Joe Schnaier Deposition
Joe Schnaier Deposition
651538/2018
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 418 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 07/16/2021
Exhibit H
FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 07/16/2021 12:44 PM INDEX NO. 651538/2018
Joseph Schnaier Confidential
NYSCEF DOC. NO. 418 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 07/16/2021
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2 THE REPORTER° Will the witness 2 good moming.° My name is Steven Isser, I
3 kindly present a govemment-issued 3 represent1he rinferriards in this case,
4 identification by holding it uplo 4 LiveXLiveTK:kels, Inc., LiveXLive Media,
5 the camera for verification. 5 Inc. and Rob Ellin.
6 (Witness complies.) 6 As the court reporter said, although
7 THE REPORTER° Please state 7 this is being - this deposition is beng
8 your name for the record. 8 mrviir*ri by Zoom we're going 101reat it as
9 THE WITNESS:° Joseph Schnaier. 9 a New York deposition in all respecIs as is
10 THE REPORTER° What is your 10 agreed by counsel and yourself off the
11 current address? 11 record?
12 THE WITNESS:° 2170 Holland Way, 12 Before we start, Ijust wantio give
13 Menick, New York 11566. 13 you, for lack da betler word, ground rules
14 J O S E P H° °S C H N A I E R, having been 14 for the deposition.
15 frst duly sworn before a Nolary 15 Frst,1ry and give verbal answers
16 Public dthe Stated New York 16 10 my questions. The court reporter will be
17 was examined and lestified as 17 typing down the enswdinns and the answers and
18 follows: 18 she cannot type down nods or a shake of the
19 MR ISSER° Before we begin, I 19 heade So try and rarnamber to give verbal
20 just wantio state on the record that 20 answers. In addition, please try 10let me
21 rinfarwinrdn are designating this 21 linish my question before you startio
22 deposition, the transcipt, and the 22 answer.
23 exhibits as confidential pursuant lo 23 It's human nature when you
24 the mnfrinrdialilv order or 24 undersland the question 10begin 10 answer,
25 protective order in this case, I 25 but agan, the court reporter can't type us
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2 both talking at the same lime so just1ry lo 2 A To go work at a brokerage firm.
3 let me linish my question before you give 3 Q And what brokerage lirm was that?
4 your answer. 4 A I believe it was Sterling Fosler.
5 If you dont understand a question, 5 Q And what did you do for Sterling -
6 just please ask me 10rephrase it or let me 6 what year was this?
7 knowe I will try10 make the question 7 A I dont remember exactly.
8 underniandahIn And finaHy if you need a 8 Q Wei, if you graduated high school
9 break, this isnt a marnthnn. just ask for a 9 b '93, did you go straight10 colege out of
10 breake We wil reasonably accommodale 10 high school?
11 breaks, but if I have a question pending, I 11 A Yes.
12 may request you answer the question before we 12 O And about three years of colege?
13 have a break, but otherwise let us know if 13 A Roughly, apprrwimatelv
14 you need a break. 14 Q So, approximately 1996 would this
15 How old are you, Mr. Schnaier'? 15 be?
16 A 45. 16 A Possible.
17 Q And when were you bom? 17 Q WI righte And what was your
18 A July 17, 1975. 18 position at Sterling Foster'?
19 Q And where were you born? 19 A I was there training.
20 A Brooklyn, New York. 20 a Trainhg for whal?
21 Q And where were you raised? 21 A To be a broker.
22 A Brooklyn, New York. 22 O And did you become a broker'?
23 Q And what is the highest level of 23 A Yes.
24 education you received? 24 O WI righte When did you become a
25 A Three years of uni'versity, college. 25 broker'?
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2 Q Did you get a degree? 2 A I dont remember the exact dale.
3 A I didnt linishe I didnt fininh. 3 Q Were you still at Sterling Foster
4 I had one semester let, I think. 4 when you became a broker?
5 Q Where did you go lo high school? 5 A I believe I got Acensed whle I was
6 A Sephardic High School. 6 there Yes, it was part of the trabing
7 Q In Brooklyn? 7 program.
8 A Yes. 8 Q When did you become licensed as a
9 Q And when did you graduale? 9 broker'?
10 A I dont remember the exact year. I 10 A I dont recaHthe exact date.
11 think it was 93. 11 a WI righte WeH, how long were you
12 Q And where did you attend college? 12 at Stering Foster?
13 A I did a year b Israelc It was a 13 A I dont remembere Maybe a year or
14 program lo get college credils and then I 14 two Two years.
15 went lo Brooklyn College. 15 Q How long was the trainhg program?
16 Q At the time you stopped going, did 16 A I beHeve it was a year.
17 you have a major'? 17 Q WI righte And what did you do as a
18 A Business management, I believe. 18 broker for Sterling Foster'?
19 Q And I take it you did not receive a 19 A Notino muche Ijust got through
20 degree? 20 the training programe I got Heensed, and I
21 A Corrects I didntiinish. 21 dont beHeve I was there much longer aller
22 Q And why did you not thish coHege? 22 that.
23 A I had a good opportunity 10go lo 23 a WeH, could you describe what a
24 work and I took L 24 broker is for the record?° What kind of
25 Q What was that opportunity? 25 broker you were and what you did as a broker'?
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2 MR WURTZEL:° Objedian 10 2 their slock?
3 form. 3 A I mean, specilically, I dont know,
4 A We would be - we were trained 10 4 but its possible I did.
5 manage money for dienls. 5 Q So was it your job as a broker lo
6 Q. What does that mean?° How did you 6 manage dients investmenls?° You said -
7 manage their money? 7 withdrawn.
8 MR WURTZEL:° Objedian 10 8 As a broker managhg dients
9 form. 9 MvestmenIs, would you recommend cerlain
10 A We =manded and did some research 10 Mvestmenls inlo publically-traded companies
11 on ceriah companies to invest in. 11 by these dienis?
12 Q. And what kind of research would you 12 MR WURTZEL:° Objedion to
13 do? 13 form.
14 A I dont recall.° This was years ago. 14 A Ik not very dear on that question.
15 Q. Well, would you read their 15 Q AII right.° How long were you a
16 ananilian and exchange flings? 16 broker for?
17 A Possibly. 17 A Years.
18 Q. Did you? 18 O More than len years?
19 A I dont - 19 A Probably.
20 Q. As part of your duties as a broker 20 a More than 20 years?
21 at Sterling Fosler did you review exchange 21 A. No.
22 filings by companies you were considering 22 a AII right.° And in the - more than
23 recommending your dienls invest in? 23 15 years?
24 A Possible. 24 A Ik not sure.° I dnnimmember the
25 Q. You dont remember if you did? 25 exact dale that we stopped.
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2 A Not specilically. 2 Q Well, h the at leastian years
3 Q. Do you know what a anarilian and 3 you've been a broker, you aded as a broker,
4 exchange filing is?° Do you know what I mean 4 did you ever review lilings made by companies
5 by that term? 5 with the Securities and Exchange Comminninn
6 A Yes. 6 b order io evaluate whether it would be a
7 Q. And are you aware of whether 7 good investment for you or your dienls?
8 publically-trading companies have an 8 MR WURTZEL:° Objection 10
9 obligation 10file certain Mformation with 9 form.
10 the Securities and Exchange Cnmminninn? 10 a You can answer.
11 A Yes. 11 A Its possible I did.° I dont know
12 MR WURTZEL:° Hold on, 12 if I used that as a measure10 invest in
13 objedion.° Calls for the witness io 13 companies.
14 provide a legal condusion about SEC 14 Q So you dont - you dnnt haue a
15 regulations. 15 specific recollection of ever having reviewed
16 MR ISSER·° Josh, you could 16 securily and exchange filings b orderio
17 just say calls for a legal 17 recommend -
18 condusion.° As you admnnish 18 A Ik sure I have.° Ik sure I have.
oilen,
19 if I want a speaking nhierfinn, fll 19 a So then the answer is yes, you have
20 ask for it ° And I dont know that 20 reviewed securily and exchange filhgs made
21 thats a legal condusion. 21 by companies lo evaluale whether it would be
22 Q. So as a broker, have you ever read 22 a stock you'd =mand 10your dient or
23 ilings made by companies with the Securily 23 Mvest in yourself?
24 and Exchange Commission b order io determine 24 MR WURTZEL:° Objedion to
25 whether you would =mand someone purchase 25 form.
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2 Q Can you answer that question? 2 slarted.
3 A I said its posshe that I reviewed 3 Q As a broker, as a traheer As a
4 Singsc I didn't - everything else I don't 4 trahee lo be a broker.
5 know, youte pulling that - youte saying 5 A I would say between 10 and 16 years,
6 that 6 somethhg like that
7 Q Well, why would you review Sings? 7 Q Well, we were just saying you
8 A I said its posshe I reviewed 8 started at Slerlhg Foster probably b 1996,
9 Singsc I mean - 9 so from 199610 now would be 24 yearse So
10 Q I knowe Itn asking - I undarntand 10 lets say 20 plus years you've been in the
11 youte using the word possibler Itn asking 11 Mvestment industry?
12 you, do you have any specific ramilarsinn of 12 A Okay, I guess, if you say so.
13 ever reviewing any SEC Sing made by any 13 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10
14 public company?° Lers start there. 14 form.
15 A rm sure I have. 15 Q Well, its your life, Mr. Schnaier.
16 Q So its not just possible, you have; 16 This is your biography.
17 is that correct? 17 A I mean, I don't have the exact
18 A Yes. 18 datese If those are the dales then they are
19 Q And is it not just posshe, have 19 what they aree rm sorry, IYnnot trying 10
20 you ever reviewed an SEC Sing in order lo 20 upset you.
21 evaluate whether an Mvestment in that 21 Q AII right° You know what, Mr.
22 company would be good or not? 22 Schnaier, lets pick up with Exhibit68.
23 MR WURTZEL: Objection10 23 Open Exhibit68, please.
24 form. 24 A Okay.
25 Q Go ahead. 25 MR WURTZEL:° Youte lalkhg
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2 A In orderio evaluate, I mnt ananar 2 about lab 68?
3 you specifically on that 3 MR ISSER° Yes, when I say
4 Q Okay. 4 exhibit, its labe Yes.
5 A But its possue it was one of many 5 (Whereupon, at this lime, the
6 other you know, things that we did through 6 reporter marked the above-mentioned
7 research. 7 financial hdustry regulatory
8 Q Well,1ell me the things you did for 8 authority letter of acceptance,
Defendanls'
9 researche Were you a broker for ten years - 9 waiver and consent as
10 withdrawn. 10 Exhibit 1 for identilication.)
11 When did you stop being a broker, 11 BY MR ISSER
12 about 2006, 2007? 12 a Do you recognize1his dnmrnant?
13 A I believe it was I)7, if my memory 13 First, for the record, this is a thancial
14 serves me correctly. 14 hdustry regulatory authority letler of
15 Q What did you do after thal? 15 acceptance, waiver and consent.
16 A We went blo doing my own deals 16 Do you recognize this dnmrnant. Mr.
17 p ivately. 17 Schnaier'?
18 Q Investment deals? 18 A Yes.
19 A Yes, private equity stuff, myself. 19 a Okayc On the second 10last page of
20 Q And how long did you do that? 20 that dnmrnant, is that your signature?
21 A Up until now, I mean, Itn still 21 A Yes, it is.
22 doing L 22 O AII right° Now, if we look at
23 Q So you've been b the investmenls 23 background, it has Joseph Schnaier frst
years·
24 industry for 25 plus is that accurate? 24 became registered with FINRA as a general
25 A It depends on when you say that I 25 securities reprananIntive in November 1995
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2 through a former member lirm; is that 2 know, if you have or is that your
3 accurate? 3 testimony?
4 A Where do you see that? 4 A rm saying I dont know if I read a
5 Q Under background on the frst page. 5 liling in orderio make an investment b a
6 A under A is background. 6 companye I dont necessariy.
7 A Acceptance and consent, ch, here it 7 Q AII righte Well, when you, eilher
8 is Okayc If it says it, I believe Es 8 as a broker or in any other capacity, when it
9 accurate. 9 concems an investment, whether by yourself
10 Q Do you think it might not be 10 or for a dient, what steps would you lake lo
11 accurate? 11 determhe whether you felt it was a good
12 A No, I believe it is accurate if it 12 Mvestmenl?
13 says it I dont know why you would say 13 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10
14 that. 14 form.
15 Q Thank your So I dont know why you 15 A I mean, there's many thingsc rd
16 wouldnt just say yes, Es accurate. 16 look at the management team, see how honest
17 Can you explain why you didnt just 17 they are, see their reputatione I would look
18 say yes, Es accurale? 18 at their linancialse I would look at their
19 MR WURTZEL: Objection10 19 business model, I would like at ther - I
20 form. 20 mean, there's many things I would look at.
21 Q You can answer the question. 21 And Is possible, like you said, Is
22 A I dont know what the question was. 22 posshe that their filings may be one of
23 Q Why didnt you just say yes, Es 23 many things that I would look at.
24 accurate, if you believe Es accurale? 24 a You keep saying Es possiblec Do
25 A I thought I did. 25 you know, yes or no, did you h the past
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2 Q AII righte Now, does this refresh 2 review SEC lilings as part of your
3 your remllarfinn then that you've been in 3 rinterminatinn concemhg whether to make an
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2 their filings, it could be, you know, stuff 2 Q To you directly?
3 that they put out on releases.° It could be 3 A Yes.
4 stuff1hat they have on their own proprietary 4 Q And only you?
5 silec It could be stuff that they sent me, 5 A Yese Well, I dont know.° They
6 you know. 6 could send itio other peoplec I dont know
7 Q Press releases?° You said releases, 7 if its only me.
8 is that press releases? 8 Q How do you get this proprietary
9 A Not -rilv press releases, 9 release?
10 certain releases that they dide Company 10 A You request it from the company.
11 releases. 11 O Is it a specific request or are you
12 Q What kind of releases are there 12 on a listio get that proprietary release?
13 other than press releases? 13 A I couldnt answer that.
14 A Oh, I dont knowe There's probably 14 Q You get them, you just said you
15 many diBerent kinds of releases. 15 reviewed L° How do you get -
16 Q Sir, you just - you said you would 16 A Its possible I ask for it, I do
17 review releasesc I said press releases, you 17 request L
18 said not =rilyc So which releases did 18 O For these proprietary releases -
19 you review for companies that were not press 19 rm not familiar with the lerm, so these
20 releases? 20 proprietary releases, is it you either make a
21 A Well, companies have proprietary 21 phone call or send an e-mail lo a company
22 releases that they put out there, too. 22 asking for certain ininrrnatinn and they
23 Q What are those?° Can you explain? 23 respond 10you or is there a subscription
24 rve never heard of that. 24 service or anrnalhinn Ike that that you could
25 A rve seen, you know, certain 25 sign up and you would get it from the
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2 companies put ralannas oute So you would 2 company?° Itn
asking, how did you obtain
3 assume that public ininrrnatinn, you know, is 3 these proprietary releases?° And if its more
4 correct.° Iwould use that as well. 4 than one way in the past, lell me.
