
causes the
instantaneous generation of thousands of volts of
electrical energy for a
fraction of a second. The piezoelectric principle is used
Patricia Howard January 7 at 11:43pm Reply •Report to spark your
Roo, is there any way to pin down when HAARP is being gas stove and gas grill, as well as your cigarette lighter,
used? Other than seismic activity - any record of it when a tiny
anywhere that the public could access? Preferably legally hammer strikes a crystal. Well, deep inside the Earth's
... :) crust are fissures
that separate rock formations, the largest of which are
crustal tectonic
plates, twelve of which comprise the entire crust of the
Earth.
Patricia Howard January 8 at 2:22am Reply •Report When the magma filled mantle below the crust becomes
disturbed,
these adjacent rock masses, and even the tectonic WHODID911, PNAC, AIPAC, ADL, CFR, TC, Free
plates, are banged Masonry, Skull & Bones, IRS, FRB, IMF, DHS, AIG,
up against one another, and the result is the generation, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, zionists et al r all
across their Global Terrorists"
marginal gap, of many thousands of volts of electrical
energy.
Now, when a high voltage is generated in an abrupt
time step,
almost instantaneously, an *extremely* strong Vincent Cataldi January 8 at 3:37am
electromagnetic Patrica (back again for a while as I ReBuild my
field is generated which billows outward from the computer) :
voltage arc,
and this field can easily travel very high up into the sky, One idea that is in my head - crazy as it is (idea &
as well head), what if these crazy humans are trying to avoid
as through the surrounding ground. This could explain the Big One, and do so by triggering many small events
the that would each reduce accumulated stress. Imagine a
abrupt death of many birds. And yes, flashes of greenish freaked out government - told that it's getting hot down
colored there and it is going to start bloowing up with
light accompany this electromagnetic burst. But earthquakes of a very large size - no doubt about it -
remember, birds are BUT if we poke a relief hole down into the mess, we can
dying all over the world, so are we to suspect that reduce the overall stress accumulated over a long term
earthquakes are by adding stress quite quickly - this keeps it localized
beginning to fulminate all over the world, and can target fault regions to 'snap' with a bit of
simultaneously? control..
It is very important that you look at this photograph
taken before the This does not assume that the experts are honest - but
great earthquake in China. Swarms of toads are fleeing if a US government was told such a story and had
out of the iabsolute evidence of ncreasing pressures everywhere -
ground. Why? Because they are being zapped!" perhaps BP would seem to be the best experts available
Yahoo! Groups for this New Problem. It would also explain why they
groups.yahoo.com were allowed to do as they wished, even ignore US
Yahoo! Groups offers free mailing lists, photo & file sharing, group government.
calendars and more. Discuss hot topics, share interests, join online
communities.
Share Twenty five plus years ago a high ranking US gov official
told me what to watch for, what they all expected and
were preparing for - and he carefully assured that many
more Good Guys are working like hell to overcome the
shadow government which was world wide, especially in
Patricia Howard January 8 at 3:12am Reply •Report the navies (I thought that odd for a long time).
*WARNING - also from the same blog site re: New
Madrid fault I am therefore looking for an answer that is not
dependent on Bad Guys everywhere - they are carefully
positioned, well equiped, well informed, but grossly over
"Watch where these events occur-like Operation Gladio numbered.
were always close to a US/NATO Military Base &
whatever is said in the Lame Stream media will most That said - I have a lot to read above just to catch up ...
likely be lies
and I am treading water - may go down at any moment
Was the Gulf Event done with the intended result to ... :)
weaken the plates to allow them to slide causing the
Madrid Fault to cause massive destruction-tis said it
could split the US & cause the Great Lakes to empty
down the Mississippi with the tidal wave wiping out
Patricia Howard January 8 at 3:51am Reply •Report
Florida
Vince, if "poking a relief hole down into the mess" goes
anything like the "poking" they did in the GOM ... it
I thimks we have had more n enuf of this NWO BS & doesn't turn out well.
they need to go-as I said, they r known by their acts :-{
And then there's that pocket of methane under the sea showed electric utility usage as proof the Norway ESCAT
bed that wants and excuse to blow. :-{ HARRP type unit was running. But I don;t know how
they got that data. The US Alaska HAARP has it's own
generators, so I don't think we get to look at their bill.
Other sites in various countries may have electric
sources that can be traced, but few are as democratic
Patricia Howard January 8 at 3:55am Reply •Report and open as Norway. Others like in Russia are military
"BP is more likely to escape the potentially ruinous and have their own power as well. So I don't think it can
charge of gross negligence, according to City analysts, be easily of legaly traced that way.
after a powerful US commission blamed "systemic"
causes for the Gulf of Mexico disaster." I will get you a series of web sites that record
Ionospheric, space weather, solar and VLF RF
phenomenon. But it is a deep pit. All or some of the data
MAY be correlated to HAARP. But it is hard to say.
The actual RF output of HAARP type transmitters around
Gulf oil spill: BP set to avoid gross negligence charge | the globe should be detectable but you would have to
Environment | The Guardian know when, where, and at what frequency to look. If
www.guardian.co.uk you knew that though, you would not have to look :-)
Shares rise as US commission blames 'systemic' causes for spill
Catch 22.
and analysts say DoJ inquiry unlikely to contradict findings
Share Also they may just use short pulses applied over a
period of time. So it would be hard to pin down. That is
the problem with almost all the HAARP theories. The one
clear cut "HAARP is on, things are wierd" signal was the
Norway Spiral. Probably because it was necessary to run
Vincent Cataldi January 8 at 3:58am major continuous power to do something as direct as
They propose doing so in a caldera in Italy too - I think stop a missle. Tweeking the Ionosphere to affect
these idiots are like that little Dutch kid with his finger in weather is probably more of a "slow and easy" thing.
the dyke. No way to stop Father Nature : who has been Nudge the natural system and let it do most of the work
gone for a while, energetically getting Mother Nature for you. Like starting an avalanche with a rifle shot. The
hot, and we are not a big concern to them right now ... shot gets lost in the resulting noise. Even more so if they
:) are modulating solar wind interaction with the
ionosphere. An even more gentle nudge takes
advantage of the energy in the wind to force changes in
the ioosphere, which then affects the weather, or
induces earth currents deep in the crust where the heat
Patricia Howard January 8 at 5:10am Reply •Report and vibration nudge already touchy faults into action.
Swedish bird mystery: Deaths due to 'external injuries'
Bird feathers are piezoelectric too!!
I am skeptical about this since they were found in the Holy shit, what isn't these days?
road and likely run over by vehicles - but still worth Great find, the hemotomas induced by piezoelectric
reading. shock could be a factor with the birds in some cases
where blunt force trauma was assumed. The damage
was internal and assumed external because, once again,
no one was looking for damage from the inside out.
Swedish bird deaths are explained Either mode of damage can be connected to HAARP
www.bbc.co.uk type action in principle.
Officials investigating the mysterious deaths of up to 100 birds in
Sweden say tests reveal they suffered external injuries.
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The blog site guy was right, EQ's do certainly generate
piezoelectric effects. but the die offs here have not been
associated with major quakes. I don't think small quake
clusters would hurt animals. At any rate not birds in the
air.
Roo Reindeer January 8 at 5:31am Reply •Report The GOM deal may well be associated with attemps to
Geez.. you guys are dangerous. i leave for a couple of destabilize New Madrid. We have discussed that.
hours and look what I come back to :-0.
Naturally BP will get off the hook. Taxpayers will cover
Well, let's see here; all costs. BP will get more tax breaks... etc
Patricia, there are no direct ways to determine if HAARP
is on as far as I know. The Norway Soiral write ups both Vincent: You are an incurable optimist... go home :-D
Seriously of course it is always possible. Some people
may be working to fix things. However I have trouble
thinking Dick Cheney may be one of them :-). Of course
if someone were attempting to prevent a big EQ, in New Patricia Howard January 8 at 5:53am Reply •Report
Madrid for example, a smaller series would possibly As always Roo, I read what you've written and all I can
relieve stress. The methodology would be the same and say to myself is, "Yup ... yup ... yup ... uhuh ... yep."
the colateral damage would be the same as if someone TOTALLY AGREE! :)
were trying to trigger a big one. Killing a few million fish
and thousands of birds who, let's be honest, are fodder I especially liked your reaction to the peizoelectric bird
for the food chain anyway, would be a fair trade to avoid feathers. Those were my thoguhts too ... "Holy shit,
a mag 10 in the mid US. what isn't these days?"
I am not sure of the amoral nature of killing people in
Haiti to save people here. But politicians have done that All of the dots seem to be connecting. I like this ... this
sort of thing for 5000 years or more, so it would not be is FUN ... :)
anything extraordinary.

But I still think attempting to "out" them and prove that

they are up to something even if their intentions are
laudable is the best course of action. To use my example Roo Reindeer January 8 at 5:57am Reply •Report
above of Pearl Harbor, exposing the Japanese plans may I'll try and get you that list of sites by tomorrow.
have stopped the attack. It may not, as the Japanese See if you think it is FUN when your brain starts to
were in a bind where they needed east Indian resources. bleed.
They may have attacked even without the element of Not from HAARP but from HARRP data overload :-)
surprise. But no one would have been able to claim Bwahahahaa another one sucked into the circle of
Roosevelt "tricked" us into war to save England from doom....
Hitler. It would have been above board.

Letting politicians decide to keep vital information from

the public in a democracy "for our protection" has
always been a bad policy. Roo Reindeer January 8 at 5:59am Reply •Report
If they are really doing this "for our protection" we have Ignore that last line it was a glitch in the dictation
a RIGHT TO KNOW. The government has a right to keep software.
details secret, no one ever expected a plan of D-Day Those words were never actually spoken.
beach asaults to show up in the Sunday papers two
weeks before the attack. But they have no right to wage
secret war. Not when it has the potential of anihilation.
Not in a Constitutional Republic.
Patricia Howard January 8 at 6:12am Reply •Report
That Italian volcano project is interesting. It is an My brain already bleeds ... remember the migraines ...
example of something that COULD be done safely. If the and the government. Oh, that reminds me ... time to do
money and oversight were there. With the lessons of my taxes. Oh joy!
DWH any short cuts to "reduce costs", negligence with
safety procedures, failure to adress potnetial problems No hurry on the lists. I'm winding down and about to
do to the need to meet totally artificial economic crash for a few hours. First time since October.
"deadlines"... do it by the board meeting on Tueday so I
can get my $20 million project completion bonus
bullshit... could be avoided. Plans to really cut it off even
with 100,000psi or more could be put in place. multiple
Roo Reindeer January 8 at 6:17am Reply •Report
cutoff points, reliable and continuous monitoring, all
COULD be done. But no one trusts anyone to do that Lock the trunk and the closet and the attic and the
sort of thing anymore. They have seen too much corrupt windows and the door and the gate.
corporate and government incompetence over the last Sleep tight.
30 years. Who would trust anyone nowadays even to
duplicate what has been done in the past such as
Hoover Dam or the Golden Gate? Couple the risk of
incompetence with the possibility of malice and it's Roo Reindeer January 8 at 6:17am Reply •Report
better to let sleeping dogs lie.
Ps It will be easier if you lock those in reverse order.
 surface for all to see.

Even the Sun is a manipulated object in this vast scale

Patricia Howard January 8 at 6:20am Reply •Report of the event I see as a single most likely cause for the
"They" still know what I'm thinking though. HMPH! many symptoms we see.

Unfortunately, we are in the arena of Big Science,

government controlled equipment, and we Must assume
that they will not risk chaos in the streets - world wide -
Patricia Howard January 9 at 4:46am Reply •Report at nearly any cost !
"I would suggest there could only be two reasonable
answers to the recent string of bird and fish deaths. 1) Also, as a thread of this thought process, I think of the
Man-made. This is to say some sort of new military Pope who back engineered the time and date of the
weaponry which emits a form of geo-magnetic pulse. If Event to be 11:11 on 12/21/2012 - based upon archived
so, the next question would be ... was it intentional or Mayan library treasures secretly kept. Why, I ask : why
unintentional? Either way, this is one scary scenario. not hide the data just a bit - why not engineer it to be at
Either they don't know what the hell they're doing -or- 11:11 on 12/21/2011 -- protect the secret, and no one
they don't have our best interest in mind. Of the two, I would have time to panic ... :)
would hope for "idiots-at-work."

The second two answer is no less frightening. 2) The

deaths were caused by a "natural occurrence". This is to Vincent Cataldi January 9 at 6:40pm
say it was caused by a geo-magnetic flux from the Sun,
and its possible chain-reaction with the Earth's core." PS - but I suppose that the Mayans would not allow such
deception ... :)

Patricia Howard January 9 at 6:46pm Reply •Report

Whoa! Vince, you hit the nail on the head with that last
"Fireworks" - Are You Kidding Me? .... Here Is The Real statement! That is exactly why I sent you and Roo that
Cause message about 12/21/2011 -- I had the SAME thought. I
myemail.constantcontact.com just am not knowledgable enough to know if this is truly
Since the highly published occurrence of 3,000 to 5,000 blackbirds
falling to their death on January 1st 2011, more bird and fish mass
a possibility. But that date really struck me -- obviously -
suicides have occurred. Just yesterday, a new report telling of - and prompted that other message about the
millions of dead fish surfaced in Maryland's Chesapeake Bay. "impending pole shift."
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Vincent Cataldi January 9 at 7:54pm

Vincent Cataldi January 9 at 6:35pm Yes - and since the Mayans are Credited with the
I am betting that the birds, and GoM are both due to a invention of "Zero", it seems logical and befitting to use
natural event which were interfered with by humans that to confuse by one year - but I do not see the Mayan
trying to study, test, explore, mitigate damage : I elders all being confused or even being intentionally
suspect the governments and scientists (lab rats) of the confusing : is there any disagreement with the actual
world are scared to death, know enough to know they year of the special 12/21 within the native Americans, to
know too little to do anything really useful - including tell your best knowledge?
us what they know they do not know !

Even the birds death, as in option one above, is also a

logical 'cost' if one assumes option two above - except
for one thing : if birds and fish died, say from microwave Patricia Howard January 9 at 8:38pm Reply •Report
energy, then We, the People were/are also at risk and Vince, not to my knowledge. BUT, this is my
this too is thought to be worth the cost - they are trying understanding to be the consensus by all of my relations
to save a civilization and that makes it prudent to loose -- from various tribes and varied prophecies:
a few in the early days of the fight to survive, especially
if massive solar and earthly events of nature are just Dec. 21, 2012 is NOT a day when all life ceases to exist,
starting to grow enough to poke their head above the nor is it a date of a single cataclysmic event. Rather it
marks the time of the end of one cycle and the I thought this was rather interesting - whether it
beginning of a new one. What most believe to be true is happens or not - it's fun to think about MN landing on
that the change has already begun and will continue the equator when it's now -20 degrees.
past 2012. We are already seeing great changes
economically, politically, morally, etc. Of course, nothing
of this potential magnitude happens overnight (or at
precisely 11:11 a.m.) but rather by gradual changes.
However, many seem to feel (and I would agree) that
the VERY unusual planetary alignment that day will most
2012: Earth's Equator after 40 degree Pole Shift
likely (at the very least) trigger solar flares .... which www.youtube.com
trigger earthquakes .... which trigger tsunamis ... etc. http://www.timeline2012.net/ This video illustrates approximately
So, there is most definitely the potential for geological where the new equator will be located after Earth's pole shift in
events to occur on or near that date that contribute to 2012. This is based on data which indicates the pole shift could be
the changes and will be attributed to prophecy by many, as much as 40 degrees, placing the new North Pole in upper
Mongolia. The white icon in the middle of
but it will be nothing like the apocalypse or "rapture" as
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so many have described.

That having been said, I do not believe that it will come

and go like Y2K did, and I have been creating my own
personal notes and saving pertinent documents which I Patricia Howard January 9 at 10:46pm Reply •Report
will post shortly that pertain to general survival Now you see it, now you don't.
information that may be helpful/useful in the times to
come. It never hurts to be prepared. If the grid should "WORLDWIDE SEISMIC MATCHES CURRENT BLACKOUT OF
go down, it may be wise to have downloadable PDFs CME! cover your paws!
aready printed as reference material should one need to www.youtube.com
http://umtof.umd.edu/pm/ http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/http
know how to purify water, start a fire without matches, ://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.shtml IF YOU LOOK AT
and avoid hypothermia (among many other things to THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED , IT ALL FITS THE TIMELINE IN
think about.) It may also be wise to plan ahead with ?.."GOTCHA" ;)
batteries, radio, dry foods and drinking water. I'm not Share
trying to spread fear or give the impression of
impending doom, just planning for the worst and hoping
for the best. Very honestly, my own survival is not so
much of a concern (I've been doing it my whole life) as
Roo Reindeer January 9 at 10:53pm Reply •Report
is the civil unrest that I expect to happen. Vince, I don't
now if you saw what I posted yesterday about the 100 Everytime I sleep for 48 hours I get behind the curve
teens swarming a mall in Milwaukee and ransacking and here.
looting -- just for kicks. I envision many more frequent I will have to stop doing that ;-)
occurances like this in the years to come. Think Rodney I wrote this in reply to the first post Patricia put up
King riots ... then you'll know where I'm coming from. about pole shifts.
It is mainly in regard to the recent media frenzy on
While I look forward to change, I do have some magnetic drift.
reservations about some difficult days that are to come, I will get back on the possibility (low, I am inclined to
and networking now and sharing information IMO is believe) of "real" pole shift later.
incredibly important. The notes I've written are by no
means complete, but they are a start, and I would It's in two parts because FB told me it was too long. Like
welcome any feedback or suggestions for other links to why do they give a fuck as long as it is a private
add to my notes. message and not a wall post?

With regard to the possibility of poleshifts:

This is real can of tangled worms.

