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TC/TG/TRG MINUTES COVER SHEET

(Minutes of all TC/TG/TRG Meetings are to be distributed to all persons listed below within 60 days
following the meeting.)

TC/TG/TRG NO. TC6.1 DATE March 17, 2011

TC/TG/TRG TITLE Steam and Hydronic Systems
DATE OF MEETING February 1, 2011 LOCATION Las Vegas, NV

MEMBERS PRESENT YEAR MEMBERS ABSENT YEAR EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS AND

APPTD APPTD ADDITIONAL
Voting Voting
Steve Anthony 2007 Thomas Butcher 2007 Mark Armstrong
Tricia Bruenn 2009 John Glunt 2009 Hooman Daneshmand
Scott Fisher 2009 Torben Nielsen 2009 John Dunlap
Mark Hegberg 2008 Michael O’Rourke 2007 Hans Hansen
Trevor Houck 2010 Steven Tredinnick 2009 Chris Kerback
Julia Keen 2010 Rick Larson
Reddy Palicharla 2007 Bhumika Lathia
Corresponding Corresponding Asist Patel
Ramez Afify 2010 Roy Ahlgren 2009 Gay Powell
Jason Atkisson 2010 Peter Baade 2008 William Schulte
Robert Bean 2005 Donald Bahnfleth 2006 Saunders Smith
Niels Bidstrup 2009 William Bahnfleth 2007 Mike Trantham
Tom Cappellin 2010 David Bixby 1994 David Yuill
William Coad 2007 Albert Black 1987
Kim Cross 2010 Cyrus Blackmore 2007
Fredric Goldner 2009 Raymond Albrecht 2002
Larry Konopacz 2008 Charles Arnold 2003
Ken Luther 2010 Gil Avery 2006
Michael McDermott 2010 William Bahnfleth 2007
Frank Myers 2007 Thomas Butcher 2010
Donald Prather 2010 Jeff Boldt 2010
Rex Scare 2010 Michael Collarin 2010
Greg Towsley 2009 Kelly Cramm 2006
Edward Tsui 2010 Vikram Doshi 1996
Robert Walker 2010 Farhad Golestan 2010
Wilbur Haag Jr. 1995
Richard Hegberg 2010
Martha Hewett 2009
Kevin Hoey 2003
 Joseph Hoose 2005
Chris Jacques 2009
Miha Kavcic 2007
Jack Kersten 1996
Trace Laux 2010
Evans Lizardos 2010
Thomas Logan 1996
Kenneth Magsam 2010
Zoltan Magyar 2005
Terrence Moses 2001
Mark Mueller 1999
Marc Neufcourt 2010
Drew Overmiller 2008
Earl Rightmier 1987
James Rishel 2005
Brent Ross 2009
Aniruddh Roy 2008
James Schlachter 2006
Alexander Sleiman 2003
Donald Smiley 2003
Harvey Stenger 2010
Kevin Stuart 2010
Bodh Subherwal 2010
Joseph Thuman 1999
David Tree 2001
William Trusty 2001
Dennis Tuttle 1994
George Wallace 1998

All Members of TC/TG/TRG plus the following:

T AC Section Head: John Dunlap, PE
TAC Chair Donald Brundage
All Committee Liaisons as Shown on TC/TG/TRG Roster ALI/PDC - Mendy Florention
Chapter Technology – Corey Metzger
Handbook Fundamentals – Forrest Yount
Handbook Fundamentals – David Yuill, PE
Research - Jaap J Hogeling, ME
Standards – James Vallort
Manager of Standards Stephanie Reiniche
Staff Liason/Research/Tech Services Michael Vaughn
 MEETING MINUTES
TC 6.1 Hydronic and Steam Equipment and Systems
Las Vegas, NV
February 1, 2011

1. Call to Order:
Chair Fisher called the meeting to order. The Chair welcomed all in attendance, and
self-introductions were made. An attendance sheet was passed and signed by those in
attendance. Secretary Walker called the roll of voting members. A quorum was
present with 7 of 11 voting members present, 4 absent, and 1 non-quorum voting
member absent.

Technical Committee 6.1 is concerned with all aspects of hydronic

and steam systems. This includes the application of boilers,
chillers, terminal units, and all accessories and controls making up
the total system as well as the design of the integrated system. In
addition to comfort applications of both heating and cooling, snow
melting systems are included. Cooperation with other TCs is
recognized in areas such as control, noise and vibration,
refrigeration, pumps and hydronic and service water piping.

2. Setting of the Agenda:

The Chair passed out an updated Agenda and there were no suggested revisions.