5 Q No, my question is, what is a 5 Did you request specilic ininrrnatinn
6 proprietary release? 6 from a company and they sent itio you?° Did
7 A Stuff that companies give. 7 you sign up for some kind of subscription or
8 Q What does that mean?° What stuff? 8 get on some list where they would send you
9 Give10 who? 9 releases as part of the process of sending
10 MR. WURTZEL: Objection10 10 releases10 others? Or were there other ways
11 form. 11 you could get these proprietary releases, or
12 A Information that I receive from 12 did in the past get them?
13 companies, in the case rm looking at. 13 MR. WURTZEL:° Objection.
14 Q I dont understande They send it 14 Objection10 form.
15 justio you?° You said a proprietary release. 15 A You can request theme There's stuff
16 I wantio undarntand 16 that they put out there that you can read.
17 MR. WURTZEL: Objection 10 17 Different publicationse I dont know. I
18 form. 18 dont know what you're asking me.
19 A I said possibly. 19 a frn going 10blerrupt you because I
20 Q No, rm askhg - rm gong 10 20 want an answer.
21 interrupt you because I want an answer. 21 You said you reviewed proprietary
22 You used the term proprietary 22 releasese We're not now1alkhg in
23 releasec I just wantio know what that is. 23 spanulatinn or whats possblec This is what
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2 you said nnt n-rilv press releases, 2 potential investmenls, whether for yourself
3 proprietary releases. rm tryng to tigure 3 or others, would you read press releases by
4 out what it is. 4 the comparry?
5 When you got proprietary releases10 5 A Would I read a press release?
them?° Not its Q Yes?
6 review, how did you get 6
7 possible. How did you get this proprietary 7 A Why not?
8 release? Was it a specific response or 8 Q Have you?° Is that part of your
9 request of a company you made for 9 evaluation?
10 information? Do you ask beyond some kind of 10 A Oh, I dont know if its part of my
11 subscription or pay for or get for free a 11 evaluation, but I do read press releases,
12 blast that comes out10 other people that 12 its important.
13 youte calling a proprietary release? Is it 13 a And its part of your analysis of
14 other ways you got it?° Is it more than one 14 the management team to datarmine if theyte
15 way? 15 honest.° How would you make that
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2 you requent inlimrnatinn from companies 2 Q Where would you get their bios?
3 drectly. Sometimes they give it, sometimes 3 A A lot of it is online, a lot of it,
4 they wonte There are publications out there 4 you know, stuff like that.
5 that have different corporate releases in 5 Q What do you mean online?° How would
6 them that I reade Thars pretty much L 6 you thd their bio online?
7 Its not really - I wasnt Irying 10- 7 A I mean, you could look it up, you
8 youte asking something rm not sure what 8 know, on, you could do a searche You could
9 youte really - 9 look up everyone's bio.
10 Q What kind of puhirmlinna have what 10 a Is that what you did 10lind out the
11 khd of releases? 11 bios of management?° Did you search onlhe
12 A I dont knowc Dillierent news. I 12 when you -
13 read stuff all over the place. 13 A What management are you lalking
14 Q You said that publications1hat have 14 about?
15 dilinrant relamana ° When you say, I read 15 Q Any and alle You told me when I
16 releases, I assumed that only meant press 16 asked you what infnrmatinn you would look at
17 releasesc You seem io thhk there's other 17 10evaluate an Mvestment, you said you'd
18 khds of releasese rm tryng 10figure out 18 look at the management team.
19 what those are. 19 A Yes, its possible I did, yes.
20 What relamans are in other 20 a I know its possiblec rm1alking
21 publications? 21 about what you dide What do you still do?
22 A I would read a lot of stuffe So 22 You've been in the Mvestment industry for 25
23 whatever you, you know, whatever is out 23 years and youte lelling me that as part of
24 there I read a late I love readhg. 24 your analysis you would evaluate the
25 Q Well, as part of your evaluation of 25 management team and see if theyte honest.
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2 rrn asking you what you would do lo 2 Q AII right.° And why did you leave
3 evaluate that ° That's it ° What have you 3 Sierling Foster?
4 done in the last 25 years? 4 A. I got an oIer at another firm.
5 A Are you asking me about specifics? 5 Q What lirm?
6 MR WURTZEL:° Hold on, Joe. 6 A. I believe, if my mmilarfinn is
Investors' Ammintma
7 Objection 10form. 7 correct, it was
Investors'
8 Q. No.° rm asking you any and all 8 Q And what did you do at
9 companies. What have you done in the past 25 9 Associates?
10 years io evaluate a management team, 10 A. I was a broker there.
honesty? Inveslors'
11 particularly their 11 Q And how long were you at
12 MR WURTZEL: Objection 10 12 Associates?
13 form. 13 A I dont remember.
14 A Any and all? 14 O Was it more than two years?
15 Q. Anything you can remember that 15 A. Maybe.° I dont recall.
16 you've done lo evaluale a management1eam. 16 Q Was it a day?
17 A Youte saying any and all companies, 17 A. Come on.° No.
18 is that what youte saying? 18 O IYn asking you lo give me a ballpark
19 Q. rm saying anythhg you can mmamhar 19 estimate of how long you were there.
20 that you've done10 evaluate a management 20 A. This was a while ago.° I really
21 leam, for any company, for any potential 21 dont remember.° I don't wantio give you an
22 inveslor. 22 answer justio give you an answere I really
23 A I gave you my answer, thafs the 23 dont remember.
24 best I can her ° I mean, wete going 24 O You have no idear AII right.
25 back and forth here. 25 And what did you - you were a
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2 Q. You search online10 delermine 2 broker at Associalese What did
3 whether to recommend an investmentio a 3 you do as a broker'?
4 dient?° Ijust wantio make dear I 4 MR WURTZEL:° Objection 10
5 undeminnd 5 forme Are you askhg hrn at
Inveslors'
6 A I didnt say that. 6 AmrinIns or generally?
7 Q Well, rm askinge What was your 7 Q Well, let me aske Did you perform
Investors'
8 answer then because that seemed 10be your 8 the same function as a broker at
9 answer. 9 Amrintma as you did at Stering Foster?
10 MR WURTZEL: Objection10 10 A Pretly much.
11 form. 11 a AII righte What was that function?
12 Q What would you do besides search 12 A The same thing Ilold you at
13 online? 13 Steringe We managed money for dienls.
14 A Ilold you, there's a whole - you 14 Q So you would evaluate potential
15 know, many different thhgs I would do 10 15 Mvestments for dienis and mmmmand whether
research the company. not?
16 16 they make those Mvestments or
17 Q.° Tell me the
many digerent thhgs. 17 A Pretly much.
18 A I went through it with you already. 18 Q And what was - where did you work
Investors'
19 Q Noc AII righte You said you'd 19 after Associates?
20 review the linancials, you'd review releases, 20 A I thhk it was - I forget the name
21 you'd look MIo the management1same What 21 of the firm but it was on 39 Rmadwar I
22 else? Anything else? 22 forgot the name of the firm, sony.
23 A rm sure there's more, I cant - 23 a Mr. Schnaier, let me ask you, is
24 MR WURTZEL: Objection 10 24 there any - are you on any medinatinn today?
25 forme Asked and answered. 25 A No.
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2 Q Is there any reason you wont be 2 aller Jensen Meyers?
3 able 10, medical reason, that you wniildnt he 3 A I think it was Montauk Financial. I
4 able 10answer my questions honestly or 4 could be wrong, by the wayc I dont have it
5 completely1oday? 5 b front of mer My CRV has it all.
6 A No. 6 Q Sony?
7 Q How long were you at this lirm, was 7 A IYnsorrye My CRV has everything on
8 it 39th Streel? 8 it So, you know, I dont have it b front
9 A Noc I believe it was on 39 9 of me, I didnt know I needed L
10 Rrnadwav ° Gray somethinge I forgot the name 10 a When did you go lo - IYn sony, did
11 of the firm. 11 you say Frst Monlauk?
12 Q AII righte Wel call it the 39 12 A No, I said Montauk Financial.
13 Rrnadwavlirme What did you do there? 13 a And what did you do at Monlauk
14 A I was a broker theree Slockbroker. 14 Financial?
15 Q And how long were you a broker 15 A I was a stockbroker
16 there? 16 Q Same duties and responsibilities as
17 A I think it was - like a year or 17 we discussed previously?
18 twoc It was right up unti 9/112 And then 18 A Yes.
19 we were about two blocks away from 9/11 and 19 a Dong the same thing at Sterling
Investors'
20 aRer that they shut it downe The owner had 20 Foster, Amnciatan, 39 Broadway
21 a panic altark and he didnt wantio work 21 lirm, Jensen & Meyers?
22 there anymore. 22 A Yes.
23 Q So thats 20012 And did you do the 23 a And how long were you at Mnntainlo
24 same thing as a broker at the 39 Broadway 24 A I dnnirecall exacIly
25 firm as you did previously? 25 O Let me ask you this:° Looking back
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2 A Yes. 2 at Exhibit 68 on the background, it says,
3 Q And where did you wnrk nRar that? 3 Between 1995 and 2006 Schnaier was employed
4 A I think it was Jensen & Meyers, but 4 at 10 other member firms.
5 I could have missed - it may have been 5 Is that accurale?
6 Jensen Meyers, the frm on 39 Broadway, or 6 A I believe so.
7 opposite, one of the two. 7 Q AII righte And were you a broker at
8 Q What did you do at Jensen Meyers? 8 all those firms during 1995 and 20067
9 A I was a stockbroker. 9 A I believe so.
10 Q Same functions as previously? 10 a And in 2006, did you work at
11 A Yes. 11 Prestige Financial Center'?
12 Q How long were you at Jensen Meyers? 12 A Yes.
13 A A couple of years. 13 a AII righte And were you a broker
14 Q Why did you leave Jensen & Meyers? 14 for Prestige?
15 A I believe I wanted 10open up my own 15 A Yes.
16 practice at that time. 16 O And it says here, Prestige filed a
17 Q When was this? 17 uniform tarrninatinn notice for securities
18 A Probably10 the best of my 18 hdustry registration, tarrninathy Schnaier's
19 ramllarfinn - I honestly dont remember the 19 registration as of that date.
20 datese Itn just gong 10be spamlath) 20 What does that mean?
21 Q Were you fired from any of these 21 A I dont knowc I dont recall that.
22 jobs you leR before? 22 a You dont recall that?
23 A No, not10 the best of my 23 A No.
24 recollection, no. 24 O Did you get a 1ermination notice?
25 Q AII righte And where did you go 25 A I dont recall thatc No.
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2 Q You dont know what that means? 2 A Oh, yes.
3 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10 3 Q What deals were those?
4 form. 4 A I dont recall.
5 Do you know what that mmrm?° I know 5 Q You dont recall any deals that you
6 you might not recall it, do you know what 6 did in the last 12 years?
7 that means?° You were a securities broker. 7 A The latest one was the acquisition
8 Did you have lo lake a testio become a 8 of Wantickels.
9 licensed securities broker? 9 Q And what was before that?
10 A Yes. 10 A There was some technology companies
11 Q. And you passed that test, I lake il? 11 I invested in.
12 A Yes. 12 Q Which ones?
13 Q. And as a licensed securities broker, 13 A QV Technology.
14 were you aware of FINRA - do you know what 14 Q Any others?
15 FINRA is? 15 A Seed Softwarec Maybe some other
16 A Yes. 16 ones; I dont remember the rest.
17 Q. Would you be aware of their rules 17 Q AII righte And in these technningy
18 and regulations? 18 companies, what steps did you take lo
19 A Yes. 19 evaluate whether you should hvest or not?
20 Q Okayc So rm asking you, do you 20 A Just did my - whatever steps I
21 know what a uniform lermbation notice for 21 thought was necessiny 10invest.
22 mritim industry registration is that you 22 Q And what were those steps that you
23 filed? 23 did?
actually
24 A Yes. 24 A I looked at the business model, I
25 Q. And what is il? 25 looked at the management teame I looked at
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2 A Its a 1ermination of a 2 what mme of these companies were pre revenue
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2 Q. I forgot10 add that in.° So frn 2 A So back when I was at Montauk
3 curious if you have a lishing and gaming 3 Financial, they - we were trying - my
4 license, of course. But lets make it 4 partner and I were, Harry Friedman, we were
5 professionaHy, I think thats a good idea. 5 gong 10apply for our own brnieridealer
6 What pmfanninnal licenses have you 6 Ik:ense ° And when we put in our application
7 had? 7 we had 10show where we got funds to back up
8 A Oh, akay.° My Series 7 and my Series 8 the broker/dealer.
9 63. 9 So when we showed them everylhing,
10 Q. So you slil currently hold those 10 for all transparency, there was a company
11 licenses? 11 that we sold shares in that we made money on
12 A No. 12 parannallv ° And they asked us about it and
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2 Q. And do you currently hold those 2 dnmmanis, a lot of our computer - a lot of
3 licenses - withdrawn. 3 stuff got damaged
4 Are there any other prnfanninnal 4 So they went back lo Montauk
5 licenses you've ever hekf? 5 Financial lo ask them for the documents and
6 A No. 6 by then the owner of Montauk Financial sold
7 Q. Do you stil hold a Series 7 7 the firm, I believe, thats my
8 roense? 8 recollection - the best of my remilarsinn
9 A No. 9 And the new management, the new ownership,
10 Q. Why nol? 10 didnt have it or there was something going
11 A I gave it back.° We did a 11 on - for some reason they didnt have it
12 resignation back in 2007. You saw this 12 either.
13 letter. 13 So then they went back - they liled
14 Q. What do you mean a resignation? 14 a - they said, Okay, if no one has it, that
15 Explain; you know, was your license revoked 15 means you didnt get perminninn, they
16 by FINRA? 16 assumede And they brought us b for a, I
17 A No.° It was a mutual - I gave it - 17 guess, it was a panel, an arbitration,
18 I retumed it ° I gave it back. 18 whatever you wantio call L° And they
19 Q. Voluntarily? 19 wanted full - it ended up aRer hearing the
20 A Yes. 20 whole case, we only got lined like 77,000 and
21 Q Was it part of any investigation by 21 some - and a sit-out for, l think, a couple
22 FINRA into wrongdoing? 22 of months.
23 A No. 23 But throughout that whole process,
24 Q So why did you volunlarly give up 24 which io me was really, you know, not right,
25 your Series 7 roense? 25 I got pretty disgustad with that whole
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2 indusby, the way they went about L 2 you know, diarninfnd by thisc And I said,
3 And by that time, by that year, I 3 enough, you know, I had enoughe And that's
-
4 spoke lo my atiomey and we had said we're 4 probably maybe I made the right danininn
5 out of it ° rm not paying the the, rm not 5 or maybe I made the wrong decision, I dont
6 sitting out, you can have your license back. 6 really knowc But thats where we are.
7 I was already just disgusted by the 7 Thats my answer.
8 indusbye And that was pretly much the 8 Q When I asked you if you nianandarad
9 story. 9 your license b paragraph - concerning lab
10 Q Well, rm going - 10 68, the exhibit whatever it is, you said it
11 A Really what disgusted me the most - 11 was not in connection with any investigation
12 Q AII right, Mr. Schnaiere You 12 correct?° You surrandarad your
by FINRA,
13 answered my questione I dont wantio 13 license because of your disgust.