Patricia Howard January 9 at 8:38pm Reply •Report Mostly made all but opaque to many people by the
Sorry, that was a rather long answer to an easy question amount of psuedoscience psychobabble drivel being
... :-} circulated on the web, and the pig headed attitude of
some scientists and professional "debunkers" who stick
to a tunnel vision, sphomoric, view of definitions and
arguments

Patricia Howard January 9 at 9:20pm Reply •Report There is no doubt of the actual movement of the
magnetic poles. I will focus on that because, at the mainstream from even looking at some aspects that may
same time, there is ZERO evidence of the movement of be correct.
the Geographic poles. They may move at sometime in
the future, they may have moved in the past. I will try
to get to that later, but they are not moving now.
Roo Reindeer January 9 at 10:54pm Reply •Report
I will demonstrate with five websites. Here are the 5 websites that demonstrate the problem.
The first two are NASAs. As far as it goes, it is objective There is one more at the end that shows the nature of
and correct. But it ignores phenomena that are well the problem from an engineering viewpoint.
known and interconected. Simple tunnel vision. But I am prejudiced in that regard :-)
A refusal to connect the dots. Also statements that have
the tone of declared fact, dispite the true fact that they The Sun Does A Flip
are assumptions that could well be in error. The http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-
conclusions drawn from this limited perspective are then nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/
parroted on website after website,without critical is the most straight forward. The sun's magnetic field
analysis. flips during each sunspot cycle. Simple and direct
evidence of this has been recorded for about 100 years.
The next two are pseudo science. A bit of objective The article goes on to deal with more recent discoveries
reality tied in with total nonsense that is easily and concerning the extended nature of the solar
inarguably disprovable. Yet it is stated in a clear and magnetosphere and the impact of these flips on it.
direct manner as if it were a fact. Leaving someone with The origin of this cycle, the impact on the weather, etc
no knowledge of the subject with the impression that on earth, relation to other events in the solar system can
this is as things are and a logical argument based on be argued till the cows come home. But it DOES flip, all
these premises is not only valid but true. The objective the time.
falsity of the initial premise is missed due to the The tunnel vision here comes from the refusal to
definitive tone of the presentation. address, even in a speculative form, the above stated
The errors get parroted on website after website, origin,impacts and relationships.
without critical analysis.
The second NASA site:
The fifth one is a newspaper column on the "La Nina" http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/29dec
and it's effect on the weather. Again essentially true. But _magneticfield.html
another example of tunnel vision. it deals with the effect again is pretty straight forward. Nothing really new here.
of El Nina on the local and global weather patterns and Essentially an exposition basic facts. But coupled with
even the "origin" of El Nina in the variation of the the basic facts are statements that are suppositions
pressure in areas near the Arctic. thinly disguised as facts. Worse, omissions of known fact
Yet it does not connect the Arctic variations with the that anyone involved in this kind of research is aware of.
almost certain influence of the Ionosphere on high The most important one here is:
altitude temperature variations that drive those "They've also learned what happens during a magnetic
variations. The Ionosphere in turn is affected by the sun, flip. Reversals take a few thousand years to complete,
both directly and by solar wind, by the interaction of and during that time--contrary to popular belief--the
both with the earth's magnetic fields and by magnetic field does not vanish. "It just gets more
manipulation through HAARP (as clearly laid out in the complicated," says Glatzmaier. Magnetic lines of force
initial patent). None of this is mentioned. near Earth's surface become twisted and tangled, and
magnetic poles pop up in unaccustomed places. A south
The sun, and to a lesser degree the earth directly magnetic pole might emerge over Africa, for instance, or
interact with the local galactic environment. Dust , a north pole over Tahiti. Weird. But it's still a planetary
radiation, magnetic fields. All are capable of influencing magnetic field, and it still protects us from space
the sun/earth interaction. All are capable of upsetting radiation and solar storms"
things at a level that could vary from annoying to
catastrophic, to total planatary anihilation. But nobody is The blatent omission is the absolute current knowledge
getting the details straight because the mainstream that the magnetosphere does not provide anywhere
sciences are too narrow in their view and the alternative near the same degree of protection from radiation near
science ideas are mostly just plain flat out crap. the magnetic poles as it does in other regions. It is a
The narrowness of mainstream views block some of the donut shaped field. Near the holes at the top and
obvious connections between facts that are known to be bottom there is much less shielding. If the chaotic
true but whose interelationships are ignored. The multipole pattern shown in the figures were to develop
absurdity of most of the alternative views prevent the during a flip (and it surely would) then there would be a
multiplicity of "holes" at various points on the globe. Not
just at the uninhabited frigid polar regions. This would electro-magnetic field. Since Earth’ s electro-magnetic
obviously have an impact on the surface. They ignore field is responsible for the stability of our geographic
this, despite the fact that I know they know this. North and South poles, it makes sense that a weakening
Tunnel vision. of that field creates a greater potential for an external
They also ignore any possible magnetic field/ionosphere force to act upon it."
coupling, again even though they know that the
ionosphere is CREATED by the magnetic field. First it is gravity and not electromagnetism of the sun
It's structure MUST change as the field changes. Along that is responsible for the earths orbit. If it were the
with weather patterns and possible other biological suns electromagnetism then we would be in deep shit
effects. every 22 years when the suns EM field flips. This never
Tunnel vision. has any effect on our orbit. Also the earths
electromagnetic field has no effect on the stability of the
The next site seems reasonably scientific. They make earths geographical poles. If it did then planets and
some statements that seem to follow a logical pattern. moons such as Mercury, Venus, Mars and our moon and
The conclusions appear solid based on the premises. But other smaller moons which have magnetic fields that
the declaretive form of the statements obscure their range from 1/1000 to 1/1,000,000 or less of the
total falsity. strength of ours would be wobbling all over hell and
gone. But they are perfectly stable without any magnetic
http://www.timeline2012.net/prepare/possible-earth- field.
events/pole-shift-magnetic Everything on this type of site follows from the premise
that the planetary motions are controlled by magnetic
"Since a flip in magnetic poles can only occur if Earth fields. But that basic premise is wrong. The suns
spins in the opposite direction, this means that Earth constantly changing field and non fields on other planets
must have reversed it’ s rotation from East to West and prove that. But they build up a whole house of cards on
West to East throughout history" it.

They reiterate this theme several times for emphesis. Lastly here is the weather article.
But it is total absolute bullshit. They are putting the cart http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/05/3299801/wily-la-
before the horse. The idea that the magnetic field can nina-goes-on-a-romp.html
only flip if the direction of rotation changes is idiocy. The They get it all right as far as they go.
FACT that the sun's magnetic field flips like clockwork But they ignore the further connection between the
every 22 years without any disruption in the direction of weather/ionosphere/sun/galactic environment.
rotation of the sun or the orientation of it's physical axis At least in that case though it is a newpaper article
of rotation shows that the magnetic poles are perfectly about the weather. So the blinders are excuseable here.
capable of flipping without any effect on the geographic They have no real obligation to look "upward". But if the
axis. The magnetic pole has been wandering for NASA people would at least make the effort to look
centuries, hundreds of miles. The rotational axis hasn't "downward" it would go a long way to makeing possible
moved more then a few feet, literally. Mostly herky, some realistic progress in this area.
jerky due to very large earthguakes and change in the
moment of inertia of the northern hemisphere caused by The main problem in most of these arguments is clearly
the slow rebound of the crust recovering from the load demonstrated here:
of the last ice age. http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-09/
I often encounter this problem myself when I attempt to
A further page on the same site again gets things clarify things.
TOTALLY wrong. And obviously so.
http://www.timeline2012.net/prepare/possible-earth-
events/pole-shift-geographic
NASA - Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field
"Now, let’ s imagine Earth being held in orbit by the www.nasa.gov
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magnetic force begins to act on Earth. If the external to ensure that javascri
force is strong enough, a pole shift and even a change Share
in rotation are possible outcomes from such an event.

Earth is going through a variety of changes at this

moment that actually could facilitate a geographic pole
shift in the very near future. These changes include a Roo Reindeer January 9 at 11:05pm Reply •Report
slowing of Earth’ s core and a weakening of Earth’s
Somewhere back up there I recall the predictions of EQs estimated to be about a 31 on a 1-20 scale, and this
on the 5/6/7 of Jan range relateting to the holes in the blob of particles had the density of lead at very high
solar corona. Also tying in with the dec 21 solstice lunar speed, and would have stripped away a lot of
eclipse and jan 4 solar eclipse alignments and the atmosphere, but it crossed our orbital path four days
perihelion on the 3rd. ahead of the Earth - often called "The shot across the
Even if it is off by a couple of days it was a prettty good bow"
call. Maximum stress in something like an earthequake
event is a slow buildup sort of thing. it can linger at a Then the solar winds stopped ! for days it did not exist !
tipping point for a while before it snaps. All the scientists I heard or read said the same thing :
What the hell, and how - I said BINGO - my long sought
answer.

No solar winds, no damage to dna. Also - the cosmic

Vincent Cataldi January 10 at 12:38am dust rich in iridium, if I remember right, which proved a
Roo : comet collision - is no longer needed to account for the
layer of dust.
A polar reversal is something that I have been eager to
learn about since 1970 - sorry to say - but there was a With no solar winds push dust out to a point of
Problem. Lava flow polarized magma as it cooled and equilibrium, begins to be drawn back into the inner solar
these multiple sites around the world, and representing system gravitationally.
several historical flips, all showed that the change can
be very fast. I may be in error, because after the 31 CME event, there
was an estimated 51 on the far side of the sun, and that
Most 'science' today is not Science with critical thinking may have been the trigger event that stopped solar
you supply and I try to do - most of our group is better winds.
than most employed as 'scientists. [comets are still
called "dirty snow balls" when each one we have so far There is another Nancy Drew Clue to grossly simplify a
visited is a barren single rock with virtually no ice, but a Polar Shift, and it is discovery by Russians due to a Mire
bit of talc power fine dust. Still they refuse to Grow into Space lab disaster, and a test of their deep deep oil
the new knowledge and throw that dirty snowball into drilling equipment, and a school boy bet that they would
the Sun]. find oil wherever they drill, which they did, but they also
found a most odd, homogeneous material whose
The problem is that, although there is some level of properties were discovered in the lab made to study
extinction events with polar shifting, it is not so with a their Mire disaster - specifically an area (Room?) with no
polar reversal. This is the problem : how can dna survive electrical or magnetic field - no idea how.
uv (etc) when there is no magnetic field - and then they
go off to contort themselves and logic to allow a N-S to I will search this out better so I do not destroy my sober
S-N polarity flip with No 'off time'. reputation.

The answer to this question has pondered in my head But, Patricia : [thanks for stating clearly what your
for decades, so when I found the most likely possible traditions tell you, sharing is both kind and appropriate -
answer a year to two back - I smiled for weeks ! IMO]. Question : are the tribes now digging protective
temporary shelters into the earth, with about five feet of
Our SUN went nuts and had a tsunami 10K miles high soil above their heads, a place to protect from the sun
that engulfed the sun very phricken fast (unless video for two weeks or so?
was FF).
This homogeneous material the Russians at All deep well
The 'trigger' event was a coronal mass ejection in sites below the crust and above the mantel it turns to
reverse - initially. As we studied the sun for CMEs one near liquid under certain physical parameters and just
came over our shoulder and smacked the sun - WTHell might act as a bearing to allow a sliding change of the
was that and where did it come from, beyond Jupiter crust with no significant pressure on or against angular
was the NASA guess. Within days Comet Homes was momentum of most of the Earths mass.
found poking its' head out from behind Jupiter and it
was generally accepted that this was the trigger source. No answers here, but it does force eyes to open wider to
It is now classified as the largest object ever in the solar new possibilities - and it is simple and elegant - although
system. wholly a mystery! Amazing what I am willing to consider
that was unthinkable a decade ago ... :)
The large CME that pounded the sun added such chaotic
harmonics into the the sun, that it spit out a CME
Vincent Cataldi January 10 at 1:35am Patricia Howard January 10 at 1:52am Reply •Report
Patricia: I lost the story on the kids gone wild - but it is
interesting, and you got a bad report.

A bunch of kids went to the mall to PLAY freeze tag -

two dozen of them. What is interesting is that they
Teen Mob Crashes Upscale Milwaukee Mall; 911 Callers
organized it on Twitter or Facebook - and a private Describe Scene
security firm had their names and checked ids at the www.aolnews.com
doors - those who agreed to go were never allowed in, The phone calls paint the scene at an upscale suburban Milwaukee
and no looting, and no customer interaction, and - shopping mall that went into lockdown last weekend after more
perhaps a story to argue the value of Big Brother than 100 teenagers charged through stores, knocking down racks
monitoring of the internet - remember the User ID for and stealing clothing, in a disturbance that the mall manager said
was planned via a social media site such as
internet story two or so days back ? This was over the Share
line a bit, but innocent fun - in a safe place.

Patricia Howard January 10 at 1:55am Reply •Report

Vincent Cataldi January 10 at 1:37am
OMG! That Colleen makes my ass twitch!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/report-
obama-administration-plans-create-internet-id- The story is not new, but her less panicked demeanor is
americans/ ...

She's the one who says that aliens are coming to attack
us .... and they are flesh-eating reptilians!
Obama Administration Reportedly Plans to Create Internet
ID for All Americans
www.foxnews.com
President Obama is putting plans in motion to give the Commerce
Department authority to create an Internet ID for all Americans, a Vincent Cataldi January 10 at 1:55am
White House official told CNET.com. CDC Phosgene | Public Health Emergency Preparedness
Share
& Response
Information on phosgene, a potential agent for chemical
terrorism. Provided by the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention (CDC).
Vincent Cataldi January 10 at 1:45am www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/phosgene/ - Cached - Similar
Is this new ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6R5__V9uls
CDC Phosgene | Public Health Emergency Preparedness &
Phosgene deaths of bids, fish and people per Colleen Response
Thomas www.bt.cdc.gov
www.youtube.com Information on phosgene, a potential agent for chemical terrorism.
The widespread deaths, no matter what else you hear about the Provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
cause is from toxins taken from Iraq. America had complied with Share
agreements not to use chemical warfare in the past but our
shadow government hidden in our Military Industrial Complex
found a caveat, confiscation of such warfare from a na
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Vincent Cataldi January 10 at 1:59am
thanks

Patricia Howard January 10 at 1:51am Reply •Report

Yes, I remember that. ARGH! It was an AOL story that I
posted. Guess they blew it out of proportion. Roo Reindeer January 10 at 2:06am Reply •Report
Vincent: pressure to provide a 'solid" shift. GM's was designed to
I go along with the possibility of what you mention. decrease under pressure to provide a "smooth" shift.
Solar CMEs on a massive scale can certainly affect us. Many people went to the hospital or morgue after bar-
Probably have. side "discussions" of the relative merits of Ford or Chevy
automatic transmission characteristics.
However as far as "and then they go off to contort The smart people on both sides of the Ford/Chevy line
themselves and logic to allow a N-S to S-N polarity flip both stuck with 4 speeds and avoided the issue.
with No 'off time'"
If the slick layer here has GM characteristics I would say
The idea of "no off time" is supported from two we are in trouble. Because if severe shear tends to
directions. develop the viscosity will drop allowing even more slip. A
bad trend in a situation where there is no clutch control
1) Whenever the sun's field flips that is exactly what it algoritm built into the device as there is in a
does. It develops a multipole configuration. Going from transmission.
a strong dipole in one direction to a general mess then Once you reach a certain point all the friction pretty
re-developing the strong dipole in the reverse direction. much goes away. The outer crust will then shift to
It never shuts off in the middle. Just breaks up into minimise the moment of inertia of the crust. Which is a
smaller randomly oriented dipoles that create a chaotic lot easier to do then shifting the whole earth's axis.
resultant before re stabilizing. Why... no one really I think previous geographic pole shifts have occurred
knows the details. But "shutting off" would require the this way.
termination of all movement of conductive material. Not But I am more inclined to attribute their initialization to
likely. The rotation never stops. external near collisions with planetary sixed objects, a la
Velikovsky, torqueing the equatorial bulge of the earth.
2)If you look at the theoretical models of the earths Torqued past a certain point the "GM fluid" allows the
geodynamic field these same multipole transitions slippage.
develop. So the theory and the data both show this no
off time transition. But then I was always on the TurboHydromatic side of
those bar fights.
Even though the data is from the sun, where the flips i also once won a hundred dollar bet by proving a front
occurr fast enough and often enough to monitor and the wheel drive '68 El Dorado can pop a wheelie in reverse.
models involve the earth, the underlying principle behind Something no one else ever even seemed to consider
the rotational electromagneto hydrodynamics is similar. possible, since there was of course no use in doing one.
Who drag races in reverse with only one gear?
There are good animations here. That was easy money.
http://www.psc.edu/science/glatzmaier.html

That site is linked from here:

http://es.ucsc.edu/~glatz/geodynamo.html WHEN NORTH GOES SOUTH: Three-Dimensional
At the bottom: "Geodynamo Computations at the Simulation of Geomagnetic Field Reversal
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center" www.psc.edu
The lava catches Earth's magnetic field in the act of reversing
Linked from the bottom of the NASA site; itself. Magnetic north heads south, and -- over about 1,000 years -
- the field does a complete flip-flop. While the Oregon data is
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/29dec controversial, Earth scientists agree that the geological evidence
_magneticfield.html as a whole -- the "paleomagnetic" reco
"The geodynamo" Share

On the deep oil layer;

That idea of a slippery layer underlying the crust has
possibilities.
I tend to distrust a lot of Russian data, they can be Patricia Howard January 10 at 2:08am Reply •Report
VERY sloppy sometimes. But that doesn't mean they I'm sorry, Vince. I didn't mean to upset you. Maybe
can't hit a bullseye once in a while. she's right, I don't know?
What I would really like to know, but I doubt if they
checked because of their sloppyness, is if the viscosity of
the material varies directly or inversly with the pressure.
Roo Reindeer January 10 at 2:09am Reply •Report
Years ago GM & Ford had different ideas on how an
automatic transmission should "feel". PS It only works with 68-70 models.
Ford fluid was designed to increase in viscosity under Don't bet on a later one. Not enough torque.
 I
f someone else can connect them ALL I am open minded
to other ideas. But I don't think showing fifty birds were
Patricia Howard January 10 at 2:22am Reply •Report actually run over by a truck in one instence or whatever
I'm still laughing! :D Ya nut! proves anything. Like wise with any local deaths. Just
dis-info to seperate them in the public mind. Because if
they can really be connected together some one is
busted big time.

Roo Reindeer January 10 at 2:35am Reply •Report

The Phosgene is ALL crap.
Total disinfo. Period. Patricia Howard January 10 at 2:58am Reply •Report
It in no way manner or form addresses the world wide
nature of these events. It started with that russian Yes, and JPF didn't address the trauma found at all. I'm
story...again....!!?!!?! still right there with you on that one, Roo. I am
about the dumpster dude death. Totlal crap from square convinced it's the EM, piezoelectric, ultrasound,
one. sweeping around the earth. The evidence that feathers
We already went over that..... crap. It didn't kill the can be piezoelectric conductors was what sealed the
crabs in England or the clams in Italy or the fish in Brazil deal in my mind. It made the connection between the
or... or ...or ...or etc. Crap. birds and fish.
Sorry if i sound redundent. But it was not Phosgene or
there would have been a million dead squirrels, cats,
people, rabbits etc. Not just one species of bird either or
... or ...or or. Roo Reindeer January 10 at 3:07am Reply •Report
This has been covered.
Oh yeah, the weather and the EQs too
Thank you.
Almost forgot.
I will now shut up about phosgene.
Now if I could just tie in the dinosaurs :-D

Roo Reindeer January 10 at 2:36am Reply •Report

Patricia Howard January 10 at 3:30am Reply •Report
Where did my crust slippage note go?
Now I'd like to tie in the cat and toast experiment. I
really think it has something to do with the Norway
Spiral.

Roo Reindeer January 10 at 2:37am Reply •Report

Sorry found it. Boy am I slipping.
Roo Reindeer January 10 at 3:49am Reply •Report
The cat did present a similar aspect.
But yellow/green spiral rather then blue/green.
Patricia Howard January 10 at 2:42am Reply •Report I am glad I diidn't have to clean up after the Norway
That's what I don't understand about David Sereda's incident.
theory that all of this is because of methane from the Also glad I never had to deal with you know ewwww.
Gulf ... or methane PERIOD. Why isn't everything dying
if that were the case?