3. Approval of Albuquerque Meeting Minutes

Motion by Mark Hegberg, seconded by Julia Keen to approve the Albuquerque
minutes. Motion passed 6-0-0 with the Chair abstaining.

4. Section 6 Breakfast
Chair Fisher summarized the key points of the Section 6 Breakfast (notes attached).

Chair Fisher reminded all to verify the latest entry/exit requirements to Canada as the
laws have changed since Quebec City.

5. Sub-Committee Reports

A. Handbook: Mark Hegberg (Chair)/Tricia Bruenn (Vice Chair). Subcommittee

Meeting Minutes of January 30 and a 2012 Systems Handbook Closeout Schedule
are attached.

Vote on chapters will occur prior to Montreal via conference call or letter ballot.

Hegberg called for comments on all chapters prior to February 28, 2011.

B. Research: Tom Cappellin (Incoming Chair). Chair Cappellin noted the

outstanding RTARs need to be brought back to life. Hegberg to supply Cappellin
with copies of these RTARs.
 Suggested future research topic is the effects of water treatment on hydronic piping and
valves.

Robert Bean suggested to the subcommittee a research topic for testing and evaluating
the various valve characteristics. Chair Cappellin will reply with an appropriate work
statement or RTAR on this topic.

C. Membership: John Glunt (Chair) was absent. Chair Fisher reminded all to verify
their current contact information.

D. Standards: Mike O’Rourke (Chair) was absent. No report available.

Chair Fisher reports Guideline 22-08 is up for renewal. M. Hegberg made a motion to
reaffirm the guideline as is, seconded by J. Keen. Vote of 6-0-0 to reaffirm with the chair
abstaining.

E. WEB Site: Rex Scare (Chair) Chair Fisher repeated the positive comments
received regarding the web site and thanked Rex for his efforts. Chair Scare
attended Google Group Webinar which will permit on line discussions prior to TC
Meetings. Chair Scare felt there would be some duplication of what was already
present on the website, but will investigate.

F. Chilled Water Sub Committee : Steve Tredinnick (Chair), absent. January 30

Subcommitte Meeting Minutes attached. Tredinnick asked for “vounteers” for
the various sections of the proposed Chilled Water Plant Design Chapter. An
interest sheet was sent around the room with volunteers indicating their interest.
This will be forwarded to Tredinnick.

G. Programs: Mike McDermott (Chair). Chair McDermott reported all TC 6.1

programs were rejected for Montreal, but are being revised and re-submitted for
Chicago. Attached sub-committee meeting notes and a Program and Papers
Timeline for Montreal and Chicago.

H. ALI. Greg Towley (Chair): Chair Towley reported SDL 12 - The Fundamentals
of Hydronic Systems self directed learning course contract revisions was awarded
the contract through the Chicago meeting to Mark Hegberg. 2-3 reviewers are
needed to review the content. Members Fisher and Bruenn volunteered to review.

M. Hegberg made a motion to accept the reports of the sub-committees, seconded

by J. Keen. Voice vote of 6-0-0 to accept with the chair abstaining.

6. Liason Reports.
A. Section Head (John Dunlap). Dunlap reviewed the Multi-Disciplinary Team
(MDT) to coordinate efforts among the Technical Committees, internal
committees, external societies and groups.
 B. Handbook 2009 (David Yuill). Relocation of Systems Chapter 45 reconfirmed to
Fundamentals Chapter 22.

C. 90.1 (Ken Luther). Luther supplied a ‘wish list’ of recommendations for the next
edition of 90.1, with the idea of more ideas coming from the TCs vs. from the
90.1 Standard.

7. Approve/Disapprove Research Projects

No Action required.

8. Old Business:
A. M. Hegberg made a motioned to remove from old business the new idea on steam
heating systems and water savining opportunities in steam systems, both inquries
to TC 6.1 J. Keen seconded, motion passed 6-0-0, with the chair abstaining.
B. Response returned for the anchor force calculations from the last meeting.
C. Standard 125-1992 was reaffirmed at the Albuquerque meeting, drop from old
business.
D. TC 6.10 work statement RP 1517 complete, delete from old business.
E. STD 90.1 domestic water booster pump operation discussion is complete, drop
from old business.
F. M. Hegberg and S. Fisher addressed the performance standard for air/dirt
separators. Item is complete.
G. Origin of “Heating Effect” present in the current I=B=R certified ratings.
Researched at Kansas State University, item complete.
H. Boiler Efficiency Enhancements to be carried forward to next meeting. SPC 115
addresses this, however, the agreements among the committee have been
breeched and the committee can’t approve the draft standard for publication. The
research project to develop software for this has also been placed on hold.