14 hear - 14 I wantio lurn your attention 10 -
15 A rm notlinished. 15 back lo lab 68 and it says, at the very
16 MR WURTZEL:° Steve, let him 16 beginning, Pursuant lo FINRA Rule 9216 of
17 linish the answere Hold one What 17 FINRA's code of prnmdura Joseph Schnaier
18 was the question? 18 submils this letler of acceptance and waiver
19 MR ISSER' The question was 19 and consent with the purpose of proposhg a
20 whether - 20 settlement of the alleged rule violations
21 MR WURTZEL:° No, no, rm 21 dancrihad below.
22 asking the court reporter what the 22 Now, this AWC is submitted on the
23 question was. 23 condition that if accepted, FINRA will not
24 MR ISSER·° Okayc Read back 24 brhg any future actions against respondent
25 the question, wel see how far off 25 unless1he violations based on same factual
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2 poht we got. 2 lindings described therein.
3 Read back the question. 3 Does that refresh your recollection
4 (Whereupon, at this lime, the ranuanlad 4 whether your surrendering of your license
5 portion was read by the reporter.) 5 was, b fact, part of a settlement onnearninn
6 Q AII right, go on. 6 a FINRA investigation?
7 MR WURTZEL:° His answer was 7 MR WURTZEL:° Objection 10
8 entirely responsivec He can finish 8 form.
9 the answer. 9 A Thafs what I was explaining 10you.
Q Okay, linish your answer. -
10 10 They found I guess the panel found that,
11 MR WURTZEL:° You can continue, 11 you know, they fined us, I think it was
12 Joe. 12 $77,000, and a 90-day sit-oute And that was,
13 A What really, really got me upset was 13 I guess, the - I didnt - that was, I
14 when they brought in the old owner of 14 guess, the mnnidarntinn for me handhg over
15 Mnnta k this gentleman, Herb Kalinski, great 15 the license, 10the best of my recollection.
16 guye We got along great with him, and he 16 Q AII righte But - lets look at
17 was - he was getthg up there b ager And 17 lab -
18 when they asked him about this letter 18 A I wouldnt call that an
19 permitting us io buy and sell the shares, he 19 Mvestigatione I mean, that wasnt really -
-
20 literally he said that he really had no 20 it was more of an admhistrative issue. I
21 ramilarfinn because he's on antidepressant 21 mean, you can call it an Mvestigation, but I
22 medication and dementia medicatione You 22 wouldnt call it an investigation.
23 know, he had memory loss and stuff like that. 23 a Well, its a settlement of alleged
24 And they still prnmadad with the case. 24 rule violatione It was part of a settlement
25 And thats really the reason I was, 25 you surrendered your license, correct?
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2 MR WURTZEL:° Objection 10 2 A Whal?
3 form. 3 O It says, FacIs and violative
4 A It was an administrative issue. 4 conduct
5 Youte making it look like it was an 5 A I dont know.
6 investigation. It really wasnt an 6 O Well, it says, if you look under
7 investigation. 7 facIs and violative conduct under number two,
8 Q. Well, what was the ariminintrative 8 it says, Schnaier - they requesled your
9 issue? 9 appearance b connection with ongoing FINRA
10 A They wanted a letler, I explained 10 examinatinn conceming 2006 and 2007 sales of
11 that10 you. 11 shares of slock in a nonpublic corporation,
12 Q. AII right.° Lers look at tab 67. 12 Schnaier failed 10appear for this requested
OTR·
13 (Whereupon, at this time, the 13 is that correct?
14 reporter marked the above-mentioned 14 A I dont see anything about that
Dafanrianin'
15 hearhg panel decision as 15 Q AII right
16 Exhibit 2 for iderdifirstinn ) 16 A I mean, we had the company when they
17 BY MR ISSER 17 werent public, but, yeah, I dont see
18 Q. Have you seen this rinrumant hafnre? 18 anything in regards10 that
19 It says Fhancial Industry Regulatory 19 a Itn just trying 10firid where it
20 Authority Ollice of Hearing Ollicers, 20 says you're submilthn -youte resigning
21 correct? 21 your license because you werent giving them
22 A Yes. 22 a letter.
23 Q. This is the decision where you were 23 A. Oh, thats not what I said 10you.
24 ined the $77,000 and all that, correct? 24 With all due respect, I didnt say that I
25 Everything you've been lestifying 10,this is 25 said I resigned - I gave back - I resigned
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2 in this document, correct? 2 back my license because I was disgusted with
3 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10 3 the whole way everythhg went about, and on
4 form. 4 their end, rm assuming, and I dont know
5 A It looks like L 5 exactly, but they probably - their deal was
6 Q. AII right° And youte saying 68 6 10accept it without me makhg payment or
7 concerns the same discplhary prnemarting - 7 sitting out and justlaking the license back.
8 Exhbit 1, rather, concerns the same 8 Is that clear for you?
2.° Ijust Q Irinn't knr=. we¶ figure it out
9 discplhary proceeding as Exhibit 9
10 wantio make sure I undersland. 10 A. Okay.
11 A rm sony, what was that? 11 Q How many public properties have you
12 Q. Does Exhibit 2 - Exhbit 1 which is 12 had a role in in your - as an investor or
13 the letter of acceplance concems the same 13 banker or Inanagamant?° rrn not talking about
14 disciplinary prnnaariing as Exhbit 2, which 14 just buying stock in General Motors.
15 is the hearing paners decision? 15 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10
16 A Exhibit 1? 16 form.
17 Q. The hearhg paners decision and the 17 THE WITNESS:° Just one second,
18 letter of acceptance, waiver and consent, are 18 can I gat smmathing for my daughter?
19 you lelling me they concern the same 19 MR ISSER° Go ahead.
20 prnnaariing? 20 (Whereupon, a brief recess was
disciplinary
21 A To the best of my recollection, yes. 21 laken.)
22 That was the case. 22 A. Was there a question?
23 Q. AII right° And where in Exhibit 1, 23 a Yes. Since you stopped acting as a
24 which is lab 68, does itialk about you not 24 broker, how many public companies have you
25 giving a letter? 25 Mvested in?
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2 A I dont recall any. 2 Q Yes, we aree rm sorry.
3 Q. Really? 3 A Oh, I didnt know thatc IW sony.
4 A Other than LiveXLive, I mean, Loton, 4 Q IYn going 10withdraw that question.
5 whatever you wantio call L 5 Have you ever been involved in
Q You didnt recall thatc Are there public?° Do you know what
6 6 laking companies
7 any others that you recalr? 7 that term means?
8 A Well, I mean, obviously weYe here 8 MR WURTZEL:° Objection 10
9 for that, so I know that you know thatc Itn 9 form.
10 thinking other than that, Irinnt ramil any. 10 A What is your delinition of il?
11 Q How about nonpublic companies?° How 11 O Itn asking your Have you ever heard
12 many have you Mvested in? 12 the term going public or laking a company
13 A Maybe - just a couple. 13 public9
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2 resigned your Heense? 2 A What, like, acting as the
3 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10 3 Mvestment - explain, be more specific.
4 form. 4 Because there's many roles in laking the
5 A I believe soc I know when I gave it 5 company public.
6 back, I wasnt planning 10come back anyway. 6 Q Any rolec Have you ever been
7 So its possible its a lifetime ban. 7 Mvolved in any role h iaking a company
8 Q Now, concerning Exhibit 2, which is 8 public?
9 the hearing panel decision, this concems a 9 A Thafs a very vague question. I
10 company Majesco, correct? 10 mean, its not, you know, how do you answer
11 A Correct. 11 that?° Its
somethhg like very
12 Q They alleged that you illegally 12 unprofessional -
13 traded stocke Is that part of - 13 a I appreciate your criticism of my
14 A No. 14 ablities, but I wantio know the roles
15 MR WURTZEL: Objection. 15 you've played hiaking a company public.
16 Minrharnrfarizese The document 16 A Steve, Itn not trying 10insult you.
17 speaks for ilself. 17 Q IYnnot hsulted at alle Itn just
18 Q Have any investors ever sued you 18 surprised you said you find it a difficult
19 concerning your role in their investmen1s? 19 question 10answer
20 MR WURTZEL: Objection 10 20 Have you ever been involved in
21 form. 21 public?° If rd ask most
laking a company
22 A Not as far as Majesco. 22 people, they would have a pretly ready answer
23 Q Not Majesco. 23 10that question.
24 A Are we done with this exhibit?° Are 24 A Nor Because involved is not really
25 we done with this exhibit? 25 a term that people use when you are saying
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2 youte taking a company publice I mean, its 2 LiveXLive or Lobn Corp. or whatever that is,
3 not - I never heard that lerme If you could 3 whalever those companies are.
4 ask me something more specific. 4 Q Any other companies?
5 Q Did you ever participate h iaking a 5 A Is that considered a reverse merger
6 company public b any
way? 6 10you or is that not -
7 A You mean as far as like buying IPO 7 Q IYn asking you, any other companies.
8 slock and stuf like that? 8 A To the best of my recollection, no.
9 Q Well, if you have that, yes, 9 O Just Majesco?
10 anything, not just dealer stock, you know. 10 A Well, was LiveXLive and Lolon Corp.
11 You know all the rules, you've been in this 11 mmiri-«l a reverse merger?
12 industry for 20 yearse You1old me youte in 12 O Putting LiveXLive and Lalon Corp.
13 privale equityc If you dont understand what 13 aside.
14 Ilw mannn we can spend an hour on it, I 14 A To the best of my recollection, yes.
15 guess, but Itn askhg if you ever played a 15 Q How did you meet Rob Blin?
role or participated, rather, in laking a A -
16 16 During the time of I met the
17 company public. 17 owners of Majesco back in 90 - it was the
18 A Sure, I have. 18 late '90sc And we started speaking and they
19 Q Okayc And lell me about those 19 were interested, they had a really
20 times. 20 Haranting video game company at that time.
21 A I dont knowc I mean, I dont 21 And they were interested in going public. I
22 recall, you know, which ones, but have I 22 dont recall what lirm I was with at that
23 invested or bought an IPO or stuff like that, 23 lime, possible I was with Montauk Financial.
24 I mean, its possible I have, Itn surec But 24 And they asked if I can help them raise some
25 I dont recall anything specific. 25 capital.
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2 Q AII right ° Putting aside maybe 2 And my partner at the same - around
3 buyng slock from an IPO, have you ever 3 that smma time, withh a week or so, his
4 bought stock from an IPO rather from the 4 mother passed away or his brother passed
5 underwriters as opposed 10on the market? 5 away, IYn sorry, and someone came lo him at
6 A Bought sbck - 6 the shiva call, when he was sitting shiva, by
7 MR. WURTZEL:° Objection10 7 the name of Dan Meyers, who I knew as a kid,
8 form. 8 not professionally, but as a kid before.
9 A Bought sbck from the underwriters. 9 And he said that he mentioned, I
10 Well, if you buy sbck from the urviarwritars, 10 guess, 10 my partner, Harry, that he may have
11 that is the IPO2 Youte buying the IPO. 11 a shell or some way lo raise capitale And
12 Q AII righte fm not going 10get 12 then he brought Rob Blin into the deale Rob
13 into it ° AII right, fine. 13 had some shell called, 10the best of my
14 Do you know what a reverse merger 14 ramilarginn. Connective Corp. or something.
15 is? 15 a You answered my question, thats how
16 A Yes, I do. 16 you met Rob Blin.
17 Q What is a reverse merger'? 17 A IYnnot thished.
18 A Its when a - you merge a private 18 MR. ISSER·° You know what,
19 company into a publically-traded shell 19 lets mark thisc I would like you lo
20 company. 20 mark these answers because I thhk
21 Q Have you ever participated in a 21 weYe going 10need more lime 10
22 reverse merger? 22 finish this deposition and the
23 A Yes, I have. 23 question how did you meet Rob Blin,
24 Q For which companies? 24 you could argue whafs responsive,
25 A Majescoc And if you wantio call 25 but hearhg about a shiva call and
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2 Majesco and the whole lead off, I 2 A Not that I recall.
3 think the witness is frankly wasting 3 Q Have you discussed this lawsuit with
4 time lo try and stall the clocke rm 4 anyone other than your counser?
5 gong 10move on. 5 A frn sure.
6 Q rm going 10ask you how many deals 6 Q Okayc Who?
7 have you done with Rob Ellin, either directly 7 A Everyone who knows me knows that rm
or indirectly, for the company you were lawsuit°
8 8 dealing with this They all know
9 involved with? 9 what happenedc They all know Rob ruined my
10 A Can I thish how I met Rob Ellin 10 lifec So everyone who knows me is going 10
11 because I didnt get to do that? 11 ask me about L
12 Q You answered mer Someone mentinnarl 12 a So you've been lelling people that
13 hrn at a shiva call. 13 Rob ruined your life?
14 MR WURTZEL:° Hold one First 14 A I dont have1o lell anything,
15 of all, I objectio the question. 15 people see how everything happened.
16 You asked an open-ended question, how 16 Q What have you been 1elling people
17 did you meet somebodye You wantio 17 about Rob Blin?
18 ask a more specilic question, who 18 A You know, I tell them whatever I
19 Mtroduced you, can you do thal? 19 feel.
20 MR ISSER·° Thats finer rm 20 a And what was that?
21 asking a more specific question now. 21 A rd rather not saye Its not going
22 rve heard enough. 22 10be anything - the way I feel about him,
23 MR WURTZEL: So specify, get a 23 thats L
24 little more specific and, Joe, answer 24 a What is thal?° What have you1old
25 just the specific question. 25 people about Rob Ellin?
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2 THE WITNESS:° rm sony, Steve, 2 MR WURTZEL:° rm just going
3 if I am iakhg loo long. 3 10- I think you underslood it from
4 Q You dont have10 apologizec How 4 the response before, but you should
5 many deals have you done with Rob Ellin, 5 exdude anythhg that you've 1old10
6 either directly or indirectly, meaning either 6 counsel from your answere So you can
7 with companies you were Mvolved with or 7 answere But exdude anything you've
8 personally? 8 1oldcounsel about Mr. Blin.
9 A I wasnt drectly involved with Rob 9 A II put itio you this wayc If I
10 Blin He had that shell, like I said, he 10 would have known priorio me doing the
11 had the shell and I had - I introduced the 11 deal -
12 company. 12 a rm going 10Mterrupt you, Mr.
13 Q Thats indirectly, Joer How many 13 Schnaier, rm interrupting you.
14 deals, rm gong 10interrupt you again, Joe. 14 A Why are you blerrupting me?
15 rm asking a specilic question. 15 O Because the question is, whet hmue
16 How many deals have you been 16 you1old people about Rob Ellh?
17 involved with with Rob Ellh, either through 17 A frn going 10give itio you.
18 Rob personally or a company you were involved 18 If I would have known priorio doing
19 with or worked for, or a company Rob was 19 the Wantirkets deal with Rob what I know
20 involved with or worked for'?° How many deals 20 after the deal, and what people have1old me
21 have you done with Rob Blin? 21 about raintinnnhips with him and all this
22 A Well, just those - if you wantio 22 stuff that came out after, his dealings with
23 say involved, I dont knowc But just Majesco 23 other people, none of it was goodc rm not
24 and LiveXLive. 24 b the - rm not a person that wanls10 talk
25 Q Nothing else? 25 bad about peopler I dont wantio do that,
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2 holidays.° So I lime you and Rob dinrssand LiveXLive or
especially durhg the Jewish 2
3 dont wantio - dont ask me what I think 3 Lalon?