Patricia Howard January 10 at 4:04am Reply •Report

*giggles* Ewww!
Roo Reindeer January 10 at 2:51am Reply •Report
Exactly. Same with JPFs cancer. Or bird flu or hot water, I don't think it was a hole in spacetime that he tore.
cold water, dirty water, etc.
I am naturally blowing my own horn here, but EM,
piezoelectric, ultrasound, sweeping around the earth in
various hotspots is the only thing I see that will tie ALL Roo Reindeer January 10 at 4:51am Reply •Report
of them together. Birds, fish, shellfisn and ultrasonic
sensitive mammals.
I found this dealing with the weakening magnetic field. it) may go through zero, but the complex parts of the
It has a quote from Mark Twain about the dangers of field will be relatively high, and because of them, while
linear extrapolation in science which is always good to the overall field will be weaker, it won't vanish.
consider. FAQ: "The Great Magnet, the Earth"
www.phy6.org
Questions about the Earth's magnetism, received from web users;
http://www.phy6.org/earthmag/magnQ&A1.htm#q6
with answers
"The magnetic field of the Earth changes all the time, Share
and yes, magnetic charts have to be redrawn from time
to time (this was first found in 1641, by an Englishman
named Gellibrand). And yes, in the century and a half
since the first careful mapping of the Earth's field, the
dipole has become weaker by about 8% (the rate may Patricia Howard January 10 at 10:34pm Reply •Report
have speeded up in 1970). If you draw a straight line So could it be possible that the chemtrails are in
through the points, you will find that perhaps 1200 years response to the change in the earth's magnetic field?
from now, the line goes through zero.

Extending straight lines too far beyond the present,

however, is risky business, as noted by no less a
scientific authority than Mark Twain. In "Life on the Roo Reindeer January 10 at 11:29pm Reply •Report
Mississippi" Twain noted that the Mississippi river was It's possible but I don't think so. Some of them seem to
getting progressively shorter (mainly by floods--and by be fine metal powder, aluminum and barium most of the
people--creating shortcuts through bends in the river) sites claim. But I think that is related to conventional
and he wrote: over the horizon radar or HAARP. If there is a
connection I don't see anything obvious.
"Now, if I wanted to be one of those scientific people,
and "let on" to prove what had occured in the remote
past by what had occured in a given time in the recent
past, or what will occur in the far future by what has
Neil Plascencia January 10 at 11:40pm Reply •Report
occured in late years, what an opportunity is here! ...
Please observe: Could it be that we've been wrong all along? What if we
In the space of one hundred and seventy six years the are really in a global cooling, hence all the low temps
lower Mississippi has shortened itself two hundred and and snow around the world and they are using these
forty-two miles. That is an average over a mile and a chemtrails to keep the heat inside our planet?
third per year. Therefore, any calm person, who is not
blind or idiotic, can see that in the lower Oolitic Silurian
Period, just a million years ago next November, the
lower Mississippi was upward of one million three Roo Reindeer January 11 at 1:13am Reply •Report
hundred thousand miles long, and stuck out over the
Gulf of Mexico like a fishing rod. And by the same token It could be that the chemtrails are designed to affect
any person can see that seven hundred and forty years global temperature. That has been a claim all along. The
from now the lower Mississippi will be only a mile and original idea from Edward Teller was to cool the planet
three quarters long, and Cairo and New Orleans will by reflecting the suns rays, to counteract greenhouse
have joined their streets together, and will be plodding effects. If the earth were actually cooling I supposer that
comfortably along under a single mayor... There is changeing the formula of the chemicals to allow light in
something fascinating about science. One gets such and trap the infra red going out, like a greehouse gas is
wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling supposed to do, could reverse that trend as well. In
investment in fact." principle if it is capable of working in one direction it
could work in the other.
It is not impossible that the magnetic field will go
through zero 1200 years from now, but (judging by the Without a detailed analysis of the chemicals, areas
past record of reversals) not likely. In any case, the field effected and so on it would be hard to know just what
is not going away: a "flux preservation theorem" they are doing. '
suggests this is not happening (at least not on the Untill recently it wasn't even acknowledged that it was
relatively fast time scale of observed variations of the even happening. It is still officially denied, but the
field; see here). In agreement with that theorem, one evidence and complaints from Europe, Russia and China
finds that while the dipole field is getting weaker, the are starting to make waves. If it finally gets "outed"
complicated parts are getting stronger. That's why I beyond a doubt then that kind of detailed analysis can
wrote "yes and no." During a reversal the two-pole be started. But it is hard to do when still in the total
(dipole) component of the field (which now dominates denial stage.
 He may have hit on a connection between ionosphere
and seismic activity that is woth following up on.

Roo Reindeer January 11 at 2:52pm Reply •Report

In this post from Neil I noticed an interesting comment:

"Hi I am An Aerospace Electro/Mechanical engineer and Weather radar shows something unusual around time
birds fell - todaysthv.com | KTHV | Little Rock, A
live in Hot Springs Arkansas. www.todaysthv.com
I would like to give you some information I have been NORTH LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- A weather radar screen doesn't just
following sense early December 2010 show the weather, apparently. The National Weather Service in
When I saw a news flash on yahoo about a crack in the North Little Rock examined a speck on the radar that showed up
northern geomagnetic field see the link below. around the same time hundreds of birds fell out of the sky from
alleged trauma on New Year's Eve.
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http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/20
03/1203image_cluster.html

At first I was concern so I started tracking Spaceweather

now to see if there were any increase in solar activity Patricia Howard January 11 at 3:26pm Reply •Report
but was surprised that the sun was calm, however I Nice find, Roo! Dang, you have good eyes. I need to
check this site daily up to today and only found slight make it a habit to start reading some of those
elevations in the sun activity which also puzzled me. comments. It definitely sounds like something to follow
up on. :)

So I starter looking at local anomalies that could account

for such a reaction to the birds being affected and I
found that different region have higher level of magnet
fields and appear the Little Rock and Beebe area falls in Roo Reindeer January 11 at 5:05pm Reply •Report
one area that has a positive charge nanotesla field at The key is whether or not HAARP can generate these
1000 feet elevation colored in red which would attach holes artificially.
the negative charged solar winds electrons and ions. see As opposed to their only being a natural sun created
link: phenomenon.
If they can be generated it is one more way they can
http://pubs.usgs.gov/ds/352/arkla.html mess with things but make it look natural.
other State
Mapshttp://crustal.usgs.gov/projects/namad/state_listin
g.html

Conclusion Patricia Howard January 11 at 5:26pm Reply •Report

The crack is rotating as seen in Auroral Activity That's what I'm wondering. Why are we having such
Extrapolated from NOAA observations on the sun side of great changes all of a sudden?
the earth were high energy particle enter the
atmosphere and spread around to the dark side of earth I'm going to go out on a limb again and I'll probably
and are distributed across the hemisphere then to space never hear the end of it, but ..... we are coming to the
and create a snapping of magnetic field lines which can end of a cycle. Whether or not people believe in
induce brief hi current and lighting. And as I recall we prophecies ..... there's no denying that our bodies, our
had a coronal hole and coronal ejection earth bound on environment, the universe, life in general - all go
the December 30/31 2010. through cycles. Is this just a natural pattern within the
Sense the timing of the fire works may have masted the cycle and HAARP has nothing to do with it?
lighting and thunder it is very possible that this event
and other similar die offs could have been caused by the
Crack in the Geo magnet shield and localized in areas of
hi absorpsion on earth.
Roo Reindeer January 11 at 6:27pm Reply •Report
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/AnimateN.html Nope :-)
Cycles happen. Species go extinct. Plagues wipe out
Allway enjoy your work people.
Ken Lowe " But there is no doubt who killed the buffalo.
Or who put smallpox in blankets.
Or who is dicking around with vacines that no longer
protect people as earlier ones did, but induce 'sleeper' Here is Dionna's take. Not sure if it's possible, but
diseases. something to consider anyways. Peak oil? Ethanol?
Or who is setting agriculture up for a collapse with Maybe?
monoculture and GMOs.
ETC I have been looking at Queensland a little closer. You
Who... people. Not the universe at large. know, if I were a scum bag with a device like H.A.A.R.P.
I find it suspicious that these thing happen just when I would use it to manipulate the market and get rich.
humanity happens to aquire the technology that can About the Raw Sugar Market
make them happen. http://www.queenslandsugar.com/page.cfm?pageid=18
A little too coincidental. 2
Like AIDS turning up just a few years after it was Expansion of sugar cane ethanol production in Brazil:
discovered that certain alleles in the dna of organisms http://www.tamu.edu/classes/tpd8/BICH407/Brazilenvso
are indicative of immunity aquired long ago to certain c2.pdf
diseses. Then it was discovered how to reverse engineer So with Queensland's sugar production now destroyed
viruses to attack dna that did not have specific alleles. and Brazil using the bulk of their sugar production to
The a CIA director with a long family history of create ethanol...you just took the first and second
supporting "eugenics" happens to be in the right place highest of sugar cane exporters of sugar for
at the right time. Five years later AIDS is in the news. consumption out of the picture. Oh and with Monsanto
With a convienient subset of individuals basically cornering the market on genetically modified seeds, well
immune. with them seizing crops and land of neighboring
Supposedly a new disease from monkeys in Africa.... farmers, whom once had regular corn crops but then
right. lost them to the Monsanto confiscation of them because
But NW Europeans are the ones with the immunity of copy right infringement due to cross pollination. It
allele. sounds like there will be allot of reallocation of wealth
both in corn production and sugar exports, this might
Could all the current changes be natural? Sure. even be the edge that Monsanto needs to push more
But if they are not they must be stopped. because no high fructose corn syrup in to consumption due to the
one can be allowed to mess with things on that scale for drastic decrease in sugar export for consumption? Thank
their own purposses. you H.A.A.R.P.
The only way to do that is expose them. If that can be http://www.tamu.edu/classes/tpd8/BICH407/Brazilenvso
done. c2.pdf
Maybe it can't. www.tamu.edu

Are some good guys trying to mess with things to try QLD Sugar
www.queenslandsugar.com
and prevent a naturally occurring catastrophy? It's
The raw sugar market is comprised of sugar derived from both
possible. But keeping that secret still implies a hidden sugarcane and sugarbeets. Production of sugar from sugarcane
agenda solely for their benefit. accounts for over 75% of all sugar produced in the world today
The balance is produced from sugarbeets, usually directly into
Are they trying to initiate a last ditch disaster scenario to edible white sugar. Of all the sugar produced fr
prevent an awakening of a continually more educated Share
and aware citizenry worldwide? Maybe (more likely in
this cynics view) but all the more reason to find out.

If it is all natural and unstoppable, fine. Shit happens. Patricia Howard January 11 at 7:53pm Reply •Report
But if it is not natural, or if it is stoppable then people
More from Dionna -
have a right to know. Not just the elite who keep it
secret "for our protection".
Monsanto and other agrochemical/genetically modified
seed companies that target corn crops may also feel the
positive effects of an ethanol boom
http://www.wikinvest.com/commodity/Ethanol
Patricia Howard January 11 at 7:44pm Reply •Report I rest my case...there is a trail of seeds and it leads right
I catch your drift. BUT, why hasn't this been happening to Monsanto, whom ever controls the food, and energy,
on a global scale and with the same frequency as in controls the world!
recent days? If it was totally HAARP, why now?

Commodity:Ethanol
www.wikinvest.com
Patricia Howard January 11 at 7:51pm Reply •Report
The largest investing wiki with research on hundreds of There has to be a trial period to work out the bugs and
companies, investment concepts, and more. modify as necessary. NOTHING ever works right off the
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drawing boards on this scale. Earlier runs may have
been hit or miss. Even if they worked there was not
enough events to see the pattern. If they are just now
getting up to speed it would account for the sudden
Patricia Howard January 11 at 8:55pm Reply •Report increase in actions that are noticible. The weather
Birds Fall From Sky In California, Thousands Of Dead modification and eatrhquake producing capability may
Fish Found In Chicago just now be maturing from an engineering prototype to
1/11/2011 a practicle device.
There are also political and military motives that dictate
the useage of such technology. The use of such things
must be co-ordinated with the ability to exploit the
situation they create. It does no good to (for an possibly
Birds Fall From Sky In California, Thousands Of Dead Fish not so extreme example) kick off a mag 8+ on the New
Found In Chicago Madrid fault if you do not have the political and police
www.huffingtonpost.com structure in place to take advantage of the chaos and
Over 100 birds were found dead along a California highway this impose martial law in a way that furthers other agendas.
past weekend, and thousands of dead fish were reported along Just smashing things flat without prior planning to
Chicago's lakefront prior to that. A smaller incident of around 30
exploit it is a total waste and can lead to loss of power
dead birds was also reported in Missouri.
Share rather then it's consolodation.
Weather modification in other parts of the world to
create famine require the same advanced planning to be
properly exploited.
If someone had sent small pox over from Europe with
Roo Reindeer January 12 at 1:40am Reply •Report the Vikings it would have been a waste from the
Dionna's claim that the weather manipulation could be standpoint of aiding settlement. The Vikings went home.
used for economic gain is certainly true. That is one of Even if they had left smallpos infected blankets and a
many nefarious uses to which it could be put by a global large portion of the native population died it would not
cartel. Manipulation of the weather has economic and have helped them. The population would have
political as well as military ramifications. eventually recovered, as Europe's did from the plague.
Clauswitz said war is the continuation of politics by other By the time Columbus and others got here the natives
means. All of politics and economics and direct and would have had the same degree of resistence as the
covert military action can be used to gain the same ends settlers. So there would have been no advantage.
by different paths. Timing to take advantage of disaster is critical.
The same means, such as weather modification can be Opportunity seldom knocks twice.
used to futher all three ends. Modification of weather to
serve long term ends relateing to global distribution of
food producing areas for purposes of global genocide
can also be used as a means to short term economic
Roo Reindeer January 12 at 1:44am Reply •Report
gain as with the sugar situation outlined here. Iceing on
the cake. Like gold teeth from concentration camps... if Here is a site that seems to be keeping up with most of
you are going to kill people anyway where is the harm in the reports and consolidating them.
makeing a few bucks on the side? I can't vouch for the conclusions they may be reaching.
But the raw data reports seem to be comprehensive. It
Why now? looks like a good place to periodically check for patterns.
Maybe they could not do it as effectively untill recently.
These things take time to perfect. The theory behind
weather modification by HAARP like technologys may go
back to people like Tesla in the abstract. But no one
ever tried to actually do it untill the 90s. The devil is in The Big Wobble: RECENT WORLD WIDE! DEAD BIRDS AND
the details in any large scale engineering project. These FISH! THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!
things only get built and put into action overnight in Lex www.thebigwobble.com
Luthor mad scientist comic book fantasies. I just checked Google Maps. Labarre and Beebe, Arkansas--the
other place where it rained dead birds, are both on the 91 degree
The "idea" of sending someone to the moon in a rocket meridian. That's pretty spooky stuff.
goes back quite a way. The actual working out of details Share
and building an Apollo program took 40 years from
Tsiolkovsky to the V2, 25 more to a moon landing. They
have only about 25 years on actual HAARP activity.
 That was Bill, right?

Patricia Howard January 12 at 1:52am Reply •Report

Good report - it was dated January 4th. I know there are
(unfortunately) additions to that list now. But still good Vincent Cataldi January 12 at 4:10am
for a reference.
Back to serious again :

is this world wide reporting still birds, fish, and other sea
creatures only? Few or many bird species? Any
Vincent Cataldi January 12 at 4:02am mammals?
Patricia:
It almost looks like smoke to hide the original arson
RE: "Patricia Howard January 10 at 1:55am Reply • ignited fire
Report - on the fault - to divert suspicion of fault ... :)
OMG! That Colleen makes my ass twitch!

The story is not new, but her less panicked demeanor is

... Patricia Howard January 12 at 4:25am Reply •Report
Vince, the Mayans may have believed that the Gods
She's the one who says that aliens are coming to attack
would return as feathered serpents, but that doesn't
us .... and they are flesh-eating reptilians"
mean I do. :) lol
I understood that the Mayans (Hopi) expect the return
of the Gods (gods, ETs, what ever) and that they are
feathered serpents.
Patricia Howard January 12 at 4:26am Reply •Report
Help me understand please. **giggles**

"**They were in the water because the Quiché

associated the name Gucumatz with the liquid element.
Bishop Núñiez de la Vega says that Gucumatz is a
serpent with feathers, which moves in the water. The Patricia Howard January 12 at 4:31am Reply •Report
Cakchiquel Manuscript says that one of the primitive So far no mammals. That's the kicker! No amphibians.
peoples which migrated to Guatemala was called
Gucumatz because their salvation was in the water." Only birds (several species), fish (several species), and
mollusks. The bats I'm skeptical about because that
Sounds like they appear to be reptilian entities from seems to be another cause (mold or disease).
outside of this world - although I have heard 'theories' of
how they look like this as the exit from a star-gate I still suspect a few of the occurances don't fit into the
portal. It is a bit of a swallow me - but I try to keep all general pattern and are being included by default or
options open unless proven false. I was a little surprised may be "accidentally on purposely" happening -- if you
by your response, but was too busy to address this till catch my drift?
now.

Honestly - if I have read 10% of what you all are writing

I am lucky - perhaps I could retire, and read for my
retirement hobby to catch up ... :) Roo Reindeer January 12 at 5:29am Reply •Report
Birds in the air are subject to the tornados. Fish and
shellfish to the ultrasound. Most mammals are on land
and subject to neither. But the 3 mammals that may
connect in are ultrasound sensitive and either fly or live
Vincent Cataldi January 12 at 4:04am
in the water. Bats, whales, dolphins.
Roo: I agree the bats are probably a case of disease. When
they come out of hibernation in the spring it will be
"Roo Reindeer January 11 at 6:27pm interesting to see if they start dropping like birds. With
... either the body trauma or "unknown" causes.
But there is no doubt who killed the buffalo." The whales and dolphins haven't shown up in this
cluster of sightings yet. Maybe HAARP has changed it's BUT HERE IS THE KICKER THAT LETS THEM DENY
tune to another key. EVERTHING!
THEY are NOT generating a 45 khz wave. they can
The frogs started dying a while back. Could be another swear it on a stack of bibles true, true, true. What is
factor there too. On the other hand have frogs been more important is that you will not detect any 45 kHz
jumping out of the water lately, as they often due before wave with a reciever tuned to that frequency either. IT
earthquakes. Getting out of the water may reduce the IS NOT THERE IN THE AIR (or space).
level of ultrasound to a safe level for them. The fish It is only generated when the two waves interact in a
don't have the option. The crabs and clams do, and try NON LINEAR medium. Then they "MIX" producing sum
and get out. But as I said before they are trapped in and difference frequencies.
their piezo shells.
Lack of mammal deaths on land and amphibian deaths This methof of "mixing" radio waves is the basis of
both support my suppositions if only in the negative. operation of most rf gear. Inside the reciever the
"mixing" is forced to take place in a special circuit to
produce a lower "intermediate" frequency that can be
more easily handled and amplified.
Patricia Howard January 12 at 5:48am Reply •Report The piezoelectric crystals ARE nonlinear. So if they are
excited by 2 HAARP waves 45Khz apart THEY
GENERATE THE 45 KHZ WAVE.
It does not exist untill the mixing takes place. In the
crystal.
So they can claim they are not transmitting waves in
that range, with a straight face.
More PROOF that H.A.A.R.P. is behind the mass deaths of
animals Pt.2
They can also claim that the waves they do generate in
www.youtube.com
PLEASE PASS THIS ON to ALL OF YOUR CONTACTS!!! Subscribe, the 3 to 300 MHz range are safe. Since they have been
and THANK YOU! This video is protected by The Copyright Act doing that for 70 years with various radio and TV
says that "fair use...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news transmitters and no one has been able to show they
reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), actually do cause harm. They probably don't. But the
scholarship, or research, is not an infringe ultasonic range frequencies are a different story because
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it is known that ultrasonic range sound waves do cause
damage. It can be claimed that ultrasonic range EM
waves do not cause harm. That may also be true unless
they are translated into mechanical sound waves.
Patricia Howard January 12 at 5:50am Reply •Report They can deny this happens. If you say that piezoelectric
You may as well fast-forward the above video to 6:20 crystals in animals can do this; they can say, well we
mins. It's pretty much BS-ing up to that point -- but the don't transmitt any waves in that region anyway so even
rest is worth watching. if you had a way of translateing them into sound there is
no EM wave there.
True again.
If you say but what if you transmit 2 high frequency
waves, they mix in a nonlinear chrystal, generate a
Patricia Howard January 12 at 5:59am Reply •Report difference frequency and the chrystal converts the EM
In Sweden - "ionospheric heater stations"? difference signal into sound? Which then cause damage?
They say there are a lot of suppositions there, you can
suppose anything past a point... what if you claim we
are sending out gremlins in the night ot flatten peoples
automobile tires? Are we supposed to respond to that
Roo Reindeer January 12 at 12:42pm Reply •Report nonsense. We can't prove a negative, even if we could
Here is a copy of a post on another thread because it prove we were not sending out gremilins, you would
applies here. say.. well OK but what about the goblins you train...
This sort of nonsense never ends, we have work to do,
HAARP does generate waves in the ultrasonic range by press conference over.
mixing 2 signals. If you have a 3 mega Hertz wave Media moves on to important asassination and celebrity
(3,000,000 cycles per second) and another one at say DUI news
3.045000 MHz (3,045,000 cps) they will create a beat
frequency at the diference... 45,000 hertz.
Roo Reindeer January 12 at 12:58pm Reply •Report
Very interesting data on the HAARP receiving station
locations. They would be useful in calibrateing the phase
relationships between the HAARP transmitters to insure USGS National Wildlife Health Center - Recent Mortality
a result at a certain point before running up to full Events
power. Like sighting artillery before firing for effect. www.nwhc.usgs.gov
If it is necessary to do this it would be possible to USGS and a network of partners across the country work on
documenting wildlife mortality events in order to provide timely
determine if HAARP was operating in a global
and accurate information on locations, species and causes of
interferometer mode by independent monitoring at these death. This information is used by natural resource managers,
same locations. If someone had a million or so to set up researchers, public health officials and legisla
monitors and staff them. Oh well... next time I win the Share
lottery I won't waste all the money...