9. New Business/Industry Update

A. W. Coad proposed revising the Hydronic System Balancing Valve and submit this
revision to the Standards Sub-committee. M. Hegberg made the motion,
seconded by T. Bruenn, and passed 6-0-0 with the chair abstaining.

10. Meeting Adjournment:

A motion was made by Mark Hegberg to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Tricia
Bruenn, the motion passed 6-0-0 with the chair abstaining. The meeting was
adjourned at 3:25pm.

Submitted by,
Bob Walker.
TC 6.1 Secretary
 AGENDA
SECTIO TC/TG/TRG CHAlR'S BREAKFAST MEETING
20 II Winter Meeting
Las Vegas, NV
Sunday, January 30
6:30 A.M. - 8:00 A.M. EST
2nd Floor - North Hall- Las Vegas Convention Center

Section 1, N239 Room Section 2, N231 Room Section 3, N225 Room

Section 4, N224 Room Section 5, 230 Room Section 6, N227 Room
Section 7, 235 Room Section 8, N228 Room Section 9, N213 Room
Section 10, N218 Room

1. CALL TO ORDER

II. ROLL CALL AND INTRODUCTIONS (5 minutes)

III. ADDITIONS AND/OR CHANGES TO THE AGENDA (5 minutes)

IV. REVIEW MINUTES/NOTES, SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS, ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING,
A D EW ISSUES (30 minutes).
New Assignments:
A. To be determined

V. IDENTIFY SHARED OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLE GES FOR SECTION (10 minutes).
Society Strategic Plan? Research Strategic Plan?, Handbook workshop reconunendations?, etc.

VI. REVIEW SECTION MBOs (10 minutes).

Discuss section and TC MBOs for this year and coming year and how the section can work together to
address them or establish section and TC MBOs if not already done.

VII. DISTRIBUTE WRITTEN INFORMATIO AND REQUESTS FROM SOCIETY LWSONS TO

TC/TGITRG CHAIRS (30 minutes).
Additional Announcements/Reminders:
1. 2010-2011Hightower Award Recipient - Gary Phetteplace, TC 6.2 & 6.8
2. 11-12 Roster update process & TC input deadline
3. TC/TG/TRG Chair's Training Workshop Reminder
4. Location of Section Head Mailboxes at this Society meeting
5. Upcoming Advanced Energy Design Guide (AEDG) Broad Peer Reviews
6. Special effort to welcome new members, and visitors (potential members), particularly international
members, to TC meetings
7. Useful TC/TGITRG Chair Information on ASHRAE website
8. Status on Tech. Council Steering Committees (BIM, AEDGs, Bldg. Performance Metrics).
9. CEC proposed or recently implemented technical program changes
10. Report on TCITGITRG websites in Section (SHs need to report to TCs which sites are not up to date.)
11. ASHRAE Google Groups/Sites tools for TCs/TGs and TRGs
12. Send requests in for new "Help Wanted" section on technical committee page of ASHRAE website
13. Option for TC Subcommittee Meetings via Conference Calls and Web Meetings
14. Upcoming Program Submission Dates
15. Upcoming Conferences/Workshops
16. Border Entry/Exit Requirements for 20 II Annual Meeting in Montreal, Canada

VIII. REMARKS FROM SOCIETY LIAISONS TO TC/TGITRG CHAIRS

Liaison members from Research Administration, ASHRAE Program, Handbook, Standards, and other
standing committees will have an opportunity to describe their committee activities that relate to the
TCITGITRG functions, if time permits. Written announcements must be provided as a minimum by liaisons
in order to have an opportunity to speak at this meeting.

ADJOURN
 Announcements and Reminders for TCITG/TRG Chairs
Las Vegas 2011

1. 2010-2011 Hightower Award Recipient - Gary Phetteplace, TCs 6.2 & 6.8
Dr. Phetteplace is being honored by TC 6.8 for recently chairing an ad hoc committee to
help resolve a difference of opinion in content to the geothermal chapter of the
Applications Handbook for 2011. Gary supported TC 6.2 by completing a major restructure
and edit of chapter 11 of the 2008 Systems & Equipment handbook. He was also named
as a significant contributor to the 1996-2008 editions of the HVAC Systems Handbook. He
is a great example of a TC member going the extra mile by attending numerous district
energy conferences in order to stay current and brief the TC and by attending all TC 6.2
subcommittee meetings.

2. 10-11 Rosters update process and process for adding provisional CMs
Remember, the 2010-2011 Roster is in effect until after the June meeting this year. The
new rosters for 2011-2012 will go into effect on July 1,2011 based upon the update
information that each TC or TG turns into their section head at this meeting by midnight,
Tuesday, 2/1/11. Please see your section head for the 2011-2012 Roster Update form if
you still need a copy.