4 about or what Ilold everyone because I dont 4 A I was b LA with my falher and I
5 wantio spank shrud. bad about him.° And a 5 was there for work for Wardickels since we
6 lot - I heard a lot of bad things abrud h'rn 6 had our oflices in LA as well.
7 from other people's relationships with him, 7 Q When was that?
8 and I really dont wantio get inlo that 8 A I was with -
9 right now. 9 Q I asked when was the frst lime, Mr.
10 Q. Thats fine. 10 Schnaier'?° I didnt ask you about your
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2 you name it, its been really bade As a 2 you want.° Are you going 10hold me
3 matter of fact, you know, its honible. 3 10one day with Mr. Schnaier or am I
4 Q Did you ask anyone about Rob Ellin 4 going 10be able lo tinish what I
5 before you got involved with Rob Ellh about 5 need 10thish?
6 the LiveXLive Wantickels dear? 6 MR WURTZEL:° rm not
7 A I wish I dide I dont remember. I 7 stipulating 10 anythhg right now.
8 dont recall anything substantial about it 8 We've been going for an hourc So at
9 Put it this way, I knew hrn from a distance 9 the end of the day, if you think that
10 and he came off really trustworthy lo me. I 10 you need more1ime, then youl -
11 have been with him at dinners and certainly 11 wel discuss it at that point° rm
12 before the deal, I met his wife or girlfriend 12 not having that diarsuminn when
13 or some of his kidsc rve been 10his house. 13 we're, you know, an hour, or over an
14 So, I mean, I really trusted hrn, you know, 14 hour into the deposition.
15 and, you know, it came back lo bite me. 15 So lefs take a five-mbule
16 Q AII that trust was based on working 16 break.
17 through this deal both between LiveXLive and 17 MR ISSER° Wete not going 10
18 Wantickets, correct? 18 be able lo have1hat discussion at
19 MR WURTZEL: Objection10 19 the end of the day because IYnnot
20 form. 20 going 10know where I stand, I have
21 A rm1alking about prior, you know, 21 10figure thhgs oute But lefs take
22 just prior io the deal when he was, you know, 22 five mhules and wel come back.
23 now that I see it now, he was courting me, I 23 (Whereupon, a brief recess was
24 would say. 24 laken at 10:45 a.m.)
25 Q Well, how well - when was the first 25 MR ISSER° AII right ° Back on
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2 4he record. 2 b any deals wilh Mr. Blin belween the
3 For the record, the five-mbule 3 Majesco deal and the LiveXLive Wardickels
4 break was a ten-minule break.° We 4 dear?
5 have10 keep track of the. 5 A Not that I recall.
6 Ms. Court reporter, please keep 6 Q Okay. So you knew him from afar,
7 track of breaks and retums. 7 you said.° When you said before that you knew
8 Please read back the last 8 him from afar, were you referrhg 10 - you
9 question. 9 were refening, I take it,1o the period
10 (Whereupon, at this lime, the requested 10 before you slarted dimiming Wantickels and
11 portion was read by the reporter.) 11 LiveXLive; is that correcI?
12 BY MR ISSER 12 A Yes.° I met hn through Majesco,
13 Q. Just give me the year and month, if 13 thats correct
14 you know it, was the lirst lime you met Rob 14 O Nor You said you knew him from
15 Bline No, withdrawn. 15 afar Then you slarted dimiming having
16 When was the lirst the you and Rob 16 dinners with him and going 10his housec For
17 Blin dimsued LiveXLive or Loton.° If I say 17 the period of fime when you knew him from
18 LiveXLive it includes Loton, do you 18 afar, is that the period up until you began
19 understand that? 19 dimusing LiveXLive and Wantickels?
20 A Yes. 20 A I believe so.
21 Q When was the first lime you 21 O Okayc Did you and your counsel
22 dimsued LiveXLive or Loton with Mr. Blin? 22 discuss any of the questions and answers
A To the best of my mmilarfinn, it break?
23 23 during the
24 was either 2015 or '16. 24 A Yes.
25 Q AII right ° And between - you met 25 MR WURTZEL:° Objection.
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2 Mr. BIM b mfamnœ10 the Majesco deal, 2 MR ISSER° Thafs not
3 correct? 3 p ivieged, Josh.
4 A Correct. 4 MR WURTZEL:° Its privileged.
5 Q AII righte So between Majesco and 5 MR ISSER° You're not allowed
6 discussing LiveXLive with Mr. Blin, how many 6 10discuss the questions and answers
7 limes have you mmmunirsded with Mr. Blin? 7 at a deposition with a witness durhg
8 A I don't mmamber if any, its 8 the breake It is prohibited content
9 possible I have, but I dnni her 9 MR WURTZEL:° rm 100 percent
10 Q You testilled before that you knew 10 sure that youte wrong about that
11 h from afare I assume you meard him from 11 MR ISSER° Mark it for a
12 afar before 201410 2016; is that accurale? 12 ruling.
13 A Through the Majesco deal. 13 MR WURTZEL:° Hold on, rm
14 Q Right 14 instruction - Steve, rm instructing
15 A Yes. 15 the witness not10 disdose any
16 Q So you didnt mallv know Mr. Blin 16 communications that he had with
17 well before starthg off lo discuss LiveXLive 17 counsel.
18 and Wantir*aIn with him, correct? 18 BY MR ISSER
19 A I mean, I thought I knew him well. 19 a Did you and counsel cornmunimta
20 I don't - I mean, well - what do you mean 20 during the txeak ming this deposition?
21 well? 21 MR WURTZEL:° Objectione rm
22 Q Well, you said you hadn't really 22 instructing the witness not10
23 spoken 10him before the Majesco deal, which 23 answer.
24 was around 2007 - withdrawn. 24 MR ISSER° He answered it
25 Did you do any - were you involved 25 firstc So mark this for a ruling as
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2 I do not thhk youte allowed 10 2 did ask around about Mr. Ellin before
3 discuss questions and answers. 3 Mvesting in LiveXLive or signing the asset
4 MR WURTZEL:° rm 100 percent 4 purchase agreement?
5 sure that youte wronge And the 5 MR WURTZEL:° Objection of
6 witness's response, which was given 6 form.
7 before I had an opportunity10 object 7 A I dont recaH.
8 and inslruct him, is an inadvertent 8 Q You dont recall whether you asked
9 waiver and we're not agreeng 10 any 9 around?
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2 Mr. Ellh? 2 (Whereupon, at this1rne, the requested
3 A I believe so. 3 portion was read by the reporter.)
4 Q It was the Majesco deal where you 4 A I mean, I looked at his bio. I
5 met Mr. EHin,correct? 5 mean, if you look at his bio, it looks pretty
6 A Yes. 6 rnpressivec He has a nice bio written up in
7 Q And h that - tuming back lo 7 there, and jid hannd on personal
8 Exhbit67, FINRA found it uncredble that 8 relationshp with him.
9 you had provided written notice ming 9 Q That bio, where did you get the bio?
Manlauk·
10 these trades lo First is that 10 A I dont recal.
11 correct? 11 O WeH, was it from one of - by
12 A Possible; rm not surec I dont 12 Rob - I assume youte talking about Rob's
13 recal. 13 bio, correcI?
14 Q Well, we can go over this another 14 A Rob Blin's bio, correct.
15 time But you received - justio be dear, 15 Q Did he provide you with this bio or
16 you received lab 67, which is the FINRA 16 was it on a websile that he mntrnlInd such
17 hearing panel decision, you received this 17 as LiveXLive's websile?
18 document from FINRA, correct? 18 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10
19 A To the best of my recolection, I 19 form.
20 received it ° Ijust dont remember it ° It 20 A I dont recaHe I dont remember
21 was many years ago. 21 a And you said it was based on your
22 Q And now, you said, did you ask - 22 personal relationship with him, but you
23 before you were lestifying all the bad things 23 didnt realy have a strong personal
24 people told you about Rob EHinaller you 24 reintinnnhp with him before you began
25 filed this lawsuit ° And I thhk you said you 25 diansning the LiveXLive investment deal, did
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2 you? 2 protect yourselfe He wasnt surprised what
3 MR. WURTZEL:° Objedian lo 3 Rob had done lo mer And then he said, you
4 form. 4 know, he was trying not to get inlo the
5 A Prior io LiveXLive, no, we didnt. 5 middle, but he said, You have10 do what you
6 Q So you analyzed his honesty wilhin 6 have10 doc If you have1011e a lawsuit,
7 the context of negotiating the deal wilh him, 7 you should file a lawsut
8 correcI? 8 Q Well, what did you say10 him10
9 MR. WURTZEL:° Objection10 9 provoke that response?
10 form. 10 A I didnt really have10 say
11 A Yes. 11 anythinge He was - he knew what was going
12 Q When you were a broker, did you do 12 on, because he was seeing - he saw
13 further due diligence before recommending 13 everylhhg.
14 investmenls - withdrawn. 14 Q Why were you speaking 10him?
15 What bad things have you1old people 15 A Because he was the one - we were
16 about Rob Ellh? 16 speaking prior lo that, 100, even before we
17 A I mean, I1old them the truth. 17 dosedc He was their, I guess, unofficial
18 Q Tell me - I didnt ask - 18 CFOf And he handled most of the paperwork.
19 spanifirdlv what have you been lelling 19 He was sending me the documenls and stuff for
20 people about Rob Ellh? 20 warranls, et cetera, so he - so why wouldnt
21 A Just what he did 10me durhg this 21 I speak10 him?
22 whole process. 22 O I wasnt deare The conversation in
23 Q And what did he do 10you? 23 which you daim he1old you lo do what you
24 A Lied 10 me, dafrariad me, ruhed a 24 got to do or lile a lawsuit, what was the
25 lot of people's lives in my company, et 25 cordext in which he said thal?° He just
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2 cetera. 2 called you up and said that or why did you
3 Q And you've been lelling people that? 3 call hrn? What was the poht or the purpose
4 A Its not a secret. 4 of the conversation, reason you were speaking
5 Q I didnt ask you if its a secret. 5 10him before that specific conversation?
6 I asked you if you had been tellhg people 6 MR. WURTZEL:° Objection 10
7 that? 7 form.
8 A People asked me, so I lell them the 8 A I dont recall exactly how it
9 truth. 9 hiliatede I dont recall.
10 Q People - have you discussed this 10 a Were you complahing 10him about
11 lawsuit with David Wells? 11 Rob during that conversation?
12 A I dont believe soc I dont recall. 12 A Possible.
13 Q Did you discuss whether to file a 13 a Well, why would he lell you, Do what
14 lawsuit with David Wells? 14 you have10 do and Rob is Rob?° Why would he
15 A Yes. 15 just say all those thhgs unprovoked, out of
16 Q And when was that? 16 the blue?
17 A Are you lalkhg priorio - I would 17 A Well, listen, he saw everything that
18 say it was mmatima in the summer of 2017. 18 Rob did, and he realized that he knows Rob
19 Q Afler the asset purchase agreement 19 was wrong, and he - that was - those were
20 was signed? 20 his words 10me.
21 A Yes. 21 O I understand you say thatc But I'm
22 Q And what did you say 10him and what 22 t aving what was the conlext in which he
23 did he say10 you about filhg a lawsuit? 23 said thal?° Just out of the blue while you
24 A He pretty much1old me, Rob is Rob 24 were 1alking 10him shmid mmalhing else, he
25 and you have 10do what you have10 do lo 25 vniuntaamd those statemenis?
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2 A No. 2 A I may haver I dont recall.
3 MR. WURTZEL:° Objection to 3 Q So you're not sure? I just want to
4 form. 4 be dear.° You're not sure if you dimtmad
5 Q. You can answer. 5 this lawsuit with any reporters or
6 A We were, obviously, talkhg about 6 joumalisls?
7 this topic. 7 A I dont think - no.
8 Q. You say "obviously."° rm asking 8 Q Maybe, maybe not?
9 you, what did you say to hrn before he said 9 A I dont recall.
10 that to you? 10 a Do you know if your counsel has
11 A I dont recall that.° It was two or 11 dim1mad this lawsuit or the allegations in
17 did he say to you about the lawsuit - 17 question, but you should exdude from
18 withdrawn. 18 your answer any knowledge that you
19 How many times did you discuss this 19 have1hat's based solely on
20 lawsuit with Richard Blakely? 20 discussions that you've had with
21 A Quile a few. 21 counsel.
22 Q How oRen did you speak with 22 So if you know the answer to
23 Mr. Blakely? 23 the question based on information
24 A I speak to hrn, I dont know, 24 other than discussions with
25 whenever we speak, you know. 25 counsel - please exdude from your
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2 Q Once a week? 2 answer any information that you know
3 A I dont know about that. 3 solely because of any information
4 Q Once a month? 4 that was told to you by counsel.
5 A Yese Maybe more. 5 You can answer the question
6 Q So you speak to Mr. Blakely about 6 with that caveat, subject to that
7 once a monthe And did you discuss 7 instruction.
8 Mr. Blakely's deposition with him? 8 Q So whars the answer?
9 A Noc rm sony, rm just giving my 9 A I dont knowe I dont have an
10 daughter a document. 10 answere I dont recalle Sorry.
11 Q Go ahead. 11 O You dont recall if your counsel has
12 A Just one second. 12 had any conversations - withdrawn.
13 Q How oRen have you discussed this 13 Did you discuss your deposition with
14 lawsuit with hrn? 14 anyone today?
15 A I mean, we dim1mad it, you know, 15 A No.
16 whenever we speake We both are very upset 16 a I mean, the fact that you're having
17 about L 17 a deposition today, the dim twinn did not
18 Q And have you ever discussed this 18 happen today.
19 lawsuit or the allegations h the complaint 19 A Sure.
20 with any reporters or jnumalidn? 20 a Who did you discuss it with?
21 A Not really. 21 A My attomey.
22 Q Well, what does not really mean? 22 Q Anyone else?
23 A Not that I recalle I mean, I 23 A My wife.
24 dont - 24 Q Anyone else?
25 Q So you may have? 25 A Not really.
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2 Q. Did you prepare for this deposition 2 for identilicatinn )
3 wilh counser? 3 BY MR. ISSER
4 A Not really, not that I know of. I 4 Q This is Exhibit 3.
5 wouldnt call it prepare. 5 Do you recognize this dnrument, Mr.
6 Q. How many times did you and counsel 6 Schnaier9
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2 Q. AII right.° And when was the last 2 O Okay.° Tum lo tab 2, pleasec This
3 time you spoke with Jim Sabo? 3 is Exhibit 4.
4 A I dont recall. 4 (Whereupon, at this lime, the
5 Q. Did you ever discuss1his lawsuit 5 reporter marked the above-mantinned
6 with Jim Sabo? 6 first amended complaint as
Defendants'
7 A To the best of my knowledge, I dont 7 Exhibit 4 for
8 think I did. 8 identification.)