Roo Reindeer January 13 at 4:51am Reply •Report

Roo Reindeer January 12 at 1:26pm Reply •Report Another good database and map.
New catagory added to this site: Mass dieoffs. I love the number of events catagorized as "other" "-)
RSOE EDIS - Emergency and Disaster Information Service
hisz.rsoe.hu
This is a Emergency and Disasters Information and monitoring
services. Hosted by National Association of Radio-distress
signalling and Infocommunications. Patricia Howard January 13 at 6:16am Reply •Report
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Hundreds of Dead Blackbirds Found Along I-65 In
Athens, AL
1/12/2011

Roo Reindeer January 12 at 1:31pm Reply •Report "What it appears to us right now is that the birds were
Also look at each one labled "biological hazard" click feeding alongside the road," said Mitchell Marks. "The
"read" and click "event description". flock flushed, flew out into a vehicle and we've got this
kill here along the road."

Yes, a "wildlife biologist" really said that hundreds of

blackbirds "flew into a vehicle."
Roo Reindeer January 12 at 1:33pm Reply •Report
"Additional information " tab even cross references other
incidents within 200km. Cool
Hundreds of Dead Blackbirds Found Along I-65 In Athens
www.whnt.com
Wednesday morning, we got a handful of emails and phone calls
from viewers who said there appeared to be a massive bird kill on
Patricia Howard January 12 at 10:54pm Reply •Report the side of Interstate 65 in Limestone County. That's exactly what
we found when we got there.
Excellent link, Roo! Thank you! Share

Here is a good timeline to keep as a reference.

Vincent Cataldi January 13 at 9:48am

By Spring 2011, we will have "Insect / Windscreen"
reports daily, categorized by state and county - and time
Timeline of recent mysterious bird, fish deaths
and wind direction.
www.naturalnews.com
Timeline of recent mysterious bird, fish deaths
Share Man, I bet we have a bug in the works, upcoming ... :)

Vincent Cataldi January 13 at 4:34am Roo Reindeer January 13 at 4:56pm Reply •Report
http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/mortality_events/ongoing.jsp
What about "radiator" reports?
If they ignore those it could lead to a massive
undercount.
Sounds like a potential coverup to me :-)

Earth's magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space

clouds linked to mysterious bird deaths
www.naturalnews.com
Patricia Howard January 13 at 4:59pm Reply •Report Earth's magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space clouds
linked to mysterious bird deaths
Sounds like a potential coverup to me too :-( Share

Patricia Howard January 13 at 5:26pm Reply •Report Vincent Cataldi January 13 at 7:11pm
Using a network of WSR-88D Weather Surveillance Sounds like Dis-Info to me !
Radars to Define Patterns of Bird Migration at Large
Spatial Scales The cloud would have had to be low, or birds would
http://virtual.clemson.edu/groups/birdrad/pubs/German have landed in larger pattern. Multiple species should
yMS.pdf
have been involved. Poisonous gas should have been
virtual.clemson.edu
Share found in toxicology reports. Fish don't eat birds. Etc...

I can not buy this, it is more likely something that Roo

wrote in those thirty pages ... :)

Roo Reindeer January 13 at 5:44pm Reply •Report

Another thing you have to watch for are oak trees flying
into vehicles.
Patricia Howard January 13 at 7:14pm Reply •Report
It seems to happen quite often. I think they are
attracted to the odor of alchohol. And fish aren't normally found near clouds.

Roo Reindeer January 13 at 5:56pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 13 at 7:14pm Reply •Report
Big Bird is Watching You. I just included the above article as more proof that
Can't fly anywhere without being spied on these days. disinfo abounds.
Well, at least the TSA doesn't molest birds, yet.

One more example of the amazing amount of data out

there. Also a good description of the real world Vincent Cataldi January 13 at 7:18pm
difficullties involved in getting it in a useful format. The
RE: Bird Migration -
truth is out there. Just buried under mounds of shit.
I long ago did research on and learned about all the
birds that winter in the Amazon and summer up here.
They amass on the north coast of S. America in the tens
Patricia Howard January 13 at 5:59pm Reply •Report of millions, and like a starter pistol starts a race - the
Don't let 'em touch your junk, Roo! head for Texas, which allows for the winds to catch sight
of land by Florida. These flocks are watched on radar
and airlines are diverted around them for safety of the
people. Once they make it to land - the skyscrapers are
the hidden hazard. How can a little finch do this ?
Patricia Howard January 13 at 6:27pm Reply •Report
Earth's magnetic pole shift unleashing poisonous space
clouds linked to mysterious bird deaths
Thursday, January 13, 2011
Roo Reindeer January 13 at 7:21pm Reply •Report
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Our own FEMA is bad enough. I'm inclined to think less
of the Russian version.
But like all dis-info there might be a message.
Those high altitude clouds do exist and might have some CONTAMINATION OF WSR-88D VAD WINDS DUE TO
toxic content. Although unlikely. The pressure is so low BIRD MIGRATION:
that the total amount of material is small. But at some A CASE STUDY
point it may be possible to create a vortex that would Bird Migration and the WSR-88D
funnel the material from a large high altitude area into a www.erh.noaa.gov
2. RADAR-DERIVED WINDS The WSR-88D measures Doppler
small ground footprint. A reverse tornado. This has
radial velocity within a sample volume and converts the
weaponization potential. But it would be a stretch. I information through a series of algorithms into many derived
don't see it being the case here. But maybe the Russians products. Wind information is processed by the VAD algorithm.
were just leaking the idea. The processed information is displayed as wind velocity and direc
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Patricia Howard January 13 at 7:22pm Reply •Report

Patricia Howard January 14 at 1:47pm Reply •Report
And the fish?

Roo Reindeer January 13 at 7:27pm Reply •Report

Wait till we hear about the die offs of flying fish.
That should confuse the issue :-) GTFO!!! Important!!! Urgent!!! HAARP+MAJOR
WORLDWIDE SEISMIC ACTIVITY!!!
www.youtube.com
Please VISIT my site:http://patrioticspace.whynotnews.eu/ I have
no words to describe how floored I am to see this MAJOR
UNHEARD OF ACTIVITY! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PASS THIS ON
Vincent Cataldi January 13 at 7:51pm AS THIS IS MAJOR!!!!!!!!!!! Credits go to YT user
When Pigs Fly ? HAARPwillNOTbeSILENT for the HAARP signal clip. Check out his
[thats how I learned the poem] channel! S
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Patricia Howard January 14 at 1:48pm Reply •Report
Pink Floyd - Pigs On The Wing Mmmm .... Missouri .... interesting .... :)
www.youtube.com
Pigs on the Wing is a two-parted song by the progressive rock
band Pink Floyd from their 1977 concept album, Animals. On the
8-track cartridge release (which looped), Parts 1 and 2 were linked
by a guitar bridge performed by Snowy White. Patricia Howard January 15 at 11:58am Reply •Report
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Vincent Cataldi January 13 at 8:05pm

Mass fish death recorded in Caspian Sea | Incident |
... :) en.trend.az
Mass fish death was recorded in the Iranian sector of the Caspian
Sea," Iranian Gulistan Province’
s Nature Conservation Department
Deputy Head Mohsen Jafarnejad said.
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Patricia Howard January 13 at 8:54pm Reply •Report
This article describes how bird migrations in Western
New York and Southern Ontario produce errors in the
radar-derived winds on Buffalo's WSR-88D weather Patricia Howard January 15 at 6:21pm Reply •Report
radar. For more information on how our weather radar
Now we can add Los Angeles to the list.
detects bird migrations and early morning "bird rings"
produced by feeding fowl, you can click on our "Birds
and Radar Page".
 Hundreds of dead seals in Labrador | Sympatico.ca News
371 Dead Birds Fall from Sky on LA's Sunset Blvd; Similar news.sympatico.cbc.ca
to California, Arkansas, Louisiana Bird Dr People on the north coast of Labrador say scores of dead seals
www.associatedcontent.com have been washing ashore since early December.
Dead birds fall from sky in Los Angeles, California; the chaotic Share
scene of death happened on Sunset and Cahuenga. Dead birds
have fallen from the skies over California, Alabama, Louisiana,
Kentucky, Sweden, Italy, and other places around the world.
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Roo Reindeer January 18 at 10:34pm Reply •Report
Some seals have hearing sensitivity up to about 22 kHz
in air.
Neil Plascencia January 15 at 6:23pm Reply •Report But in water, as high as at least 128kHz.
As high as whales and dolphins.
I believe this is in Wisconsin......
One more ultrasound tie in.

http://books.google.com/books?id=5dN7NaEN38YC&pg
=PA96&lpg=PA96&dq=hearing+sensitivity+of+seals&so
urce=bl&ots=arCn0ZSQz9&sig=otLL0cIhIANyRBoj9ipous
200 Dead Cows Found in Portage County Field
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Patricia Howard January 15 at 6:29pm Reply •Report Roo Reindeer January 18 at 10:35pm Reply •Report
Yes, it was and I am fairly certain it is just a respiratory scroll down to page 97 on that link.
virus. This case is not consistent with the others. Text is right above the graph of the air sensitivity.

Livestock often get pneumonia-like respiratory problems,

especially in the Winter and it's very contagious.

Patricia Howard January 18 at 10:36pm Reply •Report

Yeah, this wasn't like the other cases that we've been
hearing about of the seals washing up with the
Roo Reindeer January 15 at 6:37pm Reply •Report "corkscrew" gashes in their bodies. This is altogether
Sunset & Cahuenga. different.
West Hollywood area.
Gay section of town.
Dum-de-dum-dum
Dum-de-dum-dum-dum
Roo Reindeer January 18 at 10:49pm Reply •Report
Those corkscrews were 99% probable propeller injuries I
think.
I don't know what killed these, but the ultrasound
Patricia Howard January 15 at 6:44pm Reply •Report
sensitivity of seals puts them in the same risk catagory
LMAO! Damn gay Muslim birds get around, don't they, as whales & dolphins to sonar and any other military
Roo? Better watch your tail feathers ... :)~ sources of acoustic noise.
So I wonder how they correlated in time and place with
those Newfoundland birds. The time when these things
die is hard to connect to the time they are discovered.
They can be washed a long way by currents and stay
Patricia Howard January 17 at 7:44pm Reply •Report
near frozen a while. Can't estimate time of death too
Wish this report gave more details - closely I would imagine. Or exact place.
 I can't seem to understand why these deaths are
multiplying so rapidly now all over the world. This is
INSANE. I know there are a few cases we can rule out,
Patricia Howard January 19 at 12:02am Reply •Report but why just since the beginning of the new year are so
Roo, what about cephalopods? many of these species dying off in such large numbers?

Dead Octopuses Wash Up on Portuguese Beach Roo Reindeer January 19 at 6:46am Reply •Report
www.time.com Well... I am inclined to think HAARP related technology
Twelve hundred pounds of dead octopuses has locals worried and is just now, after 20 years of design work and 10 years
scientists scratching their heads
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of field testing, begining to work as a functional device
rather then an an engineering prototype.
Which also accounts for the weather and earthquake
surges.

Roo Reindeer January 19 at 5:51am Reply •Report Regardless of whether or not HAARP related technology
is involved, it is almost certain that the events all have
The frequency range seems to be unknown at present. some common denominator. That is just the one that
Research is ongoing with squid, but they do respond to seems most likely to me.
low frequency sound at least. Using a "statocyst" which I think the ultrasonic sensitivity aspect of all the aquatic
is the same sort of thing as an otolith... surprise. deaths is being totally ignored. Yet it is the only thing
I would assume octopi hearing organs are similar in they all have in common.
structure, they are the same order. I don't see solar storms or galactic alignment or chaotic
weather or any other natural cause having anything to
Although both are free swimmers, I believe octopi spend do with that.
more time on the bottom in corral dens or hidden in The weather and earthquake manipulation could cause
shells of dead spiral mollusks. Both piezo material. the ultrasound though.
Suspicious.
I think squid tend to swim in schools and spend less I said before that come springtime bats may start
time on the bottom. But I am not sure about them. dropping once they come out of hibernation. They may
start dying like birds of blunt force trauma from mini
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/0807282 tornadoes or they may suffer wack out episodes from
21125.htm disruption of their echo location ability.
http://www.brighthub.com/environment/science- Although without the proximity to ground currents and
environmental/articles/17291.aspx the added amplification sound effects in water they may
not have that problem. Then again they live in caves
http://www.science20.com/squid_day/tv_drives_giant_s which may lead to a greater effect then in the open air.
quid_research They will be good to watch for.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/e688661q3362226 At the very least they should be vulnerable to the same
8/ weather effects as birds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statocyst

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What Do Squid Hear? Scientists Learn How Sensitive The

What about the "spacequakes" article? Let me get the
Translucent Animals Are To Noise link .....
www.sciencedaily.com
The ocean is a noisy place. Although we don't hear much when we
stick our heads underwater, the right instruments can reveal a
symphony of sound. The noisemakers range from the low-
frequency bass tones of a fish mating ritual to the roar of a Patricia Howard January 19 at 6:54am Reply •Report
motorboat. The study of how underwater animals hear is a
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Aw cripes - can't open ANYTHING. I'm locking up ...
gotta restart. It's posted on my page.

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Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:10am Reply •Report I've applied for about a million grants in my lifetime,
ARGH! Rebooting yet AGAIN! Roo. Whatcha say we apply for funding and you quit
your job and concentrate on saving the world's
ecosystem? :-) I have a pretty good success record -
problem is finding a source who would fund this
"alternative" research. It would almost have to be an
Roo Reindeer January 19 at 7:15am Reply •Report independent source. It's not like the NIH or any other
Ah... if only I still had access to a good electronics lab. gov't source would even review an application like this.
I would send a message to that good old boy who first
brought up the "pearls" (otoliths) in that early video on
the AR fish deaths
and have him send me few dozen.
Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:26am Reply •Report
Set them up with a sensitive acoustic transducer and
amplifier in the 30-300khz range, see if they can pick up Over 600 in the US in the last 7 days.
and recieve/mix
RF intermodulation signals in the 3 to 10 Mhz range with Check out Alaska!
an offset of 30 to 300 khz.

Then stick them in the bottom of a creek and scan the

whole ultrasonic range of their output with a spectrum
analyser looking for an ultrasound signature. Let the
computer check the data continuosly. Latest Earthquakes in the USA - Last 7 days
Of course it may only show up in an area where the earthquake.usgs.gov
beams are targeted. That may be hard to know in USGS Earthquake Hazards Program, responsible for monitoring,
advance. But any clear signal would be very suspicious. reporting, and researching earthquakes and earthquake hazards
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It is possible that the level would only be deadly to fish
and other animals in a target zone but still might be
detectable in other areas with electronic amplification.
I can't think of anything natural that would generate
such a signal. Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:28am Reply •Report
Cripes! This is from 2009, but Sereda just posted this
That all might not make any sense to you. But it is really
one.
very simple to do. Just would take a few hundred grand
worth of instruments :-) and a couple of weeks or so of
playing around to verify that such a signal could be
picked up that way.
BBC News - Hundreds of whales die in New Zealand
Then just sit and let the computer do the listening. news.bbc.co.uk
|~[:>) Conservation workers in New Zealand have attempted to coax pilot
whales back into the sea, after they got stranded on a beach.
Just finding such a signal would be a good way to show Share
somebody's fooling around with something.

Once the initial detection concept was proofed additional

listening setups could be established for a few thousand Roo Reindeer January 19 at 7:29am Reply •Report
each. Maybe less.
I am not up to speed on modern ultrasound detection That process could be improved. Once the otolith
equipment. sensitivity was demonstrated it could be replaced using
All of that sort of data aquisition equipment has a conventional ultrasound transducer that had also been
plummeted in cost with the advent of "virtual shown capable of mixing/detecting RF signal
instruments" implemented in software. intermodulation products.
Maybe it could be done for under a grand. That would That would allow for repeatable calibrated
put it in the ballpark for worldwide amature action. Like measurements around the world. Which like
with the VLF hobbyists. seismometers could locate the source of the maximum
signal by triangulation. It might be possible to track it as
it sweeps and dwells. Then connect that to weather and
earthquakes.

Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:25am Reply •Report You can do a lot with time and money :-)
But I am not a Casino owner, so that leaves me out.
And they already know the answers, so they don't need number of folks trying to understand what's happening
to look. who would support funding. I would be willing to do the
grunt work. It's not like I have job to quit either. But I
have a pretty good track record when it comes to
obtaining funding. You would just need to write up the
abstract and materials and methods and budget to be
Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:31am Reply •Report considered. - I could do the grant writing and
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/07/080 application. I've been on both sides of the applications
724-auroras-lights.html process and have a clear understanding of what it takes
obtain funding.

"Spacequakes" Discovered in Earth's Upper Atmosphere

news.nationalgeographic.com
The space weather phenomenon swirls auroras and can spawn Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:54am Reply •Report
magnetic "twisters" that can knock out power lines, a new study
says.
Notice the whales beached themselves?
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Patricia Howard January 19 at 8:15am Reply •Report

Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:34am Reply •Report I just sent you another email.
But there has to be some independently weathly
philanthropist out there who also is concerned and
wants to know what's going on.
Roo Reindeer January 19 at 9:33am Reply •Report
That spacequake info looks like a minor case of that
theory about the solar typhoons. A short burst at a
Roo Reindeer January 19 at 7:41am Reply •Report much lower level then he predicts but the same general
I wish I had a job to quit :-) idea.
(never thought I would say that)
Yeah, getting grants for a crackpot scheme of that sort The whales and dolphins usually do beach themselves in
would not be too easy. Just about anyone with money is these incidents, and they often, although not always, do
not going to be interested in connecting these things up. not want to go back.
Like the clams in Italy. Toss 'em back in and they crawl
Then after showing it can be done there is the added right back out.
hassel with organizeing the network of monitors, data
servers, etc. The funding question is interesting. It might be possible
More time and money. With no guaranty of any return. but the devil as ususally is in the details. There would be
original research needed to prove the concept, then if
The whole idea could turn out to have no basis. If sucessful, the actual attempt at detection of any sort of
someone KNEW it was true and just needed to prove it signal in the environment. Then the necessity of a
to skeptics it might get funding. But as pure research I network of instruments and observers.
don't think anyone would go for it. The usual problem with this sort of thing is operational
funding for the observation phase. That tends to be
Of course if it is KNOWN to be true by certain people in open ended.
the scientific/trust-fund/grant community then even
submitting such a request could result in "special The other problem is that this is not "basement or
attention". garage" work.
To minimize costs you really need a lab environment
that is already functional. Setting something up from
scratch is very expensive.
People giving out grants usually deal with someone who
Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:51am Reply •Report is already affilliated with a research facility and is just
So we find somebody who is also working in this field looking to finance specific items and cover the overhead
with a good funding history and find out who is funding for personel. Not establish the research facility.
this indivual's work and apply in collaboration.
I could look into the feasibility of actually useing
I may be simplifying this whole issue, but think of the piezoelectric ultrasound transducers to detect RF
intermodulation.
In most cases the manufacturers go to great lengths to
prevent their transducers from doing anything but
picking up what they want to see. Everything else is
Agriculture Department testing dead birds found in north
"defined" as noise and desperately surppresed. So I
Alabama
would be asking them to sell defective instruments. blog.al.com
But that may cut the cost [:> Alabama's new agriculture commissioner, John McMillan, says
dead birds found recently in large numbers in two north Alabama
If that can be done then the original research may not counties will be tested at the State Diagnostic Lab in Auburn and
be necessary. Engineers always hate to "re-invent the the results on the cause of death should be known within a week.
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wheel".
So maybe this has already been done.

Getting money for a small number of instruments might

not be too difficult if it can be shown for little cost that Vincent Cataldi January 19 at 7:50pm
they can indeed pick up a signal if it is there. Regarding Grants : I am thinking it is crazy not to apply
to study my "Cnotta" discovery - it changes the world in
It could be doable. But it would be out of charcter for fundamental way and others have done the basics.
me to get too actually optimistic about it ;-)
Maybe... The Mayo Clinic did a R&D project that used a CAT scan
for hard parts, and a MRI for soft parts : then "auto
imported" the the bones into "Solid Works", a
mechanical engineering program - and the soft muscles,
Vincent Cataldi January 19 at 7:13pm tendons, etc were loaded into Maya, a rules based
program that imported the Solid Works data and they
I just bought the 20$ eqPro program - if any of you
had a real simulation. They used this to study the wrist,
want a copy (sweet program) send an email to me or
and reportedly were amazed by its complexity.
come up with another way to move it. We can use the
Yahoo Group Energetic Data - in fact we can use that
I wish to study a Yogo type - whole body - knotting, and
instead of these private fb messages - with data storage
all the players might be ready to look at such an R&D
:
project. If I did this, I do know of at least one Grant
Foundation that has a charter to do such Human
[email protected]
Betterment projects.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EnergeticData/
(this is so far only the best of the fb researchers
Would any of you be interested in a group participation
anyway)
EnergeticData : Energetic Data Research Institute
effort if I decide to push forward and bring my discovery
tech.groups.yahoo.com to the world?
EnergeticData: Energetic Data Research Institute
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Patricia Howard January 19 at 7:20pm Reply •Report Cnotta Research Institute: Description in Summary Vincent J
Good hearing from you Vince! I was beginning to worry Cataldi -- Milwaukee, Wisconsin Cnotta Research Institute, to be
about you going MIA since I didn't see you online last incorporated as a nonprofit organization, will engage in biomedical
research and the development of 'Expert System' products that
night. Thank you so much for the kind offer and for the promise to co...
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Roo Reindeer January 20 at 1:57am Reply •Report
38 more dead birds found in Alabama, this time
Scottsboro. Vincent:
I recall reading your proposal on the Cnotta project a
while back.
It sounded like an interesting idea. I would think it might
be possible to get funding on such a thing but obviously If the resolution of the neural scanning is sufficient it
not from anyone associated with the present may aid in diagnosis of the interconnected knotting. Also
medical/pharmachology establishment. in the monitoring of the progress of the therapy.

That sort of physiology based research is way out of my I have no idea apriori if anything would show up in this
line. But in the interest of complexifying things I can't regard with the present level of brain scanning
resist adding one more research idea. technology. The knotting interconnections at the
neuronal levle might be lost in the noise.
Along with the CAT scans to analyse the However if a project were initiated to study the knotting
skelatal/musculature interaction (as in the Mayo Clinic problem part of the proposal might be to look for any
study) while diagnosing and throughout the therapy to evidence of a correlation in the diagnosed knotting via
monitor progress may I suggest the following. CAT scans at a physical level and brain activity scans at
a neuronal level.
In conjunction with the CAT scan some sort of a PET
scan or similar technology to monitor and search for Sounds like a good job for artificial neural networks to
patterns in brain activity associated with the operation of analyse.
various muscle groups.
The portions of the brain relateing to control of
particular sections of the anatomy, leg, arm, fingers etc
have been fairly well mapped over the decades. If a
brain surgeon pokes a particular area on the surface of Patricia Howard January 20 at 2:17am Reply •Report
the brain he can be reasonably sure a left arm will twitch Vincent:
for example or a right foot. Of course the mapping at a
neuronal level is much more complex and That sort of physiology based research is way out of my
interconnected. Which brings up the Cnotting question. line. But in the interest of complexifying things I can't
resist adding one more thought to Roo's proposal. It is
Everyone knows that in some way or another nerves in true that nerves in the brain control muscle movement
the brain controll muscle movement, that is rather in a healthy spinal cord. However, in one that shows
obvious. But it is also known although much less well signs of demyelination (such as with MS patients) there
understood that feedback from muscle movement will be a loss of central and peripheral neuronal
establishes and strengthens connections between pathways.
networks of neurons.
In some cases paralysis has been mitigated by "training"
the brain to recognize repeated muscle movements
initiated by therapists and then work backwards to
Vincent Cataldi January 20 at 6:31am
activate the muscles. This back and forth "training" of
course is what happens in infanta and enables them to I'll take that as Two Yes(es) !
lern to do things like balance and walk. It would appear
that the ability to learn in that manner does not It is like 3-d computer programing, and debugging - an
completely die out with age but atrophies with disuse. awful lot of binary choices - that make something quite
complex. I do feel that I discovered the basic rules
I would think that the knotting that takes place within however, so once started, the choices are few - and
the muscles as you describe would be mirrored in the predictable.
neuronal connectivity of the brain at some level. As the
muscles knot the interconnected neurons should get It is an inwardly constrained 3-D geometry, with both
feedback from the knotted muscles and readjust tightly and loosely coupled parts - somewhat like a chain
accordingly (for better or worse). riding on a sprocket that has teeth smaller than the
chain - so it has 'slop', up to a point.
It is possible that the neuronal mirroring of the knotting
may be capable of detection with modern brain scanning It is really quite exciting, I can see you two getting
techniques during the movement of various muscle involved and quite pleased with what we can produce -
groups. Hell, Maya software for rule/law based simulations was
To give a somewhat oversimplified idea of the concept, my goal, and I jumped for joy when I found that they
assume that there is a knotted connection between hand used CAT to Solid Works, then MRI and Solid works into
and foot. Movement of the hand may show "crosstalk" Maya. You need to see some video I collected to learn to
with areas of the brain normally mapped to the foot. A use Maya - an amazing piece of software that follows
PET scan (or related technology) would show this the rules of nature.
activity in the "foot" area, where you would normally
expect nothing during hand activity.
Also note : there are no experts, we can grow into it, Moravia buffalo farmer Peter Head has lost 55 animals to a
and I suspect that I can begin a proposal to present to mysterious illness since October, but autopsies have shown no
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Brown University and the Mayo Clinic - and I can help
them understand why the wrist is more complex than
the initially expected. Once I get their interest, money
will be easy - and I can get the money contingent on the
joint venture - the cart before the horse. Vincent Cataldi January 21 at 11:46pm
Mad Cow is mysterious - prions always have been :
I also suspect I know where to go for grant funds to
allow us to build a simulation, because it has been done Prion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- I will find the article and send it later today - with a A prion is an infectious agent composed of protein in a
smile ! misfolded form. This is in contrast to all other known
infectious agents, which must contain nucleic ...
This is a project I thought I would never get a chance to Discovery - Structure - Prion replication mechanism - PrP
bring to humanity - but when I discovered it I knew it function
was my Job to make it understood to all. I am sure we en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion - Cached - Similar
have all we need to change the world, and feel good ►
about ourselves at a core level : All we need is Brains :
and I found you two : A humble base core too - a Bird It is said cows get mad by eating feed with cow brains in
BRAIN, and a Mayo Clinic researcher who still lives in it - I see the same problem in the wild deer, who are
town ... :) vegetarians, Elk, and who knows what else -- all point to
an Vast problem.

Prions are not alive and can not die, nor decay - Burning
Patricia Howard January 20 at 2:12pm Reply •Report a hospital only sends them down wind with smoke :
cement has been the best solution so far.
Make that two bird brains .... :)
Rant perhaps - the subject bugs me and threatens our
Just a few thoughts ...
food supply, physically and psychologically too. Intel
sources say Mad Cow is not rare - just quieted to keep
While Mayo most likely would be willing to integrate
panic in the bottle all corked up.
something like this into their physical rehab program
once accepted, I don't believe they would be a source
Note : Massive cow factories can hide the problem, the
for funding. Your best bet there would be the NIH - and
endangered small family farm will spot it in a flash - this
I would be willing to help with the grant application once
is a hint ... :)
you reach that stage. NIH funding is very competitive
now and is based to some degree on previous funding
accomplishments and publications. I wonder if it may be
a viable option to find a well-established
researcher/physician involved in this field to collaborate Patricia Howard January 21 at 11:59pm Reply •Report
with? They may also have access to CAT and MRI So they're just keeping this quiet by saying it was
equipment and other lab facilities. dehydration?
Also, remyelination studies are making great
advancements, so this could possibly (eventually) be a
breakthrough treatment for MS patients in crossing the
blood brain barrier and reestablishing neuronal Vincent Cataldi January 22 at 12:53am
pathways. Cow eat snow ! Lack of water was not the cause - could
have said "They all Fell Over !" - so what ! Remember
the animal abduction 'junk' are usually cows, usually the
best of Bull, and surgical removal of parts we can not do
Patricia Howard January 21 at 10:32pm Reply •Report in the civilian world...

55 buffalo is a big investment, and was sure to be

noticed - I'll bet no animals ate them either - just an odd
hunch. McBuffalo sale likely has nothing to do with it all.
Best not to eat them - also ... :)
55 buffalo die mysteriously on Moravia farm
auburnpub.com
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This is a no brainer... sorry about the pun. 9375&t=h&z=1
google "killing wild buffolo" 2011 Mass Animal Death* - Google Maps
One example. maps.google.com
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competition.
So they do everything they can to kill it off. Wild or
domesticated.
They used to mass poison sheep in the 19th century Patricia Howard January 22 at 5:38am Reply •Report
range war days. Now they don't use the open range
much because factory farms are cheaper. For cattle and I was just reading that one too but was afraid to say
sheep. But ANY potential competition has to be nipped anything about it because they're blaming the weather -
in the bud. but let's face it - it doesn't get that damn cold in
Vietnam.
Foul play, plain and simple. But this is a good time to do
it with the other dieoff publicity as a mask.

Sort of the reverse of killing a crowd to mask a single Vincent Cataldi January 22 at 1:17pm
asassination.
Assume more ugly 'special assignment' missions, aside :
Take advantage of the death of a crowd by other causes
The chem trail 'Primary' agents are aluminum oxide and
to cover one murder.
barium salts.
The Last Wild Buffalo
lastwildbuffalo.blogspot.com
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accumulate, and it may take time to move up the food
chain - but that alone can cause many of these 'events'.

A local event is usually ignored, until one knows to look

Vincent Cataldi January 22 at 4:13am for a global pattern - we are looking - some are cooking.
"Foul play, plain and simple." - I thought they were red This may have been normal for a while now.
wing black birds, then Bull of some sort of snort ... :)
Aluminum oxide has a valance of three, this causes
things to Clump - like red blood cells and white blood
cells - often used in water filtration plants to clump 'shitt'
so it drops to the bottom - ironically.
Patricia Howard January 22 at 4:31am Reply •Report
"We're going nuts down here trying to figure out what's Do TPTB have humor?
going on," he said. "This is going to put me out of
business. That's half my frickin' herd."

Maxim Karl Rice January 22 at 1:33pm Reply •Report

No, but they got "shitt"..........
Roo Reindeer January 22 at 5:33am Reply •Report
Interesting that water buffalo that are used in Vietnam
for agriculture, pulling plows and clearing land are dying
too.
Roo Reindeer January 22 at 2:08pm Reply •Report
I found this updated map in the comments section of Of course in Viet Nam there is alao the question of
this post put up by Neil on the Vietnamese deaths. ground saturation
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/10000- with agent orange and other toxins
cattle-dead-vietnam_n_812224.html?ref=fb&src=sp
One good way to force a switch to diesel powered
tractors.
Patricia Howard January 22 at 2:10pm Reply •Report McCormack Ambulance,
Good point, Roo. We're still suffering here from the They are also the largest chain mortuary. Since they do
rampant use of DDT during the 60s and 70s. not own hospitals I often though that they might not be
all that interested in getting you to the hospital in the
most expeditious manner.
But I am a well known cynic.

Patricia Howard January 23 at 11:49am Reply •Report I would think the ideal situation would be for Mc
Donalds to open an ambulance and hospital and
mortuary chain. That way they generate the business
and end up getting paid whether the ambulance gets
stuck in traffic or not.

Mystery as greenish-yellow goo falls from the sky in New Their motto could be:
York First class service from the griddle to the grave.
www.dailymail.co.uk
The FAA has launched an investigation after a mysterious But I would want the anti-trust people to keep an eye on
greenish-yellow goo fell from the skies and splattered homes in
them to make sure they are not tempted to get into
Snyder, New York on Tuesday.
Share some sort of Soylent Green operation.

Roo Reindeer January 24 at 9:07am Reply •Report Patricia Howard January 24 at 2:27pm Reply •Report
I like the Mc Donalds theory. Maybe that's where the (Soylent) "greenish-yellow"
It has that effect on me. discoloration comes from.
Look for more dead birds downwind.

Roo Reindeer January 24 at 3:40pm Reply •Report

Patricia Howard January 24 at 1:21pm Reply •Report Ewwwwwwww
I was holding back, but since you went there Roo,
McDonalds has the same effect on me (except the
"greenish" part). Totally plausible story IMO. Maybe the
real story that's being covered up here is the evils of Vincent Cataldi January 25 at 12:17am
McDonald's. Dumpster diving never has been a good
did that come out of a bird ?
idea.

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Patricia Howard January 24 at 1:22pm Reply •Report
Roo did it.

Roo Reindeer January 25 at 12:40am Reply •Report

Wall Photos II
Not all of it.
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Vincent Cataldi January 25 at 3:16am

Roo Reindeer January 24 at 1:48pm Reply •Report birds of a feather Flock,
In economics it is called vertical integration. I'm told ... :)

Here in L.A. the largest ambulance franchise is

 organs" anyways? I still have yet to find an article
stating this revelation.

Patricia Howard January 27 at 1:59pm Reply •Report

Final results are in. Better sit down for this one -- it's a
shocker. Patricia Howard January 29 at 3:46pm Reply •Report

Scientists Say 'Blunt Force Trauma' Killed Arksanas Paranoid Duck Convinced CIA Killing Off U.S. Bird
Blackbirds Population
www.aolnews.com www.theonion.com
Scientists investigating the death of thousands of blackbirds in TULSA, OK—Claiming with certainty that government agents were
Arkansas say they've identified the cause of death: blunt force behind the unexplained deaths of several thousand redwing
trauma. blackbirds in Arkansas this month, a mallard duck voiced
Share suspicions Tuesday that the CIA has conducted a decades-long
covert operation to decimate the nation's bird population.
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Vincent Cataldi January 28 at 12:44am

"saG pmawS" - by any other name, Patricia Howard January 29 at 4:12pm Reply •Report
is still Swamp Gas ... :)

Patricia Howard January 29 at 12:03pm Reply •Report Mystery of 200 Dead Cows in Wisconsin Solved
A lot of this going around ... www.aolnews.com
Authorities investigating the deaths of 200 cows in Wisconsin have
come up with an unlikely culprit: the sweet potato.
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John Wheeler Died From 'Blunt Force Trauma,' Medical

Examiner Says
www.aolnews.com Vincent Cataldi January 29 at 6:26pm
John Wheeler III, a defense consultant and former Pentagon Sweet Pea : sweet potatoes ??? Wholly Cows ... :)
official who was seen stumbling around Wilmington, Del. and
acting strangely days before his body was found in a landfill, was
beaten to death, the state medical examiner's office says. ... but why only 200 ? ... a limit of 400 potato eyes ?
Share Where the HELL is the protection from the 2010 Food
Safety & Modernazatuon Act - as promised by out
corrupted-congress ... :)

Vincent Cataldi January 29 at 3:07pm

BIRDS : red wing black birds with broken bones,
liquefied organs : Neil Plascencia January 29 at 7:01pm Reply •Report
they crashed into him in a suicidal attempt to keep their Hey Roo, is this
origins a secret ! THIS solves both 'problems' with one YOU???? http://comedy.video.yahoo.com/?l=3774749&v
theory !!! =8702935

Patricia Howard January 29 at 3:13pm Reply •Report Neil Plascencia January 29 at 7:02pm Reply •Report
LMAO! Sweet! Problem solved. You're brilliant Vincent! Oops, wrong
video http://comedy.video.yahoo.com/?l=3774749&v=8
Where the devil did people get the story about "liquefied 702935
 Roo Reindeer January 30 at 6:03pm Reply •Report
Neil:
No, that was a stand in for cousin Rudolph. Obviously it
Neil Plascencia January 29 at 7:03pm Reply •Report was made to look like an "accident" but the way they
nevermind : ( manoeverd his head into position for that spike clearly
shows conspiracy. No one is safe anymore.