9 Q. AII right.° What about Rebecca Sinn? 9 BY MR. ISSER
10 Have you diarnaand this lawsuit with Rebecca 10 a This is, for the record, the first
11 Sinn? 11 amended complant in this action.
12 A Also I dont recall. 12 Have you ever seen this document
13 Q. Did you discuss1his lawsuit with 13 before?
14 Sasha Edwards? 14 A I believe I did.
15 A Maybe just that there is a lawsuit, 15 Q And did you review it on or before
16 but nothing really1oo much about L 16 20189
May 23,
17 Q. And Carla Ortiz, have you discussed 17 A I believe so.° I dont recall,
18 this lawsuit with Caria Ortiz7 18 though, but I believe so.
19 A No, not that I know of. 19 a To the best of your knowledge, are
20 Q AII right.° Please open up tab 1. 20 the allegations in this dnrnment accurate?
21 MR. ISSER·° Please mark this as 21 A To the best of my knowledge, they're
22 Exhibit 3. 22 accurate.
23 (Whereupon, at this time, the 23 a Is any part not accurale?
24 reporter marked the above-rnanlinned 24 A I dont recalle I dont -10 the
nafandants'
25 complant as Exhibit 3 25 best of my knowledge, its accurale.
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defendanls' -
2 Q. To the best of your knowledge - 2 for the record, its
plaintiIs'
3 A And my recollection, excuse me. 3 response 10dnmment
4 Q. To the best of your knowledge and 4 request.
5 recollection, is any part not accurale? 5 (Whereupon, at this lime, the
6 A To the best of my knnwIndga and 6 reporter marked the above-mentioned
plaintiIs'
7 ramllarfinn, its accurate. 7 response 10document
Dafandanin'
8 Q. Please turn lo lab 4. 8 request as Exhibit6 for
9 MR ISSER° Mark this, I guess, 9 identification.)
10 Exhibit 5. 10 BY MR ISSER
11 (Whereupon, at this time, the 11 Q Have you ever seen this document
12 reporter marked the above-rnanlinnad 12 before, Mr. Schnaier.
Plaintifs'
13 responses and nhiarfinna 13 MR WURTZEL:° Sony, what tab
14 10Defendant LiveXLive Media, Inc.'s 14 is this?
15 First set of interrogalories lo each 15 MR ISSER° Tab 4.° There are
16 Plaintif as nafandanis Exhbit 5 for 16 two lab 4s, I apologize.° Tab 4, not
17 identification.) 17 04. I apologize.
18 BY MR ISSER 18 O LiveXLive Media Inc.'s first set of
19 Q. For the record, this is the 19 document demands.
plaintiIs'
20 interrogalory s response in 20 Do you see that, Mr. Schnaier?
21 there.° PlaintiIs' responses and objections 21 A I do.
dafandanin'
22 10 LiveXLive Media's first set of 22 O Have you ever seen this document
23 interrogalories. 23 before?
24 Do you recognize this? 24 A I dont recall.
25 MR WURTZEL:° Do you mean lab 25 O You dont recall if you've seen it
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2 3? 2 or you dont recall seeng it?
3 MR ISSER° I think its tab- 3 A I dont recall seeing it, but I
4 hold on, I pulled up the wrong 4 could have seen L
5 dnmrnant ° It is tab 3, yes, correct. 5 Q Did there come a lime when you
6 Sorry. 6 gathered documenis to provide lo your counsel
7 Q.° Do you recognize this dnmrnant? 7 10be produced in this lawsuil?
8 A Which one? 8 A Sure. Yes.
PlaintiIs'
9 Q. Tab 3. responses and 9 Q AII right.° And what steps did you
dafandanin'
10 objections10 hlerrogalories. 10 ake?
11 Is that your signature on the last 11 A Whalever my counsel advised me lo
12 page? 12 do, I did.
13 A Yes. 13 a Well, what steps did you lake lo
14 Q. Did you review this dnmrnant hninre 14 gather documenis?
15 you signed the last page? 15 A I believe I gave them access io my
16 A To the best of my remilarfinn, I 16 e-mails and they pulled them all out.° And
17 did. 17 anything that I had in hard cover, you know,
18 Q. To the best of your knnwIndga are 18 pretty much, whatever they asked me for, I
19 the slalemenIs mniakwl h these responses 19 gave them, 10the best of my ability.
20 accurale? 20 a We were dinrmning - you were aware
21 A To the best of my knowledge and 21 of the bushess of Wanlir*als, correct?
22 recollection, they are. 22 A Correct.
23 Q. AII right ° And please open up 23 a AII right.° And when I referio
24 Exhibit 4, please - tab 4, sorry. 24 Wantickels rm referring 10the business of
25 MR ISSER° This is 25 Wantickels.° There's Wantickels
entities,
12 Wantirkata should have paid the legal fees. 12 O But the fact remains, they werent
13 Q In lab 5, which is the ownership 13 paid There was an award against your It's
14 structure, which is Exhibit 7, I believe, 14 your position the award against you in the
15 which company did you thhk should have paid 15 Jeff Singer case was wrongly decided, the
16 the legal fees? 16 legal fees case aganst Mintz Levine you
17 A rm not sure, I dont recall. I 17 shouldnt have been liable for, and, in
18 signed personally anyway because I felt 18 addition, the hearing paners decision in
19 responsiblec I felt bad, and I ended up 19 FINRA, which was Exhibit 2, was also wrongly
20 signing. 20 decidedc Is that your position?
21 Q Well, let me just make sure, I want 21 MR. WURTZEL:° Objection10
22 10be clear. 22 form.
23 You wound up with this $13 milion 23 a You can answer.
24 or some odd 13 milion dollars b 24 A I gave you my answer
25 mnnidaratinn was paid for the Mvestment 25 O They were all wrongly decided or
5 A To the best of my rannilarfinn, they 5 Q AII right.° If you would look now,
6 were supposed 10make inirnrfurfinna for 6 you aHege in paragraph - paragraph 33 of
7 licketing and stuff. 7 the amended complaint, which is Exhbit 4 -
8 Q. And you dont remember if you paid 8 rm sony, the arnanrlarl complaint was I thhk
9 Gideon 150,000 or Isaac Chehabar the 9 lab 4.
10 $300,0007 10 MR WURTZEL:° Tab 2 was the
11 A I dont remember.° I didnt. 11 amended complaint.
12 Q. Is there a lot of debts that you 12 MR ISSER·° rm sony.° Tab 2.
13 often dont pay that you're not sure which 13 a Do you see in paragraph 33, you
14 ones you did and which ones you havent? 14 allege that in 2010 Wantickels had 40
15 MR WURTZEL: Objection 10 15 employees and was generating 45 milion -
16 form. 16 and was generating between 500,000 and one
17 A I only recall those1wo debIs. 17 million dollars of annual profils?
18 Q. Well, is a $300,000 debt a large 18 A Where are we looking?
19 debt? 19 a Paragraph 33.
20 A Well, this wasnt me parannallv 20 A Okay, I see L
21 This was - actually, it says it's 21 Q AII right.° How do you know that
22 Wantir*ata but it says Joseph Schnaier - 22 Wantickels had 40 employees and profils
23 because I was managing Wantickels. 23 between 500,000 and a million dollars?
24 I really - I dont recall if they 24 A I believe it was based on, 10the
25 were paid or not. 25 best of my ramilarfinn, it was based on the
8 didnt? 8 A Correct
9 A Yeah, I dont think I dide I dont 9 Q It was a company you mntrnlIsri
10 think so. 10 correcl?
11 Q Well, did you know Rob - did you 11 A Correct.
12 1ellRob that you had been removed? 12 a So between 2014 when you first
13 A I dont know if we were even b 13 became involved in Wantickels and was
14 conversation about it ° I dont recall. 14 co-praniriant anri acquring the majority
Wantickets'
15 Q Do you think you were removed in 15 blerest, do you know if
16 2015 or 2016? 16 linancial condition got better or worse?
17 A I think it was at the end of '15, 17 A I believe it got a little wome.
-
18 beghning of '16 I honestly dont rarnarnhar 18 Q Okayc Turn lo lab 10, please.
19 the date. 19 (Whereupon, at this time, the
20 Q AII right ° But lets say end of 20 reporter marked the above-rnantinnari
21 '15, beghning of '162 If you look at 21 prolit and loss alaternant as
nalanriants'
22 paragraph 41 of the amended complaints, you 22 Exhibit 9 for
23 say, Blin's pitch, which he delivered on 23 iriantificatinn )
ISSER·
24 multiple occasions beginnhg in the second 24 BY MR.
25 half of 2015. 25 a This is a profit and loss statement
7 companies you control charge, correct? 7 Q AII right.° Lefs tum lo tab 12.
8 A Correct. 8 (Whereupon, at this lime, the
9 Q. And how much money did you - when I 9 reporter marked the above-rnantinned
10 say you, for the purposes of this series of 10 draR membershp Mterest purchase
nafandants'
11 questions, when I say you, I mean Danco as 11 agreement as Exhibit 11
12 well. 12 for identification.)
13 So how much did you pay for 84 13 BY MR ISSER
14 percent of Wantickels in the summer of 20167 14 a Do you recognize1his document?
15 A To the best of my recollection, it 15 Its a drat marnharnhip interest purchase.
16 was anrnawhere around 5 milion. 16 Do you recognize1his document, Mr.
17 Q. AII right.° And how did you make - 17 Schnaier'?
18 how was that amount deterrninad? 18 A I don't recall this document.
19 A It was negotiated. 19 a Its a draR, but rm going 10ask
20 Q. How was Wantirints - how was 20 you lo tum10 the second page.° And it says
21 Wantir*als evaluated?° How did you value 21 this is the agreement by which you would
22 Wantickels at that firna7 22 acqure the 84 percent we've been discussing,
23 A I dont recall. 23 a draR of the agreement.° If you look at the
24 Q. AII righte Lefs tum 10tab 12 24 second page for emnirfarnlinn, it says
25 now. 25 $4,800,000.
18 with the Chehabars, did you tell them1hat 18 get liquid on the shares.
19 you had a deal lo flip Wantickets for 19 a And you bounced your checks 10
20 $16,500,000 purchase? 20 Drovah, correct?
21 A I dont recall what I1old them, but 21 MR WURTZEL:° Objection10
22 they knew I was going 10sell the company. I 22 form.
23 believe I lold theme I believe I told them. 23 a You can answer.
24 Q You believe you told them that you 24 MR WURTZEL:° I objectio the
25 had already negntiated and agreed 10a deal 25 characlerization of the term bounce.
9 A I have never seen - I dont know 9 knowledge, 10the extent that its
10 about you, but I, in my 20 years in the 10 askhg for what other people
11 financial world, I have never seen a company 11 intended.
12 that one day is worth 500 million, ready10 12 MR ISSER° AII righte Josh, I
13 go public, and then, lilerally, within days, 13 dont need a speaking objectione You
14 the stock is now worth 100 million barely, 14 objected.
15 and there was no news, nothing changed in the 15 Q You can answer, Mr. Schnninr
16 bushess, there was no - nothing that I saw, 16 Is it possble that Rob didnt lie
17 and it was just over hype. 17 o you and he was as upset as you are that
18 Q Youte not anawaring my question - 18 there wasnt $100 million offering at the
19 A Let me finish. 19 share price -
20 Q Noc What steps did you lake 10 20 A How could it -
21 conlirm it You've now given me - 21 MR WURTZEL:° Objectione t.ack
22 A I gave you an example, sire Let me 22 of foundation -
23 finish. 23 MR ISSER° Objection is all
24 Q Youte not answering the question. 24 you need 10saye I dont want a
25 MR ISSER·° Josh, now he's 25 speakhg objection.
24 give an answer, which the witness is 24 A I wasnt1old how much, but I was
25 givinge So let him thish. 25 1oldthere was some stock deal and it was
3....Q. All right Lei's open tab 15, .3 .. Q.. All right.. Do you knaw ifthatwas
4.. please. .4 . true?. Did you take any steps to try to
5 got streaming righls, how would they make 5 Q Wei, before you invesled money in
them?° How would
6 money off they make it 6 LiveXLive or signed the asset purchase
7 avalable for viewers io see whatever it is 7 agreement, this is 2015 when he made the
8 they're streaming? 8 lirst of several pilches, so you signed the
9 A I guess they would put it up on 9 APA two years later.
10 their platform. 10 So did you ever b between that time
11 Q.° Their
website, you mean their 11 go 10LiveXLive Media's websile to see if
12 website? 12 they were streaming the festivals that
13 A Their platform. 13 Mr. Blin told you he was in the process of
14 Q. What is their platform? 14 arranging?
15 A The LiveXLive platform, music 15 A We signed the APAone year later.
16 platform. 16 a No, this is the second half of 2015.
17 Q. I understand that, but if rm a 17 The APA was signed May 5, 2017.
18 consumer and I wantio watch one of the 18 A I thought you were talking from the
19 evenls they're streaming, how would I go 19 Mvestment side.
20 about thal?° How would I go about watchhg 20 a WeH, either/ore You 1e1mer Did
21 that evenl? 21 you ever, between any of these evenls go lo
22 A I guess you would go lo their sile 22 LiveXLive's websile to see if they were
23 and sign up as a nnhncrihar 23 streamhg the evenls that Mr. Ellin 1oldyou
24 Q And do you think on their sHe rd 24 they were in the process of arranghg?
25 see what evenls they have? 25 A Nor But he sent me an e-mail
21 That's why I have him as my CEO, had him. 21 before lodayc Do you have it?
22 Q Did he ever lel you that he 22 MR ISSER" I would think, but
23 discovered that? 23 it seems lo lake him quHe a long
24 A I dont recall. 24 time.
25 Q Look at Exhbit Dio the complant 25 MR WURTZEL:° Because there are
18 know if Rob - did he daim that he secured 18 A I dnn't knnw specilically what
19 them?° Here it says io be securedc Do you 19 festivals youte lalkhg about, but I do know
20 know what process he was in, where in the 20 that there are festivals that he 1oldme that
21 process he was for these six10 eight 21 he landed or dosed or whatever that had 10
22 festivals? 22 that - you know, 10that sort of1alk that
23 MR. WURTZEL: Objection10 23 didnt get done, which he said did get done.
24 form. 24 O WeH, you slate b the next
25 A I dont know. 25 paragraph in the complaht that LiveXLive
13 Q. Oh, no, you made an allegation in 13 Objection 10form. Now you can
14 the complant, you listed this bullet point 14 answer.
15 that said, Rob repranarded that there were 15 A I dont know, because I wouldnt
16 six10 eight festivals10 be secured from May 16 know.° I wasnt involved with those
15 recall spacifrallv 15 did you ever ask him why it wasnt on the
16 Q. rm gong by your allegation. What 16 websile then if they were doing festivals in
17 specific festivals did Rob tell you - 17 the next 30 days?
18 withdrawn? 18 MR WURTZEL:° Objection of
19 A rm tellhg you - 19 form.
20 Q. The question is withdrawn 20 A I dont recall, but why would I
21 So I dont undersland what you mean 21 assume he was a liar9
22 some would still be in the process.° In 2015 22 a WeH, for any of these other bullet
23 you were told that, you are claiming you were 23 poHs on the launch, did you lake any steps
24 told that six10 eight festivals would be 24 10check the websile or SEC flings, or ask
25 secured from May 2016 10 May 2017. You 25 anyone 10look inlo it, or the press
18 was going 10be a letter of intent with 18 A It's possible, I dont recall.