Neil Plascencia January 29 at 7:04pm Reply •Report

Ok, got it!!! Roo Reindeer January 30 at 6:14pm Reply •Report
Vince:
Wouldn't it be interesting to hear the news say:
http://comedy.video.yahoo.com/?v=8645159 Hundreds of thousands of politicians worldwide found
dead or wandering disoriented. Many wash up on shore
or clog rivers.
Cause is unknown but may be related to large
concentration of fecal matter found in skulls. People are
Check out Rudolph parade FAIL from Butterfinger Comedy warned to keep pets away untill they can be properly
Network disposed of.
comedy.video.yahoo.com
Meanwhile many complain they "stink to high heaven".
Poor Rudolph is impaled on the lights.
Share "Worse then a dead skunk in the middle of the road" as
one witness put it "who would expect dead shit to smell
so bad, it was bad enough when they were alive... now
phewww".

Vincent Cataldi January 30 at 10:11am

Disclosure War at Critical Mass: Birds, Fish and Political
Deaths
Roo Reindeer January 30 at 6:17pm Reply •Report
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids- Patricia:
blog Cousin George has been saying the same thing as that
duck for years.
Of course they never listen until it is too late.

David's Blog Roo Reindeer January 30 at 6:22pm Reply •Report

divinecosmos.com From the AOL link:
Divine Cosmos
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"It is likely that a mycotoxin from moldy sweet potato
was a major factor in the disease and deaths of these
steers"

Patricia Howard January 30 at 4:01pm Reply •Report "Investigators say loud noises prompted the birds to
Via Space and Weather: take a rare night flight, and that they likely slammed into
1/30/11 objects such as trees and houses."
4:00 p.m. CST
"Likely"
"Expect geomagnetic activity to increase, starting within A useful word.
12 to 24 hours, lasting for about two to three days.
Expect active to minor storm levels (some aurora
possible). This is due to a coronal hole that is rotating
into geo-effective position on the Sun." Roo Reindeer February 1 at 9:08pm Reply •Report
Alright, now I'm pissed.
The bastards are killing penguins.
Little penguins. Still here.
They just crossed the line. But I knew they would come for me sooner or later.
Thai Panda: Grief of the penguins: Scores of birds bowed There are no limits for people who kill baby penguins.
in mourning after the deaths of their chick
thai-panda.blogspot.com
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Patricia Howard February 2 at 3:37pm Reply •Report

Glad you're safe, Roo. :)
Roo Reindeer February 1 at 9:22pm Reply •Report
"Expect geomagnetic activity to increase, starting within New one here - in the Netherlands
12 to 24 hours,..."
Yup, they were right on on that one.
At around 1500 on the 31 things got interesting space
weather wise. Nice to know that some people do know
what they are doing.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ace/SWEPAM_7d.html
What THE fuck gebeurt hier? Vogels vallen hier dood op
st...
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I have now received unconfirmed reports of a flock of

North American Ibises was found littering a California
coastline earlier today. I will try to provide a link as the
story develops. Patricia Howard February 5 at 2:01am Reply •Report
Got another new one - this time fish in Brazil.

It sounds like an isolated case, but the end of the story

Neil Plascencia February 1 at 9:57pm Reply •Report (re: the volume) leaves the reasoning behind it up to
interpretation.
What kind of birds are they? Are they not supposed to
be there?

Brazil Weird News: Brazil - Thousands of dead fish in the

Patricia Howard February 1 at 10:08pm Reply •Report Pantanal
brazilweirdnews.blogspot.com
Well, they look just like Roo.
The strange at Brazil. News of Fortean Journalism. The
unexplained. Paranormal, supernatural, anthropology,
Uh, oh ... Roo? Roo, are you there? Yoo hoo, Roooo?!? criptozoology, occultism, spiritualism, ufology, ghosts, miracles.
More, more, more: News of the weird reality in Latin America and
OH MY! *gasp* THEY GOT ROO TOO! in the countries of portuguese and spanish language.
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Patricia Howard February 5 at 2:34am Reply •Report
GEOMAGNETIC STORM WATCH: NOAA forecasters
estimate a 60% chance of polar geomagnetic storms on Jeepers! Here's another new one in Florida - same cause
Feb. 3rd. They say a high-speed solar wind stream and a - "lack of oxygen".
CME could hit Earth's magnetic field on Wednesday--a
double whammy almost certain to spark some degree of
geomagnetic activity.

Dead Fish Wash Up At Sebastian Inlet State Park

www.msnbc.msn.com
Biologists say they believe a lack of oxygen is what caused
Roo Reindeer February 2 at 3:22pm Reply •Report thousands of fish to die at Sebastian Inlet State Park.
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Roo Reindeer February 5 at 5:32pm Reply •Report
Well at least they didn't suffer blunt force trauma. Dead Fish Wash Up At Sebastian Inlet State Park
www.wpbf.com
SEBASTIAN, Fla. -- Biologists say they believe a lack of oxygen is
what caused thousands of fish to die at Sebastian Inlet State Park.
Friday, February 4, 2011.
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Patricia Howard February 5 at 5:33pm Reply •Report
Possibly due to Corexit?

Vincent Cataldi February 6 at 2:08pm

I would love to know if the sea gulls are eating this
Patricia Howard February 5 at 8:44pm Reply •Report 'meal - at the ready' ... :)
Apparently, the petroleum company that was just
allowed a few months ago to use the area, and start a
clearing of the vegetation...using Roundup. Trying to
find a link now ...
Patricia Howard February 6 at 2:15pm Reply •Report
I would think so - it said some on the beach were still
"kicking".

Vincent Cataldi February 5 at 9:52pm I still haven't found anything confirming the clearing of
This damm message system Needs a "LIKE" button ! vegetation using Roundup. I'm starting to think that may
be a rumor.

Patricia Howard February 5 at 9:55pm Reply •Report

lmao Vincent Cataldi February 6 at 2:44pm
If so - that rules out "Death by chupacabra", or MIBs -
I've thought that before too! :D thank God !

Patricia Howard February 6 at 2:04pm Reply •Report Patricia Howard February 6 at 3:45pm Reply •Report
Oh this one is good - lol Hey, now we've got trout. And it's NOT due to oxygen
depletion.
"Just because there's such a large school of them, they
use up the oxygen really quickly, and because they are
coming closer to shore, there's not as high of a water
turnover rate sometimes when you're in an area with
not as much tidal flow," FWC biologist Kelli O'Donnell Solon: Hundreds of fish found dead in Metropark
said. www.wkyc.com
SOLON -- Biologists are trying to figure out what led to the deaths
The lack of oxygen also affected a 20-pound redfish. of hundreds of stocked trout in three-acre Shadow Lake in the
South Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.
O'Donnell swished it through the water to get more Share
oxygen through its gills.

Although the mass fish deaths are rare, biologists said

these types of fish are prone to die from a lack of
oxygen. Vincent Cataldi February 6 at 4:38pm
ya but, ... it's Ohio ... :(
"There's still a huge school out there where if they don't
swim away soon to go to an area where there's a higher
oxygen level, then they are going to probably end up
dying also," O'Donnell said.
Patricia Howard February 6 at 8:57pm Reply •Report
Not sure if this is even related, but thought I'd toss this
one into the bunch just because it's another Florida
case.
California Man Killed by Armed Bird at Cockfight
Of note, when I was in Hawaii, the same thing www.aolnews.com
happened only in lesser numbers. Dozens of children A California man attending a cockfight has died after being
were coming out of the water in extreme pain. It's not stabbed in the leg by a bird that had a knife attached to its own
usual that so many man-o-war are together in one large limb.
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group. Usually the lifeguards order people out of the
water.

Man-of-war sting hundreds on South Florida beaches

www.orlandosentinel.com
In Fort Lauderdale alone, 212 beachgoers were stung on Friday Vincent Cataldi February 8 at 12:58am
and 261 on Saturday I know, .. I know !
Share ... what's the point, right ?

Vincent Cataldi February 7 at 12:23am Roo Reindeer February 8 at 1:42am Reply •Report
this is coded messages for a beach invasion by FEMA Speaking of mass deaths.
workers disguised as oil clean-up sponge-heads - or am Suppose we saw a report:
I looking too deep ? Hundreds of humans found dead at cockfight ring.
Officials unsure of cause. No sign of blunt force trauma,
but all victims seem to have no brains in their skulls.

Patricia Howard February 7 at 1:44pm Reply •Report Would this be surpriseing? The empty head part that is.
Nuffin'

Patricia Howard February 8 at 3:46am Reply •Report

Ark. fish, deaths still a mystery after tests CRAP! Got knocked offline there for a couple hours.
www.orlandosentinel.com
Arkansas wildlife officials say the mystery of what killed tens of
thousands of fish that washed up along the Arkansas River late It was that goddamn Preston Nichols post that did it!
last year can't be solved.
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Patricia Howard February 7 at 1:47pm Reply •Report Thousands of crabs wash up dead on ocean shore from
A more informative report that still yields ... NUFFIN'. pollution maybe???
Bird deaths explained, still no idea about fish | Arkansas www.youtube.com
Blog Thousands of crabs wash up dead on ocean shore from pollution
www.arktimes.com maybe???
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Vincent Cataldi February 8 at 9:28am

Vincent Cataldi February 8 at 12:57am Preston gave you Crabs ?
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsiteproxy.ruqli.workers.dev%3A443%2Fhttp%2Fw
ww.aolnews.com%2F2011%2F02%2F07%2Fcalifornia- ... well at least they are dead, hey ? Lucky,
man-killed-by-armed-bird-at-cockfight%2F&h=3a48b
... perhaps they are so far from the past that they died
of OLD Age - but hell, they should have thought of that
... :)
Patricia Howard February 9 at 6:17pm Reply •Report Roo Reindeer February 9 at 11:35pm Reply •Report
"low oxygen levels were caused by a proliferation of If the scales are burned that would be an interesting
marine algae." one.
Should be easy to check. But there is seldom follow up
This makes sense to me except when we're talking on these stories.
about the ocean.

One of our local lakes here has to be "mowed" in the

Summer for the same reason and aerators are used in
the Winter to keep the ice open. But oxygen levels in a Patricia Howard February 9 at 11:39pm Reply •Report
small lake are much different than oxygen levels in the I've gotta wonder what's going on in Arkansas at this
open ocean -- especially considering the fish can swim point.
AWAY in the ocean when they can't in a lake.
Fracking?
Fish kill reported in Florida state park - UPI.com
www.upi.com
A fish kill near Vero Beach, Fla., that saw masses of dead fish
wash up in a state park was probably due to oxygen starvation,
wildlife officials said. Patricia Howard February 9 at 11:42pm Reply •Report
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Wednesday February 09, 2011

Patricia Howard February 9 at 6:22pm Reply •Report

Another freshwater drum kill has been reported on the Hundreds of sparrows fall dead in Rotorua
Arkansas River near Ozark Lock and Dam. tvnz.co.nz
Hundreds of sparrows which were found dead in central Rotorua
over Auckland Anniversary weekend could have been deliberately
poisoned, the SPCA says.
Fish kill found near Ozark | TheCabin.net Share
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OZARK - Another freshwater drum kill has been reported on the
Arkansas River near Ozark Lock and Dam. The most recent fish kill
was reported Jan. 28. Unlike the previous kill Dec. 29, where more
than 83,000 dead and dying fish were spotted on the surface of
the river, this kill amounted to fewer tha Patricia Howard February 9 at 11:51pm Reply •Report
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In Michigan - thousands of dead gizzard shad are being

tested for a deadly fish virus called VHS because some
Patricia Howard February 9 at 7:50pm Reply •Report of them showed symptoms of the disease. Viral
hemorrhagic septicemia causes the fish to bleed
LMFAO! internally.
I wish I could say I'm making this shit up. Maybe *Of note - Michigan also had an oil spill last year.
somebody can show the aliens how to fish? :D Anybody know if Corexit was used in Michigan?

Scientists probe big fish die-off

www.windsorstar.com
Technology, science, business, blogs and columns, blogs, gaming,
UFO Blamed for 2,000 Dead Fish in Colombia, Report Says multimedia, technology, twitter, popular news, personal tech, tech
technorati.com biz, internet, free video games, online games, gaming, science
Witnesses say the UFO flew over the swamp with flashing lights news, environment, contests, space, articles, Windsor,
for 20 seconds and scorched the fish. Ontario,Tests are being done in Michigan to see wh
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Roo Reindeer February 10 at 1:12am Reply •Report Patricia Howard February 10 at 3:57am Reply •Report
I think Corexit is pretty much an equal opportunity ... a moment of silence ... for the fallen?
hemorragetic.
Although I suppose some species may be more
sensitive.
Even without Corexit the oil itself can be toxic in
reasonable concentrations. Roo Reindeer February 10 at 4:12am Reply •Report
And ... the floating, belly up.
What I really like is:

"The Ministry of the Environment had been called about

the dead fish but is not investigating because there was
Vincent Cataldi February 10 at 4:14am
no evidence pollution was the cause."
I had a "Delightful" ride up the mountain, and then the
Not investigating because there ia no evidence.... scamper down into the belly of That Beast :-: took half
No evidence because there is no investigation... an hour, rim to inner base - I took all cinders out of my
boots, sharp little suckers collected into my boots on the
Well that works out nicely. way down, .... then I looked back up - really, Up (!) -
and wished I saved All my energy for the Climb back up
to the Rim of that Majestic Volcano (sleepy time...:)).
Read
more:http://www.windsorstar.com/technology/Scientists That Black Beauty almost--> KilleD ME !!!
+probe+fish/4223336/story.html#ixzz1DXLjr68i ... what's a few crummy sparrows, now & then ... :)

Scientists probe big fish die-off

www.windsorstar.com Patricia Howard February 10 at 12:10pm Reply •Report
Technology, science, business, blogs and columns, blogs, gaming,
Okay, I'm going to stop posting anything else on this
multimedia, technology, twitter, popular news, personal tech, tech
biz, internet, free video games, online games, gaming, science thread.
news, environment, contests, space, articles, Windsor,
Ontario,Tests are being done in Michigan to see wh
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Patricia Howard February 13 at 12:31pm Reply •Report

I lied.
Patricia Howard February 10 at 1:16am Reply •Report I've been collecting links on the kills since the 10th (as
Yup. If you don't look for it, you're not gonna find it. they STILL continue) and most seem to have rational
explanations due to poisoning or oxygen depravation.
Also, it could be this species is more vulnerable because
of the size. They were just little buggers. Even full This one is just plain weird. Two separate locations on
grown, they're still little buggers. the same day with no signs of trauma. This time
Swallows. :)
No signs of injury on 100s of dead birds just 25 miles from
Gulf — Found in two locations (VIDEO) |.
www.floridaoilspilllaw.com
Vincent Cataldi February 10 at 2:59am Hundreds of dead birds discovered in Lake Charles, KPLC,
February 10, 2011: The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and
Rotorua sparrows : that's too easy !
Fisheries is trying to figure out what
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Roo Reindeer February 10 at 3:52am Reply •Report

Must be the torsion in Rotorua that got them. Vincent Cataldi February 14 at 5:08am
more insects in my radiator grill too, and I am driving
slowly ... :)
 Birds Found Dead In Juarez | KTSM News Channel 9
www.ktsm.com
We're told sanitary officials in Juarez detected the Newcastle
Disease Virus after hundreds of birds began to die. That's why
Patricia Howard February 15 at 5:28pm Reply •Report Saturday students from the University of Juarez went to different
Now Lockheed? colonias to vaccinate more than 2,500 birds, chickens and ducks.
Investigators can't pinpoint cause of Greenville fish kill | Share
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State health officials are investigating a fish kill near Lockheed-
Martin at the Donaldson Center, now called the South Carolina
Technology and Aviation Center. Patricia Howard February 20 at 2:03pm Reply •Report
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4681611/107-stranded-
whales-die-on-Stewart-Island/

Patricia Howard February 18 at 3:26pm Reply •Report

"It's a tool that can be used by lots of people to ask a 107 stranded whales die on Stewart Island | Stuff.co.nz
variety of different questions," says Frick. "It will really www.stuff.co.nz
open up the field." More than 100 pilot whales are dead after a stranding on Stewart
Island.
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Vincent Cataldi February 20 at 6:46pm

Perhaps we need to start tracking Mass Births - to see if
Scientists Use Weather Radar to Track Bats - ScienceNOW
someone is fucking around, and to see if this is due to
news.sciencemag.org
Scientists Use Weather Radar to Track Bats - ScienceNOW unusual scrutiny or an actual Gross Increase in 'mass
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What key words do you use when searching for all

these
- I am rebuilding my Mega searches again ... :)
Patricia Howard February 18 at 3:34pm Reply •Report
"They will fall out of the sky and have trouble staying
upright"
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/ohio-
news/dead-geese-puzzle-wildlife-officials-in-ohio- Patricia Howard February 20 at 6:49pm Reply •Report
1084856.html I don't search. Sites like Coastal Warriors post these.

Roo Reindeer February 21 at 3:05am Reply •Report

Stewart Island.
Dead geese puzzle wildlife officials in Ohio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Island_/_Rakiura
www.daytondailynews.com
TOLEDO, Ohio — Wildlife officials say dozens of geese have been
found dead or seriously ill along Lake Erie in northwest Ohio. "Owing to an anomaly in the magnetic latitude contours,
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location is well placed for observing Aurora australis."

In other words it is a hotspot during solar storms that

would not normally have an effect that far from the
Patricia Howard February 20 at 2:03pm Reply •Report pole. It would also be, by extenstion, an area in which
http://www.ktsm.com/news/birds-found-dead-in-juarez HAARP related events would be more easily engendered.
Especially if they want to take advantage of solar input.
Like during the recent geomagnetic flareup.

I also was looking at the South Atlantic Anomaly for an

entirely different reason and just happened to realize
there may be a non political reason so many of our
Teutonic friends decided to retire in Argentina.
Patricia Howard February 21 at 5:36pm Reply •Report
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly http://www.sunherald.com/2011/02/20/2881134/baby-
http://www.sunherald.com/2011/02/20/2881134/baby
dolphin-deaths-spike-on--gulf.html?storylink=addthis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ROSAT_SAA.gif
iki/File:ROSAT_SAA.gif
Baby dolphin deaths spike on Gulf Coast - Gulfport -
SunHerald.com
On the other bird deaths: www.sunherald.com
This is the first birthing season for dolphins since the spill.
"Falling out of the sky and haveing trouble standing
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upright"
George has that problem often, but he has
dependencies.
I don't think that applies here though.
Roo Reindeer February 21 at 6:58pm Reply •Report
Juarez: Only ten times the normal rate?
Just living there is often grounds forr suicide. What does that prove?
They may also have been trafficking across the border. Maybe it was bad year for dolphins.
Which would, sadly, bring us back to George.
Let's wait and
d see, if next year it is 100 times the normal
Mass births are an interesting idea that has probably rate maybe we will run a "study".
been ignored by the MSM, If you are never born, you
certainly can't die. The study will then show that the number of dead
No denying that. dolphins declines in subsequant years from the high of
Perhaps The Onion has some info on that. There should 100 times normal. Each year there will be fewer and
have been reports of massive egg shell sightings fewer dead dolphins.
somewhere. One year there will be none.

They will announce that there were no dead dolphins

after a continual decline in deaths for several years. This
will be announced as proof corexit and oil are not only
harmless but appearently are beneficial as dolphins are
ar
Stewart Island / Rakiura - Wikipedia, the free no longer dying at the old "normal" rate.
encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org Of course no one will mention that the lack of dead
Stewart Island/Rakiura is the third-largest
largest island of New Zealand. dolphins may be related to the lack of live dolphin
It lies 30 kilometres (19 mi) south of the South Island, across
sightings.
Foveaux Strait. Its permanent population is slightly over 400
people, most of whom live in the settlement of Oban.
Share Just cause you don't see any live dolphins doesn't prove
they are not there. You should just be happy there are
no dead ones.
But damn tree huggers are never happy.