19 Wantir*als in the next two weeks? 19 a WeH, did you lake any steps10
20 A I dont recall when this was done. 20 determhe - when did you learn that there
21 So I dont know. 21 was no deal with Randy Jackson or no deal
22 Q Its dated 11/17/152 So lets 22 with China Brands?
23 assume November 17, 20152 Is that true? 23 A By the time I - weH, before we
24 A I didnt - I dont recall the LOI 24 liled the suit, al the ininrmatinn.
25 being done until July. 25 a How did you lind that out?
22 said you only knew hrn from afar when you 22 there was something - there was ammathinn
23 slarted diarmainn - 23 there that showed that he was talkhg to
24 A I didnt say I was a friend. 24 them.
25 Q You said obviously not. 25 Q AII righte But when he said
9 investment is an equity position, I believe. 9 Q Did you ever ask him - this says
10 Q. AII right.° Well, that's tine but 10 converthle notes, so that would be an
11 here, if you look at1ab 63, and the lop 11 Mvestment, correct?
12 e-mail is from David Bass 10Robert Ellin and 12 A It converts inlo equity.
13 Joe Schnaier dated August 12, 2016. Its an 13 a Did you ever ask him if this
14 e-mail exchange.° Did you send and receive 14 Mvestment closed?
15 these e-mails? 15 A I was under the assumption, he made
16 A Did I - rm sorry, did I what? 16 it seem as though it dosed.
17 Q. Did you send and receive these 17 Q How did he make it seem its closed
18 e-mails? 18 - withdrawn.
19 A Did I send these e-mails? 19 Did you ever ask hh then 10see the
20 Q. And receive them.° Its an e-mail 20 signed documenis?
21 chah; you understand its more than one 21 A I dnni meall. but I dont think
22 e-mail. Some you sent, some you received. 22 thats really - I dont think you're
23 rm asking you if you sent or received all of 23 supposed 10show someone's personal signed
24 these e-mails? 24 documenls.° Maybe the Bass
family didnt
25 A It looks like it 25 want - you know, thats like a very touchy
11 Good for you. 11 $100 milione And if that was the case, then
12 So days aller the asset purchase 12 what happened lo that $100 million?
13 agreement was signed, did LiveXLive IHean 13 a Thafs for another day, Mr.
14 S1 with the Bank of Montreal as the 14 Schnaiere But there's a difhnnne - would
15 undenuiler? 15 you agree there's a difference between
16 A I think so. 16 believing you could raise $100 million and
17 Q And in that S1 that Bank of Montreal 17 beng wrong and failing and lying about it?
18 was a part of a slalement they were seeking 18 A Wel, when a chairman sends you an
19 to raise $100 miHon? 19 e-maH saying done deal, 75 - 10010 120-
20 A I dont recall the exactiiling. 20 whalever that number was on an e-mail 10me
21 Q Okaye Because thats the 21 direcHy, the chairman of a pubHecompany
22 representation that you believe was 22 daiming that Bank of Montreal, one of the
23 fraudulently made10 you, that they were 23 largest investment hanks in the world is
24 havbg an offering 10raise $100 million, 24 gong 10raise $100 milHon,done, signed,
25 correct? 25 and done, I mean, thats a pretty strong
5 Rob made everyone think was a done committed 5 A Cnnfirming that they signed 10raise
6 deal by his e-maH. 6 them $100 million deal.
7 Q When did you lind out it was a best 7 Q Signed can also mean signed 10fie
8 efforts deal? 8 an S1 for 100 million?
9 A Through the depositione Thafs the 9 A Steve, you know beller than that.
10 way I blerpreted L 10 a Lers look at -
11 Q So you didnt know that it was a 11 MR. WURTZEL:° Steve, whmer
12 best efforts deal until aRer youilled this 12 the next logical place is, lefs take
13 lawsuit? 13 a short break.
14 A No. Rob sent me an e-mal it was a 14 MR. ISSER·° AII righte Lers
15 done deal, they're raising 100 milHon. 15 look at1ab 202 The subscription
16 Q Youte saying it was a best efforts 16 agreement.
17 deal When did you learn it was a best 17 Q If you innk at narfinn 2(g)(iv), The
18 effor1s? 18 undersigned has been provided an opportunity
19 A I learned the best efforts - 19 for a mahis period of time prior lo the
20 obviously, the deal never happenedc So it 20 date hereof lo obtain additional ininrmatinn
21 wasnt a mmmiliari deale And I learned 21 conceming the oAering of shares and
22 durhg the deposition they came out and said 22 warrantz The company and al other
23 they had never anythhg signed with LiveX or 23 Mkxmation, lo the extent1he company
24 Rob commilling them10 raise 100 million. 24 possesses such infam1ation or can acquire it,
25 Q And before you signed the APA did 25 without a reanrmable effort or expense.
6 conversation with the CFO, Jeny Gold, who is 6 A Yese But this is a bolerplate. I
7 a veteran in the hdustry and comes from some 7 cant even read it, its bluny.
° Q I read itio you because I knew
8 very good companies in the past And I 8
9 specificaly had conuarantinn with him b my 9 you'd say thate You signed this before
10 ofice saying, How are you getthg such a 10 paying the money, you signed it ar knr miarighg
11 realy good valuation from Bank of Montreal? 11 what I just said?
12 He said, This industry, they're giving us the 12 A I arknrmiar1ge L
13 same comps, and this is verbatim, as NetHix. 13 a Okayc And 2(g)(v) says, The
14 Q But what does that have 10do with 14 undersigned was able 10ask nuanlinrm of and
15 whether its a best effort for a signed deal? 15 receive answers from the company for persons
16 rm asking, did you ever ask Rob Ellin or 16 acting on Hsbehalf ming the lerms and
17 anyone at LiveXLive whether Bank of Montreal 17 mnclilinna of this transaction.
18 was mmmiliarl to raising $100 milion as 18 Is that correct?° You signed it, you
19 opposed 10a best efforts dear?° Your answer 19 agree that you were given the opportunity10
20 has nothhg 10do with that. 20 ask questions and get answers, correct?
21 A My answer, you heard my answer, my 21 A I cant read it, but I signed it, so
22 answer was yes, and 10even reiterate, he 22 its in there.
23 sent me an e-mail confirming L 23 a Now, if you look at 2(h), you know
24 Q What e-mail - who sent you an 24 -
what lets see if the other subscription
25 e-mail conlirming it? 25 agreement has a better copy.
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estate 143:5 115:3 120:7 126:15 129:22 24 268:6,24
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24 Q. What people and what company? 24 special circumstances are that they wanted to
25 A. The Chehebar family, people from the 25 get out of the business?
8 A. ° It was -- it never really went 8 a company named Ticket Live came to see you
°
9 anywhere. They were, you know, it was just 9 about doing a deal with Wantickets?
10 never serious. - That's what he told me. 10 A. - Can you repeat that question?
11 Q. ° And what did you take that to mean? 11 Q. - That a company named Ticket Live --
20 Q. ° And how did it come about that you 20 possible we had a phone call. - I don't
9 Q. Now, I want you to turn to Exhibit 9 A. - I mean, I have to read all this
10 D. Do you see that? · It says definition of 10 through. - I don't know -- what did I fill out
11 accredited investor? 11 on the document? - Where is the page with the
12 A. ° It's very blurry. 12 document that I filled out?
13 Q. ° Q. - I don't know what
No, it's really not. 13 you're talking
14 A. ° Exhibit B? 14 about, Mr. Schnaier. - I'm
asking you -- there
15 Q. ° Yes. ° Not blurry at all, Mr. 15 are 16 r.m.bered categories and I'm asking you
16 Schnaier. ° That's a different page that 16 which -- and you need, to be an accredited
17 you're looking at. 17 investor, you need to fall within one or more
18 A. ° Okay, I see it. 18 of the categories, if you want WantMCS
19 Q. ° Do you see, can you read it? 19 Holdings to be an accredited investor.
20 A. One second. 20 A. - Are you asking me to read all of
21 (Witness peruses document.) 21 the -- like all of them and see which one and
22 A. Yes, I see it. 22 pick one? · Is that what you're asking me to
23 Q. All right. - And it and I'm 23 do?
says,
24 reading, The undersigned must qualify as an 24 Q. - I guess you don't know off the top
25 accredited investor, as defined in Rule 501 25 of your head under what category WantMCS
24 into this game with you. 24 are you alleging in this lawsuit that the
25 MR. WURTZEL: ° Stop, stop. 25 shares you purchased purni1nnt to the
21 now, how much do you think those shares were 21 MR. ISSER: ° That was very
22 worth? 22 inappropriate, Josh.
23 MR. WORTZEL: ° Same objection. 23 MR. WORTZEL: ° It was obvious
24 Q. You can answer. 24 the witness didn't understand what
25 A. I couldn't tell you. 25 you were asking.
17 Q. ° Did anyone at LiveXLive do anything 17 means it's a question and the answer is yes,
18 to hinder your ability to determine the value 18 it's correct or no, it's not correct.
19 of LiveXLive shares? 19 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection to
20 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection to 20 form. And objection on the ground
21 form. 21 that you're mischaracterizing the
22 A. I don't understand the question. 22 testimony.
23 Q. Well, when you said that they told 23 Q. - You can answer.
24 you that this was the money they were 24 A. - What's your avestion again?
25 raising, they were raising money at $5 a 25 Q. - Really? ° Okay.
6 Q. And how much do you think they were 6 think it wasn't a big deal and, you know,
7 worth if they were not worth $5 a share? 7 this was a frivolous lawsuit.
8 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection to 8 Q. - How do you know Mr. Ellin does not
9 form. 9 truly believe and LiveXLive does not really
10 A. I don't know. 10 believe this is a frivolous lawsuit?
11 Q. And you say in paragraph 59 of the 11 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection to
12 complaint that Rob Ellin continues to defraud 12 form.
13 the public and SEC filings. What are you 13 Q. - You can answer.
14 referring to? 14 A. - I think you've got to be delusional
15 MR. WURTZEL: ° Objection. 15 to believe that this is a frivolous lawsuit.
16 Q. You can answer. 16 Q. - All right. ° What else?· Besides your
17 You want to look at paragraph 59? 17 belief that he misrepranantarl the merits of
18 It will take about ten minutes for you to 18 your lawsuit, what other ways did Ellin
19 find the complaint, Mr. Schnaier. 19 continue to defraud the public in LiveXLive
20 MR. WURTZEL: ° Steve, just ask 20 Media's SEC filings?
21 the questions. - If you want to refer 21 A. - Even aside from -- the filings only
22 him to a document, then refer him to 22 or press releases as well?
23 a document. 23 Q. - I'm reading you your allarrations,
24 Q. I'll read you from paragraph 59 of 24 sir. ° Paragraph 59 in the first amended
25 the complaint -- the amended complaint. 25 complaint. - You Upon information and
say,
3 him a long time to find the page. 3 Q. - Mr. Schnaier, was this press release
4 MR. WORTZEL: ° Because it's a 4 you're about to discuss filed with the SEC?
5 400-page exhibit. 5 MR. ISSER: ° And there's no
6 MR. ISSER: - Page 24 of the 6 s aMng objections.
7 document itself, not the exhibits. 7 Q. Was it filed with the SEC?
8 It shouldn't take that long. 8 A. Maybe.
9 MR. WORTZEL: ° Page 15, I 9 Q. Now, are you familiar with the term
10 thought. 10 generally accepted accounting principles?
11 MR. ISSER: - Page 15 of the 11 A. - Yes, semi familiar.
12 en=nlaint itself. 12 Q. - And do you know if the way Rob broke
13 A. What paragraph? 13 out revenues and the way you just testified
14 Q. Paragraph 59. 14 was consistent or inconsistent with generally
15 A. Defraud the public -- SEC filings -- 15 accepted principles?
accomting
16 Q. Other than the characterization of 16 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection to
17 the merits of your lawsuit, what other SEC 17 form.
18 filings do you think Rob Ellin defrauded the 18 A. - I'm not going to make that en=ment,
19 public? 19 because -- but I do believe there's been many
20 A. ° Okay. - In
my
-- in my opinion, I 20 misrepresentations and misleading the public.
21 believe that when you look at the financials 21 Q. - But you don't know if those were
22 he never breaks down what LiveXLive Media 22 problems that you believe -- the the
fraud,
23 actually does in revenue and in streaming, 23 way you believe he defrauded the public in
24 because I think it's minimal. - He uses 24 the SEC filings, you don't know whether that
nearly
25 actisitions like Slacker, like Wantickars to 25 is permissible under the SEC reporting
7 were, you know, when we got involved in the 7 Q. - Let's look at the letter of intent.
8 company. ° I don't remember the exact 8 MR. ISSER: ° Do you mmmiuer if
dates,
9 but he started talking about it, you know, 9 we marked the letter of intent?
10 not long after I ran into him in L.A. for, 10 MR. WORTZEL: ° It looks like tab
11 you know, the first time. 11 24.
12 Q. ° How many times did you and Rob meet 12 Q. - Pull up tab 24, please.
13 and discuss an acquisition of Wantickets by 13 MR. ISSER: ° Let's mark this.
14 LiveXLive before the letter of intent was 14 (WharêüpOñ, at this time, the
15 signed? 15 reporter marked the above-mentioned
16 A. ° He came to New York, you know, a few 16 binding letter of intent as
17 times. ° He would call me when he came to 17 Defendants' Exhibit 23 for
18 New York. ° So we met in New York. - Whenever I 18 identification.)
19 went to L.A. I would see him most of the 19 BY MR. ISSER:
20 time. ° And I was in L.A. often i- 20 Q. - Do you recognize this document?
pretty
21 we had an office in Los Angeles. 21 It's the signed letter of intent to purchase
22 Q. So how many meetings did you have 22 Wantickets RDM, LLC, dated July 19, 2016.
23 with Rob to discuss, after the subscription 23 Do you recognize this document, Mr.
24 agreements were signed, in which you 24 hnnior?
25 discussed an acquisition of Wantickets by 25 A. - Tab 24?
5 Q. - All right. - Did it discuss how much 5 he promised we would be getting the ticketing
6 LiveXLive was paying for Wantickets shares? 6 for it.
7 A. I don't recall, it's possible. 7 So, you know, when I would ask him
8 Q. Did you look at prior press ralanaan 8 for stuff like that, the actual agreement, he
9 issued see if --
by Wantickets to there was any 9 would, you know, there were he said they
10 indication in the press releases of the value 10 were proprietary and he couldn't show them to
11 of Wantickets shares being used for 11 me.
12 acquisitions? 12 There was an instance where he did
13 A. I'm not understmMng your quearinn 13 send me, I think it was a copy of, like, if
14 Q. Did you at research 14 I'm -- if
any point press not my memory serves me correctly,
15 relecGes âññóúñcing acquisitions by LiveXLive 15 a term sheet for an investment that the Bass
16 to see if they had used the value of $5 a 16 family he claimed did or was doing. And I
17 share in other acquisitions? 17 think he sent that -- I saw that. ° It wasn't
18 A. ° I believe I did, but I don't think 18 signed or anything, but it was the terms --
19 in the press releases they Msess price per 19 maybe it was a term sheet of one of the
20 but I could be wrong. I don't recall. 20 invearmants were doing. - I don't recall
share, they
21 Q. ° Do you recall looking at LiveXLive's 21 really.
22 past press releases concerning acquisitions? 22 But he was pretty much, you know, he
23 A. ° Are you saying after the LOI or 23 didn't want to show me the agreements or any
24 before the LOI? 24 kind of term sheet. ° He would tell you
me,
25 Q. ° Before signing the asset purchase 25 know, either after we close, you know, he'll
7 Q. ° It says, Hi, Joe, here is a summary. 7 Q. - He told you he landed them at that
8 The world's first and authentic premium live 8 mooring?· I'm about at the
talking meeting,
9 music streaming platform launched with a 9 nothing else. What did he say at the
10 long-term partnership with one of the 10 meeting?
11 prestigious music festivals, Rock In Rio. 11 A. - Right now I don't recall the exact
12 LiveXLive delivered a digital bróâdcâst of 12 date, but it could have been at the meeting.
13 all seven nights of Rock In Rio. 13 But he told me he landed them, but he never
14 Do you see that? ° That's 2015. - Does 14 got it. - He never got that deal.
15 that refresh your recollection whether 15 Q. - Mr. Schnaier, you say that he landed
16 LiveXLive had acquired the rights to Rock In 16 Rock In Rio. ° Now you say he told you at the
17 Rio in July 2016? 17 meeting he was in the process of getting
18 A. ° It looks like that's -- I don't 18 these festivals?
19 know. ° This doesn't say that they closed the 19 A. - I didn't say that.
20 deal with them. - I don't know. 20 Q. - What?
21 Q. ° Now, if we look, going on in 21 A. - I didn't say he was in the process.
22 paragraph 61 it says, well, it says, Ellin 22 Where?
23 and Indursky also told Mr. Scb_naier that 23 Q. - Let's look at paragraph 61. Ellin
24 LiveXLive was in the process of getting some 24 and Indursky also told Mr. Schnaier that
25 live rights for other music 25 LiveXLive was in the process of --
streaming
24 available -- the next festival date. 24 ten months later to finalize. - So if anyone
25 Q. And when would that have been if he 25 looked at that deal, they would say, Oh, this
22 A. ° Other than the extensive q11anrinns? 22 A. - Not only did they not purchase
23 Q. Correct. 23 Qello --
.5 - - - . Q.. You said he was looking to raise 100 .5 . . . . A. - I asked some people that I know,
.6 - - million, correct? .6 . . some ac~»'~+»~es to see if they knew anyone
.7 - - - . A.. No, but he had the deal done, the .7 . . at Bank of Montreal and see if they can get
.8 - - IPO done. .8 . . me information.. I even called one of the
.9 - - - . Q.. He told you in July of 2016 that he .9 . . s:»<' cate members to see if I can get
10 - - had an IPO done? 10 . . information on the deal.
11 - - - . A.. That they were working on getting 11 . . . . Q. - This was all before you signed the
12 - - $100 million IPO. 12 . . APA you took these steps?
13 - - - . Q.. Did he tell you he had it done or 13 . . . . A. - Yes.
14 - - did he tell you he was working on it? 14 . . . . Q. - You were at Gary wi~~ick's
15 - - - . A.. In 2016? 15 . .
deposition, correct?
16- - - . Q.. Yes. 16 . . . . A. - Was I at Winnick's deposition?
Gary
17 - - - . A.. At this specific meeting? 17 . . . . Q. - It was on Zoom, but you were
18 - - - . Q.. Yes. 18 . .
present, correct?
19 - - - . A.. To the best of my recollection, I 19 . . . . A. - On and off.
6 Montreal was going to do an IPO for them, 6 Q. - Mr. Schnaier, you're beyond my
7 Bank of Montreal was listed on the S1 for the 7 Hnn. - I let you go for like a half an
q
8 and it was at $100 million dollars. - So 8 hour.
IPO,
9 how did Rob Ellin or anyone at LiveXLive 9 The question is, you slid in there
10 mislead you about this? 10 that somehow Rob told you that Bank of
11 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection. 11 Montreal was committed. ° Did Rob Ellin use
12 Mischaracterizes the claim and the 12 the word committed in discussing Bank of
13 testimony and the form. 13 Montreal and the IPO?
14 Q. ° You can answer. 14 A. - Yes. ° He said it was a done deal.
15 A. ° He told me they were going to 15 Q. - I didn't ask you if he said it was a
16 raise -- it was a done deal. ° were 16 done deal. - I asked you if he used the word
They
17 raising $100 million from Bank of Montreal, 17 committed?
18 it's done. - There was going to be 18 A. - He used he used done
committed, committed,
19 funds for Wantickets to grow our business. 19 deal. - There was never interpretation for
any
20 Not only did it not happen, no one said a 20 me to understand that it was anything less
21 word about it. It was silence for weeks, for 21 than it was a done deal and it was done.
22 months later. 22 Q. - In what way wasn't it a done deal?
23 They ended up raising, to the best 23 He filed the S1. ° You were getting into this
24 of my recollection, $20 million from another 24 the first day. In what way did Rob Ellin
25 smaller investment bank, and at a 300 percent 25 mislead you? ° There's always fakeries in the
4 that it was done in that Bank of Montreal was 4 A. - So, I mean, except for the
5 $100 mi l l inn to LiveXLive? · 5 Wantickets which had zero revenue
guarantying Why deal, they
6 did you take it to mean that other than Bank 6 going into it and they had, you know,
7 of Montreal was going to try to bring off an 7 millions of dollars in revenue after they
8 IPO? 8 closed it.
9 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection. 9 Q. - So do you think Bank of Montreal
10 A. Becaume Rob told me so. ° And through 10 purposely overvalued LiveXLive at $500
11 extensive conversations with him, I was 11 million so Rob Ellin could mislead you and
12 always told that it was a done deal. - And 12 get Wantickets?
13 there was never any kind of, d«itewer you 13 MR. WORTZEL: ° Objection to
14 want to call it, best efforts or anything 14 form.
15 like that. 15 Q. - You can answer.
16 Q. You're not listening to my question, 16 MR. WORTZEL: ° Lack of personal
17 though. 17 knowledge.
18 Filing the S1 and organizing a road 18 A. - I don't know. - I'm not going to
19 show, and doing all those things, isn't that 19 spaM=+a.
20 what Rob could have meant when he said it's a 20 Q. - Do you think Bank of Montreal
21 done deal? - We're an IPO, we're 21 overvalued Wanti chen?
having hoping purposely
22 to get the best price we can. ° It was valued 22 MR. WORTZEL: ° Same objection.
23 by Bank of Montreal at 100 million or 23 A. I don't know. - I'm not going to
24 whatever it is and that's all a done deal. 24 spealate what Bank of Montreal thought.
25 And then they couldn't -- it wasn't as 25 Q. - Well Bank of Montreal, there was an
21 for se of transfer 21 -- --
delayed a day keca the any of Wantickets withdrawn any of
22 which 22 -- look
agent issues, was misleading and a lie. LiveXLive well, did you at any of
23 And the next minute you don't hear anything 23 LiveXLive's SEC filings before you closed on
24 until three months later when they raised $20 24 the APA in May of 2017?
25 million from another smaller bank. 25 A. - I believe I did.
17 Q. When did you -- you know what, 17 Q. - So you have some expertise in
18 withdrawn. 18 evaluating S1s and Securities and Exchange
19 How many S1s did LiveXLive file 19 Commission filings and things like that,
20 before it went public? 20 correct?
21 A. ° How many S1s? 21 A. - If you want to call it that, I
22 Q. ° Before they had the offering, do you 22 mean --
23 know if it revised its S1? 23 Q. - Sir, open up tab 25, please.
24 A. I don't recall. 24 MR. ISSER: ° Please mark this.
25 Q. Do you know -- well, you've been in 25 (Whereupon, at this time, the
9 July of 2016, you agree you couldn't have 9 when you signed this, you thought this was
10 been relying on the things said at those 10 going to be the transaction that would close,
11 meetings when you signed Exhibit 25, the 11 correct?
12 letter of intent in February 2016? 12 A. - In the beginning, yes, and then we
13 A. ° I'm looking -- 13 both myself and Robert --
Well, relied, parties,
14 Q. ° Let me finish. 14 Q. - I'm not you what happened.
asking
15 When you signed the February 2016 15 A. - Can you stop interrupting me? It's
16 letter of intent, you couldn't have been 16 very unprofessional.
17 relying on things that would take place after 17 MR. WORTZEL: ° Let him finish.
18 you signed this document, correct? 18 Q. It was a yes or no question.
19 A. ° Of course not after. ° But I'm 19 A. You're mnatantly interrupting me.
20 looking, this is probably a better deal than 20 MR. WORTZEL: - What was the
21 I got in July. 21 question? I'm asking the court
22 Q. ° That's fantastic. °
Putting that 22 repori.er to read back the question.
23 aside, Mr. CrhM ar, when you made that 23 (Whereupon, at this time, the requested
24 decision for Wantickets to be acquired by 24 portion was read by the
reporter.)
25 LiveXLive, that was before all of the 25 MR. WORTZEL: ° Okay. - That's --
23 I'm interrupting you, Mr. Schnaier, because 23 MR. WORTZEL: ° Go to the Court,
24 I'm finishing and I want you to just answer 24 okay?
25 finish your ° Don't
my questions. 25 Joe, answer.
3 share as well. That's the same one as the 3 involved. - I didn't know anything about
4 other one, correct? 4 Eventbrite's offer.
5 Q. ° Did you and Rob determine there 5 Q. - Now, the letter of intent that's
6 would be $25 million in February? ° You 6 Exhibit dated that was
23, July 19, 2016,
7 determined $25 mi11inn would be in 7 supposed to close by October 31, 2016,
8 consideration for Wantickets according to the 8 correct?
9 February letter of intent, correct? 9 A. - It appears so.
10 A. ° It appears so. 10 Q. - And was that extended?
11 Q. ° And the consideration in tab 24, 11 A. - I believe we did -- we wrote in an
12 which is Exhibit 23, was $20 million in 12 extension.
13 consideration, correct? 13 Q. - Now, if you look at paragraph 67 of
14 A. ° It appears so. 14 the complaint, that's Exhibit 2.
15 Q. Okay. ° So consideration A. - I'm sorry,
why did the 15 where is that?
16 go down $5 million between February and July? 16 Q. - Exhibit 2, paragraph 67.
17 A. ° To the best of my
--
well, both 17 A. - Okay.
18 prices were negotiated between me and Rob and 18 Q. - It says, Mr. Ellin also demanded
19 agreed to. I believe in the first one, there 19 that Mr. Schnaier pay for Loton to audit
20 was probably some clients that Wantickets 20 Wantickets, again, telling Mr. Schnaier that
21 had, to the best of my recollection, that we 21 this was necessary to get the deal done. So
22 didn't have when it came to the 22 on September 2016 in response to Ellin 's
signing 15,
23 second one. - I know that after I was -- I 23 Wantickets sent $75,000 to LiveXLive
demand,
24 left for a short while, the people that were 24 for the audit and on October 28, 2016, also
25 running it were Diego and Barak lost some 25 in response to Ellin's demands sent another
5 Q. Well,
looking at 81, it concerns 5 letter dated 8/22/2017 as D±ninta'
6 trades made in -- it says trade date July 17, 6 Exhibit 61 for identification.)
7 2019. ° Is the first one -- and these are all 7 BY MR. ISSER:
8 from 2019. ° Do you see that? 8 Q. - This is a collection of different
9 A. ° Am I going to another exhibit? 9 documents as identified for the court. ° The
16 MR. WORTZEL: ° No, well, that 16 believe those documents have been
17 wasn't my objection. 17 produced and were used as exhibits in
18 MR. ISSER: - All right. ° What's 18 the Dietl deposition. - We'll take it
19 your objection? 19 under advisement.
20 MR. WORTZEL: ° Well, my 20 Q. - Why did you provide Bo Dietl shares?
21 objection was to form. ° But also I 21 A. - He consulted with me and made a lot
22 was going to instruct the witness to 22 of introductions with me when I was with
23 the extent that he acknowledged -- to 23 Wantickets.
24 the extent that his answer is based 24 Q. - And how do you value the shares you
25 on information -- 25 provided to Bo Dietl?
9 A. I valued them at $5 a share as well. 9 Q. - Now, what about the last page?
10 Q. Okay. - And if you turn to the 10 There's a transfer to Claudia Fuddman of
now,
11 next this is dated 2018. - It's 11 25,000 shares. ° Did this go through?
page, May 11,
12 a letter to Computershare and it lists share 12 A. - No.
13 allocations. - It Please find the 13 Q. - And now, did you transfer 51,533
says,
14 enclnnad executed with the signature and 14 shares to the Light Group?
15 transfer form to transfer a total of 66,000 15 A. - I believe so.
16 shares of LiveXLive Media, Inc. from the 16 Q. - And was that to settle liability of
17 WantMCS Holdings IJ£ account to the three 17 $362,274.15?
18 individuals shown on the transfer form. 18 A. - I believe so.
19 Who is Jeffery Singer? 19 Q. - So that's how much you were suing
--
5 Wantickets would be a going concern 5 Did you send and receive these
6 without a capital infusion. ° So I 6 e-mails in or about December 2016?
27,
7 take it that means -- 7 A. - It looks like it.
8 MR. WORTZEL: ° Joe, just answer 8 Q. - Now, the first one, the last one on
9 yes or no. 9 the page, the first one chronologically, is
10 MR. ISSER: - He answered the 10 from ammonnor GVA and Abdullah Arab, correct?
11 question, that's fine. 11 A. - Yes.
12 MR. WORTZEL: ° So let's go on. 12 Q. - Who is GVA and who is Abdullah Arab?
13 BY MR. ISSER: 13 A. - Drovah.
14 Q. So it is your belief that after the 14 Q. - They're from Drovah. - And you
said,
15 asset purchase agreement, Wantickets did not 15 As di axM, here is the fœtnote
16 require from LiveXLive in order to 16 disclosure. - It is a summary of the audit.
money
17 continue to be a going concern? 17 I'm for the delay.- What are you
sorry
18 A. ° Oh, we were promised money from 18 senM.ng them, the audit of what?
19 LiveXLive. 19 A. - The audit that we did on Wantickets.
20 Q. I didn't ask you if you were 20 Q. - And GVA writes back
and they both --
21 if you didn't get listen to 21 work for Drovah? ° GVA and GVA advisors works
promised, money,
22 my question. 22 for Drovah?
23 Based on what you just said, was 23 A. - No. - GVA is Drovah. - Abdullah is an
24 Wantickets able to continue as a going 24 informerliary introduction.
25 concern even if LiveXLive had not put more 25 Q. - And he writes, There has been a
10 buying tickets on our site. ° So Rob and I 10 e-mail as Defendants' Exhibit 36 for
11 were about -- haeanna he 11 identification.)
constantly talking
12 had zero subscribers. - So Rob and I were 12 BY MR. ISSER:
13 natantly talking about how to move our 13 Q. - Do you see at the top it's an e-mail
14 ennnumars to become LiveXLive 14 from you to Jeff Keswin. ° Correct? ° These are
paying
15 subscribers. ° Because we had -- like I 15 e-mails between you and Jeff Keswin.
said,
16 we had a lot of -- we had millions of buyers 16 Do you remember and
senM_ng
17 on our site. 17 receiving these e-mails in April of 2017?