Patricia Howard February 21 at 3:31am Reply •Report

Wow! Good detective work, Roo! I wonder if Rense's
team has discovered the anomolous hotspot near
Stewart Island? Vincent Cataldi February 21 at 7:57pm
Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia, the free
The SAA is interesting too - something to keep in mind encyclopedia
for possible future events. (I see "shooting stars" all the The phrase, as noted by Robert Giffen in 1892, was a
time myself. Wish I could blame it on something other variation on a phrase about three types of unreliable
than the damn migraines.) witnesses, a liar, a damned liar, and an expert ...

Now maybe we can find a good 12-stepstep program for www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_stati

George? stics
They say a bird in rehab is worth two in the bush (that
died of blunt trauma.)
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FINAL RESULTS - FISH TESTING

Roo Reindeer February 22 at 3:55am Reply •Report "We can say conclusively that the drum were not killed
Looks like the whales knew something we didn't. from a bacterial or viral infection, or from parasites,"
said Game and Fish Commission fish pathologist Kelly
Actually of course it would make no sense for whale to Winningham.
beach itself out of fear of an earthquake. The ocean is a
perfectly safe place in an earthquake. at least away from
shore. Tsunamies mean nothing to anything in the deep The Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality also
ocean. conducted tests on fish and water samples. Water
samples were tested for metals, nutrients and minerals
However something relating to the cause of this EQ may to assess water quality. Fish samples were tested for
have upset the whales. There is the magnetic field metals. A drum sample was tested for toxins such as
anomaly. The recent major solar flareup and the pesticides and other organic chemicals. All samples were
proximity to the HAARP conjugate point. Also the recent within normal values for the Arkansas River, according
"missing data" from the solar obsevatory websites. to the agency. The drum sample did not show any
toxins.
Not that there could be any connection of course.
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20110126/NEWS03
/110126043/0/SPORTS0807/Ark-fish-deaths-still-
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global- mystery-after-tests?odyssey=nav%7Chead
News/2011/0221/New-Zealand-earthquake-shuts-down- Arkansas fish deaths still a mystery after tests | The
Clarion-Ledger | clarionledger.com
flights-out-of-the-
www.clarionledger.com
country?cmpid=addthis_facebook&sms_ss=facebook&at The mystery of what killed tens of thousands of fish that washed
_xt=4d6341047583ff62%2C0 up along the Arkansas River late last year can't be solved, state
wildlife officials announced Wednesday, but they do have a theory
about what caused birds to fall out of the sky in a small Arkansas
town on New Year's Eve.
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New Zealand earthquake shuts down flights out of the
country
www.csmonitor.com
New Zealand earthquake: Air traffic control operations for New
Zealand are located in Christchurch, where the air traffic control Roo Reindeer February 24 at 12:33am Reply •Report
building may have been damaged by Tuesday's earthquake. All
international flights from New Zealand have been suspended. Too bad they didn't look for tissue damage in proximity
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Oh well.

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On my first job the general manager spoke at a meeting Patricia Howard February 25 at 4:22pm Reply •Report
in which he (trying to cover up his mistakes) said Gulf Sea Nettles –A COMMON FOOD FOR DOLPHINS –
something that is none the less true. Showed High Levels of Crude Oil Contamination in
December 2010 Sampling
Statistics are like bikinis, http://oilspillaction.com/gulf-sea-nettles-–-a-common-
what they show is interesting, food-for-dolphins-–-showed-high-levels-of-crude-oil-
what they hide is vital. contamination-in-december-2010-sampling

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And the babies (fetuses) are naturally going to be most
Gulf Sea Nettles –A COMMON FOOD FOR DOLPHINS –
vulnerable. Showed High Levels of Crude Oil Contamination in Dec
oilspillaction.com
As bottlenose dolphins continue to die and wash ashore in
alarming numbers, it’s worth remembering that testing conducted
by my research team in December 2010
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HOLY CRAP!
Electroreceptive Fish Photos -- National Geographic
"When I went past Yanwu Lake at about 6:40am, ocean.nationalgeographic.com
See photos of electroreceptive fish (including sturgeons, rays,
thousands of shrimps were jumping out of the lake and sharks, and more) in this oceans life photo gallery from National
even onto the lakeshore. However, the phenomenon Geographic.
didn’t last long as the shrimp died soon afterwards”
, said Share
Mr. Xu, a secuity guard of a nearby building.

http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news17650.html

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EXPERTS have no answers on what has caused the
death of thousands of squid in the River Derwent this
Thousands of shrimp try to 'commit suicide' at Yanwu Lake week.
in Xiamen - What's On Xiamen
www.whatsonxiamen.com
Networking Page My Personal Page My Control PageAction BarsMy
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Photos Member News WOX Card Centre My Astrology 71_tasmania-news.html
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Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania
www.themercury.com.au
Spate of Derwent fish deaths EXPERTS have no answers on what
has caused the death of thousands of squid in the River Derwent
this week.
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300 lb. and 500 lb. actually small in comparison to
average adults weighing about 2,200 pounds.

http://jacksonville.com/community/st-johns/2011-02-
26/story/scientists-investigate-after-deepwater-sunfish- Roo Reindeer February 26 at 12:43am Reply •Report
wash-ponte-vedra Too bad the squid deaths can't be timed better.
Tasmania is even closer to the Alaska HAARP conjugate
point then New Zealand. They were also in a river as
opposed to the open sea.
One more factoid that may connect up.
Scientists investigate after deepwater sunfish wash up on
Ponte Vedra, St. Augustine and Vilano beac
jacksonville.com
Florida fish and wildlife officials are investigating the recent deaths
of three massive ocean sunfish found less than a week apart on Roo Reindeer February 26 at 12:48am Reply •Report
three St. Johns County beaches, including Ponte Vedra Beach.On
Feb. 16, a 9-foot, nearly 500-pound sharp-tailed mola was found
I would think the corexit/oil connection to the GOM
washed up on St. Augustine Beach near dolphins would be a no brainer. But the money interest
Share treat these deaths like a homicide investigation where if
you can't get the murder on video the defendent walks
regardless of a freight train load of circumstantial
evidence.

Patricia Howard February 25 at 8:47pm Reply •Report By the time they decide the oil spill "may" be a
Found this tidbit of info in this article interesting: contibuting factor they will probably be extinct.
Whew.... no more evidence to worry about.
"One group of sensory organs is the ampullae of
Lorenzini, which allows sharks to detect, among other
things, the electrical fields created by prey animals."

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/photos/elect Patricia Howard February 26 at 12:18pm Reply •Report

roreceptive-
"A lot of the organs are mush, basically," said Blair
Muse, who collects reports of beached dolphins in the http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/02/can-animals-
southeastern United States for the National Marine foresee-natural-disasters.php
Fisheries Service.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2011/02/25/AR2011022506750.html
Can Animals Foresee Natural Disasters? : TreeHugger
www.treehugger.com
Earthquakes, like the one that struck today in Chile--which, at the
time of this writing, is believed to have claimed 147 lives--are all
Dolphin cold case: Investigators say cause of calve die-off
the more devastating for their unpredictable nature. While
may never be known
geologists have resources available to indicate a probability
www.washingtonpost.com
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Was it the oil? That's the question of the day as the number of
stillborn or dead young dolphin calves washing up on Gulf of
Mexico shores continues to rise. The research team called in to
investigate the incident has a disconcerting answer: We might
never know. On Friday, five more dead baby bot...
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Many have the ability to detect ELF electromagnetic
fields, as you pointed out in that post on sharks. The use
of ELF monitoring in earthquake prediction was covered
in that post that had the NASA co-authors.
Patricia Howard February 26 at 11:58pm Reply •Report
Can Whale Strandings Help Predict Earthquakes? So it seems they can sense changes in the fields that
can also be connected to earthquakes.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/02/can-whale-
strandings-help-predict-earthquakes.php Changes in these fields may occur very slowly or may
fluctuate on a shorter time scale. I would be inclined to
think a slow variation leading up to a quake might go
un-noticed. The boiling frog effect.
Can Whale Strandings Help Predict Earthquakes? : But a faster sudden fluctuation might be noticible and
TreeHugger cause concern among animals.
www.treehugger.com It is hard to get positive signals on this though due to
Photo via The Guardian Earthquakes, like the one that struck in
Christchurch, New Zealand yesterday, rank among the most the random distribution of animals and their varying
devastating natural disasters, capable of leveling cities and causing sensitivity. They also don't keep records of what they
extensive loss of life -- largely because they are so unpredictable. sense. It is up to us to interpret their actions.
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It would also seem to me that a more rapid onset of
change would be the case in a HAARP orchestrated
event. Although a slow steady action might be possible
even in an artificial situation. But I think a HAARP
Patricia Howard February 27 at 1:30am Reply •Report
signature would be short and rapid variation.
Roo? I'm wondering what you're thinking about the
above article? If that is the case it will get harder and harder to mask
this activity as more and more ELF reseach and
monitoring comes on line even at the amateur level.

Patricia Howard February 27 at 1:41am Reply •Report

"The earthquake and resulting tsunami which struck the
Indian Ocean in December 2004 resulted in the deaths Patricia Howard February 27 at 3:46am Reply •Report
of nearly 285,000 people. Many tourists, who had been I guess I've been wanting to ask you something, Roo,
visiting an ecological reserve in Sri Lanka were killed by but I've been a little reluctant. Oh, WTH, here goes:
the tidal wave that swept miles inland. Survivors recalled
that prior to the disaster, animals at the reserve were What do you think the chances are that all of these
observed acting strangely, scrambling for high places. mass animal deaths are just a "natural" part of some
No animals were killed when the tidal wave arrived." really odd earth/solar changes taking place right now?
In other words, what are the odds that none of this is
People: 285,000 HAARP-related?
Animals: 0
(Please be gentle with me.) If I were to guess because I had to : I would bet that
everyone one of these possibilities are believed by some
of the people involved : compartmentalized insider
knowledge tells everyone a different story - partial truth
- both good and bad guys can be 'used' in such a
Roo Reindeer February 27 at 5:36am Reply •Report situation.
Same as the odds of winning the lottery ... 50/50.
You win or you don't... numbers like 23 million to one Wonder if we can identify which HAARP is the Initial
mean nothing when you have a ticket. source - but if it is scalar (using the frequency harmonics
Russian roulette is technically 5 to one but if you pull the - not the frequencies directly) then it does not travel
trigger either you hear the hammer hit or you don't.... through time-space and the source is not detectable - I
50/50. am told.

That's because there is no way to deterministically run And I agree with you - if it is Natural (primary cause) :
the numbers on the pop corn machine with the lottery that forecasts hit-and-miss events that will directly harm
balls or the final resting point of the spinning cylinder. humans. ... and any mitigation effort is blowing air
against gale force winds !
Same with this, there is really no way at present to
prove HAARP related technology is doing this. There is
also no recognised mechanism to explain or prove that
the sun or any other aspect of our situation in space is
the culprit. Patricia Howard February 27 at 3:07pm Reply •Report
^ Good point about Russian HAARP.
Everybody has a nebulous theory or two to implicate
their favorite bugaboo. But there are no predictive I realize that many people believe that the Haiti
numbers. earthquake was HAARP-induced. The problem I have
with that is, what would be the point in destroying a 3rd
That could change. With the best bet for showing either world country? Unless it was an "oops" or unless we are
a man made or solar connection being ELF waves I think to believe that it's sole purpose was to reduce the world
that the data may begin to accumulate soon. population, and I have a hard time swallowing that
scenario. I am not blind to the NWO gameplan, but I
If it is some sort of natural thing relateing to solar just don't think they have the numbers.
physics or position "soon" may be of no help if the result
is merely to predict we are toast. The reason why I initally even questioned whether or
not HAARP is the cause of the animal deaths is because
If it is man made it might be able to put a stop to it if it we are seeing earth changes now like never before (in
could be proven. my lifetime anyways) and I can literally feel (tactile)
Especially in a world where cops are sleeping with changes happening. Might be just an instinctual thing
protesters. again. But I am open to any possibilities.

Which is why I am hopeing it is man made. Even if that When I think about how many animal species (and
is indicative of extream malice in the short run, it offers many we still don't even know about) depend upon the
a hope of remedy in the long run. earth's magnetic field for survival, it makes sense to me
that the fluctuations would cause the migration of sea
animals to be thrown off. I don't believe that is the case
with the birds though as the weather vortex seems to
make the most sense in those odd trauma cases that
Vincent Cataldi February 27 at 2:36pm can't be attributed to other causes like the poisoning,
Roo : I see HAARP - BUT, I am still wide open to Why ! bird flu, etc. But can it possibly be a weird naturally-
occurring weather vortex?
It may be that triggering small events is the Best
Considered Opinion to mitigate damage from a EQ that
IS coming - it could also be that this HAARP 'signature' is
being used to coerce the fault to slip at the 'best place'
or time to mitigate overall damage - AND it could be that Patricia Howard February 27 at 3:37pm Reply •Report
it is employed to cause a fault to slip to cause damage - http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/dead-whale-bacterial-
but this could be Russian HAARP non-traditional warfare, infection-large-abscess-windpipe-external-bleeding-
while our HAARP is used as counter measures. reported-witnesses-video
Dead whale had “ bacterial infection”and large abscess
near windpipe — External bleeding reported by Just like Baghdad is a training ground for dealing with
www.floridaoilspilllaw.com
urban political resistence here.
Infection, abscess found in stranded whale, Houston Chronicle,
February 25, 2011:A bacterial infection and large abscess found
near the windpipe of a pygmy
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Ehh .... ^ that ^ breaks my heart.

Roo Reindeer February 28 at 7:14am Reply •Report And Americans think the rest of the world hates us
The problem I have with a Russian HAARP attack is that because of our "freedom".
we would retaliate. Just as we would if they were
spraying chemtrails all over us. So we know those are
our planes, even if the motive may be open to question,
the source is not.
Vincent Cataldi February 28 at 10:33pm
We would not have to be able to track a HARRP $0.02 - I have heard or read multiple sources that state
technologie's source to know who did it. If it wasn't us HAARP can cause an EQ about 10 miles down - so that
we would know it was them. eliminates many deep quakes - Haiti was One of Those
that was exactly ten miles deep, centered under the
Mostly I am not sure why Russia would prefer an open capital city, in a region with no known fault zones --- SO
and direct corporate/military dictatorship running the :
US. I would think that would be a more direct threat to
them then the present system. I have asked your question also - Why in the Hell Haiti
A major New Madrid quake would not destroy the US which almost doesn't matter - it was Hell before and
but would result in "temporary" martial law nationwide. after (and I mean no disrespect to the death, grief,
With a likelyhood of indefinite "extension" as in all 3rd suffering) - but still why ?
world pestholes.
Perhaps we have a morality that would not allow us to
The economic damage would have no real effect on the understand this well - so, I decided that (like Roo says)
military, we would still have enough true surplus wealth a demo - "Watch what we can do" - who ever did not do
to maintain a military far superior to their's. We would it, pretty much knows who did,
just have to reduce the standard of living of the people
to that of post WWII Stalinist Russia to compensate. The list likely includes England, France, Israel, Russia,
Their military got everything, the people nothing. China (all of which are well advanced in scalar
They carried on for over four decades like that. technology according to Col. Tom Bearden), but HAARP
They know we could do it to. propagates and can be traced back to a source - even
Also I am not sure they would gain by having a lean, by us - a bit - whereas scalar events do not travel
mean brutalised mass of a civilian population suffering through time/space (again according to Bearden) and so
under a dictatorship for an enemy. Fat, lazy and satisfied no vectoring can betray the source.
populations are harder to whip into a war frenzy.
The Russians made multiple attacks against us - Bold
I see the corporate/military in this country having far acts of war - just to test - to see if we were able to
more to gain by a New Madrid catastrophe. It suits all detect the event as an attack - we were BLIND !! "a tiny
their goals more then the Russian's. little country" (Israel?) actually turned on their system to
"Insanity Mode", which required a human to 'stop' the
As far as Haiti: automatic retaliation in the event that no human
A dry run. Close to home, in our "sphere of influence", survived - the Soviets backed down, and the US began
effectively zero native government, already an economic to look at this technology - fifty years after the Soviets
basket case, no land borders, (Dominican Republic ain't began to study it -- this is the second side of the double
gonna do nothing) from a de facto stanpoint almost as edged sword of HD Physics (Torsion Field Physics is
isolated from the "real world" as N Korea. Easy for us to what the Russians call it).
establish military control and let FEMA practise. No
government or NGOs to make trouble or question This may be why we GAVE China all out plans for all
decisions. 95% illiteracy, effectively zero communication military devices - perhaps we gave them all the
industry and media. Small geographical area.... basically conventional class technology - but not the scalar
a perfect test lab for martial law and urban control by devices which Can make an entire planet explode, or
the military in the aftermath of a disaster. make a large area deadly to enter - for ever ! What's a
little H-bomb thrown here or there - or a little muscle No connection found to oil or corexit of course.
flexing with an EQ under the Palace in Haiti ?? Business as usual of course.

I used my thumb to hitch through 44 countries - and I

was a proud unofficial ambassador promoting the
opportunity of freedom for all - now I am ashamed of Roo Reindeer March 2 at 9:16am Reply •Report
what My government has done to some (and that Vincent:
includes me too) - and must keep reminding myself of That mention of Israel and an "insane mode" got me
the statement made by the first US official who told me thinking about Dr Strangelove. As I'm sure you know,
of the shadow government : Remember, he said, they the "glitch" in that scenario was that the Russians had
are better equipped with technology and organization - failed to announce the device before the incident with
But they are a tiny minority, and many very smart and the B52s. It was asked, "what good is a doomsday
brave people are fighting like hell to stop them. weapon for defense if no one knows about it ?"
The Russian ambassador said they were waiting for the
This was a discussion twenty five years ago - he felt this next party congress (or whatever, I forget) to spring
day would arrive twenty years ago. "They are only their surprise.
human", I tell myself, and they can not get all they want
if the Good fights back ! That was, of course, unfortunate.

[who knows what is true these days - but it is getting There was also the minor technical issue, never brought
easier to accept/see fraud, and accept that I too was up in the movie, but easily solved, of allowing the device
tricked by evil doers] to trigger on a single bombing event. You would
naturally want to prevent an "accidental positive" with a
slightly more sophisticated algorithm. After all, a
homegrown bomb just could go off at a missle base for
example and you would not want that to end the world.
Patricia Howard March 1 at 7:24pm Reply •Report
Saliki said it takes a few days to confirm the presence of But THE IDEA WAS GOOD!!!
morbillivirus in a dead animal, provided viable samples No one could start a nuclear war without destroying the
can be collected. He speculated that no one had so far world.
tested the Gulf animals for the disease, adding, “ you can The device could not even be used for blsckmail...
only find things you actually look for.” surrender imperialist pigs or we will destroy the world
including ourselves..oops, no wait... on second thought.
http://blog.al.com/live/2011/03/dead_dolphins_measles
_related.html Unlike a "normal" nuclear war that some may have
thought winnible the doomsday machine guaranteed
everybody dies.
Everyone would be protected.
Considering the alternative of a "normal" nuclear war
Dolphin deaths in Alabama, Mississippi may be caused by
where almost everyone would die anyway being initiated
measles-related illness
blog.al.com becaise some crackpot thinks it could be "won" I think
With six new dolphin carcasses discovered in Mississippi and the doomsday machine makes sense.
Alabama since Saturday, a review of the scientific literature
associated with similar mass die offs of marine mammals around Safety protocols would have to be severe, but the
the world suggests a common culprit: a morbillivirus. In the same standard protocols to prevent "accidental" nuclear war
family as the viruses that cause measles in hu
already are. If either set fail everything goes down the
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toilet so giving the politicians a real incentive to stop
even thinking such a war could be won would be a plus.