18 Q. ° So you're talking about converting 18 A. - It looks look I did.
19 LiveXLive subscribers into Wantickets 19 Q. - Who is Jeff Keswin?
20 purchasers? 20 A. - He's a hedge fund manager. ° He has a
21 A. ° No. ° LiveXLive never had 21 fund, private equity.
22 subscribers. Wantickets had all of the 22 Q. - And why were you -- if you look at
23 ennan=rs buying tickets daily for different 23 the bottom, it says, Joe, attached is the
24 events. ° Like I Rob and I would 24 2016 12-month financial araramnt from
said,
25 constantly talk about how we're going to 25 Richard Blakeley to you, I assume, because it
19 that LiveXLive was valued $5 a share? 19 Q. - How would the liabilities be paid?
20 Q. ° Yes. 20 Go ahead.
21 A. ° It's not in here. ° I don't see it, 21 A. - He was going to help me -- let me
22 but those are the only numbers we disc ssed, 22 liquidate some of the shares to cover not
23 and that's the -- 23 the but to also cover some
only only liabilities,
24 Q. Why did you change the letter of 24 of my stuff that I needed.
25 intent when instead of buying the company 25 Q. - He told you that? - Is that in an
5 Mr. Blakeley that Wantickets lost $15millinn 5 A. - And that's one of the reasons --
23 Q. ° So let's look at -- so under 7.4 of 23 and answered. We went over this last
24 the asset purchase agreement to which this 24 time.
25 applies, you're agreeing to pay
-- you agree 25 MR. ISSER: ° Let's move on. ° Go
18 A. I don't know about 200,000. 18 today, are there any judgments against you,
19 Q. Over 200,000. 19 either pnMng or which have been paid?
20 A. I don't know. 20 A. - No.
21 Q. Well, I mean, do you know if they 21 Q. - That's the only judgments?
22 made an affidavit in support of a motion for 22 A. - To the best of my recollection, yes .
23 summary judgment in lieu of complaint? 23 Q. - All right. ° Turn to tab 69, please.
24 A. ° I believe so. 24 MR. ISSER: ° For the record this
25 Q. And in that, do they claim you 25 is LXL 210382.
15 Q. You don't know if $498,000 was owed 15 paid some of it off and the Light group we
16 in mectanMn" payables to Wantickets before 16 paid off which was that judgment.
17 the APA was closed and that those clients 17 Q. - Open tab 40, please.
18 would leave if they were not paid? 18 MR. ISSER: ° This is, for the
19 A. I don't know if they would leave if 19 record, a letter to Joe Schnaier
20 they were not paid, but I don't know if that 20 dated May 31, 2017 from Blake
21 number is -- I would have to go back into the 21 Indursky.
22 books and see what the numbers are. 22 (Whereupon, at this time, the
23 Q. ° Do you have any reason to dispute 23 reporter marked the above-monrinned
8 your obligation under section 7.4 of the APA 8 Q. - I understand that, I get it.
9 to properly pay for such liabilities in 9 A. - I'm asking you, is that what you're
10 excess of 100 grand. 10 talking about?
11 From the closing date, did you ever 11 Q. - A, yes, I am. ° But B, I am --
12 pay those liabilities or Danco or any company 12 A. - Then they were paid. - I believe
they
13 you're affiliated with ever pay 148,000 in 13 were paid.
14 liabilities? 14 Q. - Really? So when they tell you that
15 A. I'm not sure which liability you're 15 they remind you of your obligation to pay
16 talking about. 16 this, you're saying they were paid up?
17 Q. ° The 148,005. - Do you dispute that 17 A. - I was paid up until the day they
18 from April 1, 2017 to the closing date, 18 fired me without cause.
19 Wantickets incurred liabilities of 148,005? 19 Q. - Just to be clear then, you paid --
20 A. ° I would have to go back and take a 20 in this paragraph, all of the necessary loss
21 look at that. ° I don't know if that's I 21 claim you owed, you claim you
true, liability they
22 would have to go back. 22 paid?
23 Q. ° Did you ask for documentation to 23 A. - I paid whatever the nacananry loss
24 demonstrate that that was an accurate number? 24 was up until the day they fired me without
25 A. ° This was a letter from their 25 cause. - I can say that 100 more times if you
14 - - back and said, Oh, you weren't s ~used to 14 . . . . A. - I believe so.. There may have been
15 - - get paid, because there were losses. in - But 15 . . another one.
16 - - reality, I never saw any of the losses, nor 16 . . . . Q. - Do you know if there was another
17 - - did they.. And they' re just throwing that out 17 . . one?
18 - - there because the losses came out already 18 . . . . A. - I can't remember but this
exactly,
19 - - after the fact when I got paid. 19 . . is one of the letters, yes.
20 - - - . Q.. And just to be clear, though, did 20 . . . . Q. -
Now, let's pull up tab 39.
21 - - you ever repay the $18,333.33 you received in 21 . . . . . - - -MR. ISSER: . This is your
22 - - salary that they claim you were not entitled 22 . . . . .emplo:~t agreement for the record.
23- - to? 23..... - - -
(Whereupon, at this time, the
24 - - - . A.. To be clear, I was — I covered all 24 . . . . .reporter marked the above-mentioned
25 - - of the losses up until the day I was fired 25 . . . . .employment agreement as Defendants'
25 wasted and nonresponsive but let's 25 bills from before the asset purchase
23 the truth you're a disaster and lied to stick 23 e-mail as Defendant's Exhibit 52 for
24 us with -
company. Buy back your stock today. 24 identification.)
25 Do you see that? 25 BY MR. ISSER:
6 That's the next e-mail from Rob to 6 thinks you never wanted to put money in to
7 - We need
you. Is any of that not true? 7 grow this business. to talk.
8 A. ° Yes. 8 Did you send this e-mail?
9 Q. ° Revs were being lost? 9 A. It looks like I did.
10 A. ° That's Rob being Rob and trying to 10 Q. Did you think at that point that Rob
11 hurt with Bo. ° Bo knew he was 11 wanted to put in to grow this business?
my relationship money
12 full of crap. And as a matter of fact, I'm 12 A. - Well, this was a few months after
13 just trying to see -- I let him rant on these 13 and, you know, it was apparent that he was
14 e-mails because there was no point in 14 just to the company. ° He would
arguing trying destroy
15 with him. ° He's you 15 tease me on a weekly basis that he was going
constantly, know,
16 bullying and trying to intimidate and bad 16 to fire this person and fire that person.
17 mouthing and this is his M.O. so I allowed 17 People I cared about, these were my
18 him to rant. 18 employees.
19 Q. ° So let's look at the second to last 19 Q. - well --
20 e-mail on the first page, where Rob writes to 20 A. - And he would tease me like they was
21 I know you created all these 21 some kind of -- like and he
you, nothing garbage,
22 liabilities, yes, well aware of when and all 22 would just fire them, you know, until I give
23 of the other customers he didn't pay. - That's 23 him what he wants, which all he wanted was
24 with 24 even ° He
why we only bought asset ironclad money, not to pay the liabilities.
25 agreement you were paying all money you 25 even asked Bo -- Bo was thinking about
14 erratic and you are making decisions that are 14 lock-up and no shorting agreement as
15 and will be bad for the company. 15 Defendants' Exhibit 54 for
16 Why did you want to unwind the 16 identification.)
17 transaction? 17 BY MR. ISSER:
18 A. ° Because prior to the transaction he 18 Q. - Is that your signature on the last
19 was a different person and then once we 19 page, Mr. Schnaier?
20 closed, he became a much different person. 20 A. - Yes.
21 He was acting erratic, he was threatening to 21 Q. - And this is dated May 5, 2017. It
22 fire employees, he was sending me texts all 22 concerns the shares you received as part of
23 hours of the night. - You he was 23 the asset purchase correct?
know, like, agreement,
24 on something, I don't even know. 24 A. - This is --
yes, the lock-up was
25 And it was intolerable. It was 25 for -- yes.
24 A. ° Okay. ° But after these things were 24 ten minutes, you said?
25 said, he would usually have, you know, Blake 25 MR. WURTZEL: ° Yes. - Just to be
8 A. In his bio, which I saw on his site, 8 involved in someone's personal life like
9 he mentioned different companies that he 9 that, I mean, you develop a trust.
10 started and exited nuccannfully, places that 10 Q. - Mr. Schnaier, what in your personal
11 he's stuff like that. - And I marchad 11 with Mr. Ellin formed your
worked, relationship
12 it up when I did a search on it, and they all 12 annonament of his honesty?
13 matched up to what he said on his bio. - So it 13 MR. ISSER: ° Objection to form.
14 14 -- what in
looked good it me. A. My personal my personal
15 Q. - When you were reviewing Mr. Ellin's 15 relationship? ° Can you repeat the question,
16 bio, what specifically were you looking for? 16 please?
17 A. ° I was looking for past deals, and 17 Q. - What elements of your personal
18 past -- maybe some past capital raises that 18 informed your assessment of
relationahip
19 he's done for his companies and stuff like 19 Mr. Ellin's honesty?
20 that. 20 MR. ISSER: ° Objection.
21 Q. ° And what, specifically, in 21 A. Just the fact that we spent a lot of
22 Mr. Ellin's bio did you consider in assessing 22 time together and, like I said, we had many,
23 Mr. Ellin's honesty? 23 many extensive conversations, very detailed
24 MR. ISSER: - Objection to form. 24 conversations, not just about business, but
25 A. the stuff -- some of the stuff 25 about personal life as well. - I I
Well, met, like
23 2015 to determine whether LiveXLive Media was 23 you know, everything I had questions on,
24 from other investors at $5 per 24 everything. - But as far as the due
raising money diligence,
25 share and you said, among other things, that 25 it was third parties outside the --
17 LiveXLive Media was in the process of getting 17 complaint you allege that in July 2016
18 the live streaming rights for major music 18 Mr. Ellin and Mr. Indursky told you that
19 festivals, including Coachella, Tomorrow 19 LiveXLive was about to launch a major public
20 Land, Glastonbury Festival, Lala Palooza and 20 offering to raise $100 million.
21 Bonnaroo. 21 What, if anything, did you do to
22 What, if anything, did you do to 22 investigate whether this statement was true?
23 investigate whether this statamant was true? 23 MR. ISSER: ° Objection to form.
24 MR. ISSER: - Objection. 24 A. I asked him an enormous amount of
25 A. I had extensive conversations with 25 quaarinns. - I drove him
probably crazy every
7 opposed to your understanding when your 7 harkad LiveXLive's website or the other
8 questioned would 8 festivals' websites that we discussed?
attorney you, charking
9 LiveXLive's website to see if deals or 9 A. - I did look at LiveXLive's website.
10 festivals or acquisitions had been -·· =M, 10 Q. - What about checking SEC filings?
11 would that be part of due diligence or not? 11 Would that be part of due diligence, as you
12 A. ° Well, I didn't consider that 12 understood it? Checking LiveXLive's SEC
13 third-party informarinnc but it's possible. 13 filings, would that be part of due diligence
14 Depends on how you characterize due 14 as you understood it when you answered my
15 diligence. 15 questions on direct?
16 Q. I'm you. ° You used the 16 A. - I did look at SEC filings.
Well, asking
17 characterization in your direct testimony 17 Q. - That's not what I asked you.
18 with me, so I'm asking you if checking 18 Was that part of your understanding
19 LiveXLive's website was part of what you 19 of what due diligence encompasses?
20 considered due diligence when you answered my 20 A. - Probably.
21 questions. 21 Q. - It's not probably. - It's your
22 A. ° At the time that I answered your 22 definition of due diligence that you've now
23 question? 23 kind of changed or clarified or whatever you
24 Q. ° Yes. 24 want to say. ° You tell me.
25 A. I don't -- I'm not sure what I was 25 When I asked you all these questions
22 - - be clear.. The only thing you didn't include 22 . . . . Q. - And you think LiveXLive had things
23 - - when you di —"=== ' due diligence when I asked 23 . . to hide and didn't want to show you all its
24 - - you questions was conversations you had had 24 . . cards?
19 - - the other side of a transaction.. With that 19 . . didn't think it was a little strange that he
20 - - definition, did Wantickets provide as part of 20 . . wouldn't show you that contract?
21 - - due diligence of Wantickets' business all of 21 . . . . . - - -MR. WURTZEL: . Objection to
22 - - its contracts with its customers to be 22.....form.
23 - - reviewed 23 . . . . A. - I did think I was entitled that'
by LiveXLive? s
24 - - - . A.. I believe, yes, that was part of the 24 . .
why I asked him.
25- - audit. 25 . . . . Q. - But that he didn't show it to you,
Randy h+am
18 or if there was 18 conceivable when someone -- when Rob is
announcing
19 anything on LiveXLive's website concerning 19 telling me about these festivals that he
20 Randy Jackson; is that correct? 20 acquired to think, as soon as he says
21 A. ° I guess, yes. - I don't think I 21 something to me, let me find out what date it
22 looked at any -- I didn't see any press 22 is so I can go behind him and go look at the
23 releases on it. 23 website and see if he's lying to me. I mean,
24 Q. ° Did you look for any? 24 that is not conceivable. ° That wasn't
my
25 A. I don't recall if I looked for any. 25 first train of thought.
13 repronantat ions were accurate? 13 according to you Rob told you there was a
14 A. ° Oh, I spoke to David Wells about it 14 commitment letter for $100,000 IPO. ° So you
15 as well. 15 had all the details.
16 Q. ° Fantastic. -
Anything else besides 16 A. - Correct.
17 David Wells and LiveXLive? 17 Q. - That's proprietary. -
Why shouldn't
18 A. ° Well, he was the acting CEO. 18 you see that letter -- withdrawn.
19 Q. I understand. - I didn't ask you what 19 A. - Not did he tell me that, but he
only
20 he was. ° He's on the chalkboard. - We have 20 also wrote to me that the deal is signed with
21 Blake and let's assume maybe 21 Bank of Montreal. ° The deal is signed with
Rob, Indursky
22 other LiveXLive people. ° Aside from David 22 Bank of Montreal.
23 Wells and LiveXLive people, what steps, if 23 Q. - But signed, you would agree, signed
24 any, did you take to confirm the accuracy of 24 could mean they're doing an IPO and it
25 Rob's claims to not be able to provide you 25 doesn't have to be a commitment, correct?
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objections 342:8 350:6 opinion 326:2 332:12,19 20,24 483:11 507:18 511:14
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partners 538:4 562:9 671:18 437:18 446:5 449:6 450:15 pick 326:22
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pre 367:21 509:17 510:21,24 617:17 620:18 625:19 properly 557:3 580:9 584:14
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456:6 482:19,20 528:16 593:21 693:21 716:12,24 388:16 402:15 405:4 407:2
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FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 07/16/2021 12:44 PM INDEX NO. 651538/2018
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NYSCEF DOC. NO. 418 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 07/16/2021
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640:22 325:11,21 326:5 327:6 552:16,20 554:23 570:18
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U. S. LEGAL SUPPORT
(877) 479-2484