Now suppose these scalar weapons exist.

Roo Reindeer March 2 at 8:20am Reply •Report It is the same thing. It does no good to keep them
You heard it here first :-) secret. If you have the power to destroy the planet it
Measles: Comeing soon to a GOM family near you. does you no good if your enemy does not know of it. He
New "virulent" strain of course. will attack as in Dr SL, then boom.
It will be blamed on bio labs in Cuba of course. All gone. No sense to that. You must let them know
Financed by Hugo Chavez and Iran of course ahead of time you have it.
Brought into country by illegal aliens of course.
If you let your enemies government know but they keep
it from the people it would still work of course. But how for example :
long could you seriously keep it under wraps, especially "Accordingly, as soon as his new superweapons were
with many countires involved over decades. deployed and ready, Khrushchev did that "something
dramatic." On April 10, 1963 he destroyed the U.S.S.
In the case of the US vs USSR for a while I could see it. Thresher with one of his new weapons. Scalar EM
But if countries such as Israel have to even let Hamas in (electrogravitational) beams, focused through the ocean
on it for example to prevent them from setting off a to interfere on the Thresher under the surface, recreated
large stolen nuke in Israel where the very small area spurious EM energy in the sub's electrical control
would make such a blast an effective country killer circuits, jamming them so that the sub lost control, sank
(Country 40 miles wide. 20meg bomb crater 3 miles to crush depth, and imploded. Spurious electromagnetic
wide. Total destruction radius 20 miles wide. Major "splatter" surrounding the immediate vicinity of the
destruction wider.) how long before it leaks out? targeted area left a signature of intense EM interference
with multiple systems and multiple frequencies of the
Non-disclosure agreements do not deter anyone with U.S.S. Skylark, surface companion of the Thresher. This
things like this. The threat of a death penalty did not anomalous EM interference was so virulent that it
deter people from trafficing in nuclear secrets. I really required over 1-1/ 2 hours for the Skylark to transmit an
don't see how the infrastucture for such weapons could emergency message back to headquarters that the sub
have been kept secret for so long, but even if it were, had been lost.**** The death of the Thresher was
the existence of such a doomsday device would end war Khrushchev's first blow."
if known. No politician could justify it anymore.
Now that would be a good reason for them to hide it , http://www.cheniere.org/books/analysis/history.htm
war is a cash cow and a consolidator of internal power. The Tom Bearden Website
www.cheniere.org
Colonel Bearden is a nuclear engineer, wargames analyst, and
But it seems someone would have let it out of the bag
military tactician with over 26 years experience in air defense
when you consider the fate of people who were willing systems, tactics and operations, technical intelligence,
to die or go to prison for life to expose atomic secrets. antiradiation missile countermeasures, nuclear weapons
There would be an even far stronger moral imperitive to employment, computerized wargames and military systems
reveal this info if a true doomsday capability existed to requirem
render war obsolete. Share

Everyone associated with such weapons in every country

could not be a total sociopath. There would have to be
at least one moral invidual involved with enough Vincent Cataldi March 4 at 11:05pm
information to out this thing.
Remember that TV show (Island or Lost?) where every
Even I'm not cynical enough to believe there would not
hour someone had to hit the button "OR ELSE" - that is
be one good person in that new sodom.
what the "Insanity Mode" switch was described as

- every hour, the computer selected a random number

of seconds and started the activation process - which
Vincent Cataldi March 4 at 10:35pm had to be manually over ridden - and then gave a fast
Roo : the Soviets did brag that they had the ultimate 60 seconds to hit the button or the target was
weapon - we saw it as Bluster, but now it seems that obliterated
they were correct. The Stalin interrogation of all western
science seeking weakness lead them to Maxwell's - small or large area, and near instant death to all - no
equation - this produced what they call Torsion Field shelter will help - not even deep under ground - and the
Physics and RcH calls HD Physics. area can be made deadly to enter for a very long time.
Chilling book to read.
The book by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.) is described on
link below - and I have not finished it - but it is a chilling I think the USS Thresher and Shuttle Challenger were
view of the good or bad that this 'new science' can really both 'proven' to be tests to see what we understood, or
do. Bearden, had the education and military position at would do if we understood what happened.
the Red Rock Arsenal to know what was going on - he
collected all information our spies brought in, and tried Cool test too : data captured on weather satellite directly
to reverse engineer it to understand what the Soviets above the Challenger as it blasted off, and went through
were doing. this rectangular anomaly - this data isolated from the
weather satellite data was played back to aluminum
It may all be junk - but if true, it is note worthy. nails which acted as wet noodles

- The Hutchison-effect : http://www.hutchisoneffect.ca/

 they did comparison testing on Thresher, they were
- Hutchinson, the French, Russians, (China I assume similar.
now) and that "tiny friendly country" all have ability to
turn metal to a molten state - a liquid that can pour into
a mold - without heat - the USA did enter the game
(They say) a decade or so back (perhaps two decades)
and who knows what we stole paying spies - but I see Patricia Howard March 4 at 11:54pm Reply •Report
scalar signatures all over the twin towers - and that was As purely a display of power?
a message (many) to many different audiences.

Dr Judy woods has documented this well, but it takes a

week of hard work to find all she has compiled.
Vincent Cataldi March 5 at 12:40am
http://www.drjudywood.com/
Also a Test to see if we would react as though we knew
what they did - that would tell them a lot about the
degree of our R&D progress.

We did not suspect anything - the weather satellite data

The Hutchison-effect
www.hutchisoneffect.ca test was done years after the 'accident' - by The One
Hutchisoneffect.ca is the official website designed for and with Man in the US government who had a belief in the
John Hutchison himself. Find videos, photographs, links to equation - the scalar components of Maxwell's equation
important documents and experiments. Also, check out the X-Files - but this is really Roos area of expertise - not mine -
Newsletter.
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But Bearden was/is a PhD in math and physics, so he is
a qualified opinion too. His test was what changed the
mind of all - and so what ? What could we do ? Yell that
the (now) Russians shot down the shuttle as it lifted off,
Vincent Cataldi March 4 at 11:14pm when they were the Soviets - and we did not know
For the record - Hutchison is a kook, and Bearden is CIA enough to even detect it ?
controlled dis-information specialist
Almost funny how governments value human life.
- but he did work with Bedini and Floyd 'Sparky' Sweet
to bring some technology to the people of the world -
Sparky spent the last decade of his life doing this
Patricia Howard March 5 at 12:44am Reply •Report
- and he (Sweet ) did this at GE headquarters as a man
Really ... really sad.
who was in charge of all electromagnetic R&D projects -
so all three knew more than they can say out of black
Hmm ... good time for a break from the computer.
ops basements

- yet : MEG does not work well enough to replicate

however hard they try , even by them. So who know
what is true. Vincent Cataldi March 5 at 12:55am
... ditto :)

Patricia Howard March 4 at 11:23pm Reply •Report

Hold on a second .... call me slow .... the Soviets took Patricia Howard March 8 at 5:32pm Reply •Report
down the Challenger? This is just plain WEIRD. Birds native to Australia found
dead in New York?

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news%2Floc
Vincent Cataldi March 4 at 11:47pm al%2Fnew_york&id=8001742
Wreckage shows scalar signatures in the metal - and we
now pay for their space program - funny when you
follow the money and it backs up a kooky conspiracy
Dozens of dead zebra finches found in Gramercy Park |
theory, hey ? The aluminum nails test nailed it - then 7online.com
abclocal.go.com mile from the site. Siesmic records show almost no
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buildings fell. And they collapsed at freefall speeds, or
faster.
So.....somebody certainly has these weapons, and are
Patricia Howard March 8 at 7:12pm Reply •Report willing to do some demonstrations of their power. What
think you all???
Dead baby dolphin count now at 133 - Media no longer
reporting findings, only offering speculation and
alternate explanations.

Neil Plascencia March 8 at 11:04pm Reply •Report

I think your right, as a matter of fact, I read an article
Patricia Howard March 8 at 7:12pm Reply •Report this week (and now of course can't find it) that stated
that this same directed energy weapon may have been
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More Than 2 Dozen Seals Wash up on Jersey Shore, NBC months or years later....
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Vincent Cataldi March 9 at 12:24am

Max : I agree with you completely : and my kook and
Patricia Howard March 8 at 7:14pm Reply •Report dis-informational specialist comment was actually a bit
of a joke from me, but it is what was said by many - so I
Correction - Dolphin total as of today, March 8, 2011 =
added it as a post-script.
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I truly believe that Tom Bearden, Sweet, and Bedini
really did try everything in their power to find 'open
system' data to bring new energy technology to the
Maxim Karl Rice March 8 at 10:46pm Reply •Report world - but failed, sadly. Sweet made a priceless video
I have read Bearden's 900 page tome Energy from the at GE headquarters, where my pop worked - that made
Vacuum and a few of his other books. Vince says he is a me believe, and he invested the last ten years of his life
CIA disinformation specialist. I've watched some of his to make MEG (or something) work - after GE.
videos too. I guess if he is with the CIA then who isn't?
(A serious question.) I learned a great deal from his If these men are CIA controlled, it is against their
books; indeed, it really was the major thing that opened wishes, IMO..
my eyes to a lot of physics I was never informed of in
college. i have been dismayed that he has never been I was especially disheartened when last fall They
able to bring the MEG into practical production. (I reported having trouble making the MEG work with any
wonder if Searl will do better?) I too believe Hutchinson consistency - after years of tinkering - doping - it was
is a kook (he might describe himself that way) but there where I wanted to start.
has always been a lot of official interest in the effects he
was able to produce (but not always replicate). Having Because of this bad news I decided to try a Tesla Switch
just finished Judy Wood's 500 page tome Where Did the from PJKelly book, and to up-scale Bedini - and talked
Towers Go? she is quite certain that they were brought them (Rick & John Bedini) into making kits for a Big
down by directed energy devices. She examines just the Window Fan II, and a mechanical replica of the scalar
how, not the why or who (no conspircies are put rotor - but even here the electronics were down graded
forward). She shows steel beams that could only get to SSG eighty times
into the shape they are by being exposed to something
like the Hutchinson Effect or the directed energy - and once one is allowed into the advanced Bedini
weapons described by Bearden. She says 80% of the monopole group with this massive device, they say -
material of the towers was reduced to dust, including now experiment with capacitive charging and ignore the
most of the steel, and directed energy is what caused 80 SSG circuits. So - now what ?
1400 cars to burst into flame, some more than a half
The Window Motor comes with better electronics, and Hector - who is brilliant.
much more logical magnet configuration - the scalar
rotor changed (down-graded) the magnet complexity The world outside the USA is having better luck with
also. these ideas of new devices, but in this country I am
crazy and working with perpetual motion machines - so I
I too learned a lot from Tom, and Floyd Sweet - and I work alone, mostly.
have a notion why the "Tesla Switch" works in a
mechanical horn-relay switching device, but not using But I still believe I have enough to continue, I believe
electronics for switching. I plan to try a tube version the sun is going to wake up with powerful storms, and I
with large physical separation of the circuits - rather believe I must try.
than the tight tolerance of very closely packed semi-
conductor parts. Also - I believe that the sun, and natural cycles is what
allows Congress to sell us out - allows the bankers to
I also believe that I understand the basics of why this take all the money - and blackmail the country - because
works, and where the energy comes from - and why it is Time is so valuable. Every extra day allows the
hard to measure (with current tools). My R&D had to possibility to save more lives - I see a bumpy ride - but
stop due to a early cold winter and my poor health - but if so, it will be exciting : so I push forward and I share
I am driven to produce a solution in two sizes : all I learn.

one big enough for a small home, and one for a small PS - Judy wood also made me a believer
business - and I am eager to continue to resume my - that was crazy talk until I lived on her web site for a
work as spring allows me to work in my new shop week.
without frost bit feet.

My goal is to make a home and small business work off

the grid, with the ability to grow food in the home - now
the law is in place to regulate and charge fees enough Patricia Howard March 9 at 12:45am Reply •Report
to make this impracticably expensive, and my collection This is an interview with Bill Deagle about mass animal
of non-GMO heirloom seeds are literally outlawed by this die offs and Earth in peril.
law - discouraging - stupid - what the hell are they
thinking in Congress ? Tags: Mass animal die-off, Jeff Rense, Environment,
EarthPlanet XNibiru, BP oil spill, HAARP, volcanic activity,
Still, I am working with Sweet Water Organics to help new world order, ice age, Gulf Current, natural disasters,
me past the growing knowledge, and I need to help Dark Knight Satellite, NASA, cosmic radiation, science
them with power - I have most of the junk-yard parts to and technology, atmosphere, 2012, cycle 24, solar storm
make our second gasifier to run a traditional 85KW
power plant - and we bought all the parts for our first http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EQQZq1xP2M
attempt at GEET to retro fit an old lincoln welder.

I also watch Searl, but I really have a hard time hearing

what he says. Another person of interest is Hector
(EVGRAY yahoo group) and his power factor correction
of Baldor motors to make very highly efficient motors
into a Rotoverter and Transverter - all off the shelf parts Dr. Bill Deagle - Animal Die-Offs, Earth In Peril
www.youtube.com
and the old fashion PFC of these motors - wiring the RV
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two phase power source using cap banks, and ground as
the third leg - to create a rotative capacitive effect that
self stabilizes the impedance matching task.

I did get a dozen tube vintage Swan HAM radios to have Patricia Howard March 9 at 1:19am Reply •Report
tunable LC tank circuits -- some to communicate if the The magnetosphere reverses every 11,500 years?
sun kills Internet, cell phones, and power grid - and
some for test equipment. I'm not sure what to make of this guy.

much of my work has continued during the winter by my

French associates/friends, Australia too - and they have
had promising results - and my idea using Xe also has
shown interesting results - and is backed up by crazy Patricia Howard March 9 at 1:20am Reply •Report
^ That ^ reference was made at approx. 40:30 Technology conference here in ABQ in July, and Paul
Pantone will be here again. I hope to spend more time
with him this time.

About a year and a half ago I built one of John's SSG

Patricia Howard March 9 at 1:39am Reply •Report devices, with of course electronic switching. It seemed
@ 56:15 he speaks of piezoelectric charges causing to run fine for about three minutes and then stop. I was
mass animal kills. clearly getting output but, as you say, it it devilishly hard
to measure (not having an oscilloscope) so I am not
sure of what the problems are. I'll be interested in your
efforts at mechanical switching. As an aside, the SSG
seemed to operate better at certain times of the month
Patricia Howard March 9 at 1:43am Reply •Report
and times of day (cf. Farrell) but i haven't taken the time
He thinks that airplanes will be taken down out of the to do an actual graphing of results, mainly with the
sky in the same way that birds are from these frustration of accurately measuring output. Oh well.......
piezoelectric discharges as the earth changes speed up. And Vince -- I installed a wood burning stove (a little
one second hand) in my shop two winters ago and it is
now a toasty and welcoming place to work anytime!

Patricia Howard March 9 at 1:54am Reply •Report Neil -- yes, I had heard that Challenger rumor (?) too,
but have not seen an actual write-up of that possibility.
@1:06:00 he starts speaking of Earth now beginning
If you happen to find it, post it. Thanks.
and "extinction level event"

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Patricia Howard March 9 at 2:04am Reply •Report

^ by 2013 ^
Vincent Cataldi March 9 at 4:10pm
Max :

Vincent Cataldi March 9 at 4:19am We set out to build a wood fire heating system - and by
The governments believe this is likely accident, invented a new type of Gassifier. There are
- some are trying to help, others working to self- plans for UpDraft, DownDraft, and CrossDraft gassifiers -
enrichment. we came up with a FrontDraft Gassifier.

It is really sweet, and it appears that 95% of all

'exhaust' is burnt again - amazing efficiency beyond the
firebox we used to copy.
Maxim Karl Rice March 9 at 9:41am Reply •Report
Thanks for the synopsis Patricia. So true Vince. Still working to identify what we did so we can do it
again smaller, but we vent all input air air under the
Vince, I'm so glad to hear you are still working on that grate - there is no flame, except at the very top of the
85kw generator with GEET modifications as power firebox where flames flicker to the front door, and the
source. I am signed up for the next Extraordinary exhaust is at the rear.
The wood just glows red hot - it is sweet !

The new goal is to make one that fits into a typical

Massive California Fish Kill Blamed on Natural Causes |
fireplace - our current system heats 80 gallons of water. Field & Stream
The firebox gets red hot if we are not careful - 800 www.fieldandstream.com
degrees - and we can heat hot water, and use in normal --Chad Love A massive fish die-off of an estimated 1 million
forced air furnace where the water passes through a sardines in Redondo Beach, California is being blamed on natural
auto radiator - have a third set of coils not yet used.. causes. From this story in the Los Angeles Times A day after
waking up to find a silvery carpet of dead fish on the surface of
King Harbor, Redondo Beach set about the enormo
At the moment we almost ran out of wood so we must Share
ration, and hope to make the new one work with a 4x4
inch lump of coal for 8 hours of heat. Accidents can be
exciting. Also, in spring and fall there is tons of free
wood, so we will be ready next winter.
Roo Reindeer March 10 at 9:00pm Reply •Report
Lot of strange things off WA.
That was where the sugar industry destroying weather
anomolies took place not too long ago if I recall
Patricia Howard March 9 at 8:43pm Reply •Report
correctly.
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dolphin-washes-ashore-this-year/

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7th blind Indus dolphin washes ashore this year zones-now-in-more-fr_b_833025.html
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Patricia Howard March 10 at 8:47pm Reply •Report

Experts say WA's coastal waters have seen the highest
rise in temperature in the world with up to 4C rise than
Patricia Howard March 11 at 12:12am Reply •Report
normally seen this summer.
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australia/thousands-of-dead-fish-have-been-washing-up-
on-wa-beaches/story-e6frg14u-1226018687597

OVER 15 THOUSAND! all kinds of fish wash ashore in

PERTH AUSTRALIA -- March 10, 2011
Thousands of dead fish have been washing up on WA www.youtube.com
beaches | Perth Now link to story below.. this is not good news... not good news at all..
www.perthnow.com.au im going to be taking a break for a few hours.. even if the end of
EXPERTS say that record temperatures and low oxygen levels are the world comes.. you won't find me reporting on it.. im very
to blame for dead fish being washed up on riverbanks and saddened by this being an animal
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Patricia Howard March 10 at 8:49pm Reply •Report Vincent Cataldi March 12 at 3:38am
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/field- ANY ONE - dose anyone mind if I capture this data and
notes/2011/03/massive-california-fish-kill-blamed- convert to pdf in public view ? ... or the first half at least
natural-causes ? ... :)
Roo Reindeer March 12 at 9:16am Reply •Report
No problem with me.
Sounds like a good idea.

Maxim Karl Rice March 12 at 9:40am Reply •Report

Good............