By now, each TC chair should have received a PDF & MS-Excel file of their 2010-2011
roster from their Section Head for distribution to the TC. In addition, each member can
view all of the rosters of their committees on the ASHRAE Website. Go to www.ashrae.org
<http://www.ashrae.org>.clickonthe .•Membership .. tab in the headerclick on "Manage
Your Membership" text in the left sidebar, and log in (if you have not logged in lately, you
,--- might need to set up a new username and password). Click on the "Biographical Record
System" link. Now, you should see your current "bio info". Click on "My Committees" on
the left sidebar; all of the committees you are a member of will appear. Click on the "blue"
roster text at the left hand side of a committee to reveal the roster with linked contact
information. Make sure everyone on your committee also knows how to access the roster.

The Provisional Corresponding Member position was created for TC/TGITRG rosters last
year. This position allows potential new members to be added by staff to the committee
roster any time a request for membership is made by an individual. The position has a 2-
year term on the committee. Staff will notify the chair and reissue a new roster to the
committee any time a provisional member is added. The TC/TG/TRG chair has the option
each year during the regular roster update process to convert provisional CMs that have
. been active participants on the committee the past year into regular CMs or voting
members or drop them.

3. TC/TGITRG Chair's Training Workshop Reminder

Sunday, January so", 9:45-10:45a in the Las Vegas Hilton Hotel, Pavilion 6 Room (1st
floor level). As with the Breakfast meeting, both the Chair and Vice-Chair are expected to
attend; attendance will be tracked so that we can assess who has been trained. Bring
questions - if you need an answer, it's quite likely others also need the same answer. This
particular session will also include at the beginning a brief presentation and Q&A session
with the chair of the Conferences & Exhibitions Committee (CEC) chair, Bill Dietrich,
concerning the meeting technical program and recent or planned changes to it.

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4. Location of Section Head Mailboxes at this Society meeting & Free Wi-Fi Access
Just outside ASHRAE Headquarters Office (Conference Rooms #1-3 - 1st floor - Las
Vegas Hilton).

This Society meeting only we will also have free Wi-Fi access in all meeting rooms of the
Las Vegas Convention Center that we will be using.

Upcoming Advanced Energy Design Guide (AEDG) Broad Peer Reviews

The following four reviews are planned between now and the annual meeting:

• February 14 through Feb 25

Energy Efficiency Guide for Existing Commercial Buildings: Technical Implementation
- 60% Draft

• February 21 through March 4

50% Advanced Energy Design Guide for K-12 School Buildings - 60% Draft

• April 18 through April 29

Performance Measurement Protocols: Best Practices Guide - 60% Draft

• April 25 through May 6

50% Advanced Energy Design Guide for K-12 School Buildings - 90% Draft

All dates listed above are subject to slight adjustment. Please check the AEDG section of
the ASHRAE website at the following link for the latest information:
http://www.ashrae.org/technology/page/938

6. Welcome All Visitors to your TC meetings

Potential new members for your committee have been encouraged to drop-by your
meeting in Las Vegas. As a result, please make a special effort to recognize and warmly
welcome all visitors to your meeting - A TC can never have too many willing and able
volunteers.

7. Useful TC/TG/TRG Chair Information and forms on ASHRAE website

Information for TCITG/TRG chairs can be found on the Technical Committee page of the
ASH RAE website at the following link: http://www.ashrae.org/technology/page/1 04.

The Section Breakfast for TCITG/TRG ChairsNice-Chairs is Sunday, January 30th, 6:30-
8:00a in the North hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center (2nd floor); specific room
assignments are listed in the "TC/SPC Meeting Schedule" for Las Vegas at
http://www.ashrae.org/events/page/1 925. Both the Chair and Vice-Chair are expected to
attend. Please arrive early if you would like to have breakfast. An agenda will be
distributed Saturday evening, January 29 (after TAC meets earlier that day). The meeting
will include the opportunity to interact with liaisons from Society standing committees
(Handbook, RAC, etc.) and in some cases Society leadership.

Please make sure that your Research Subcommittee Chair attends the Research
Subcommittee breakfast on Monday, January 31st at 6:30 a.m.-8:00 a.m. in the Las Vegas

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 Hilton Hotel, Ballroom A (1st Floor level). A large portion of the meeting will be dedicated
to training and interface time with your Research Liaison

Status on Tech. Council Steering Committees (BIM, AEDGs, Bldg. Performance

Metrics)
A new heading entitled "Current Technical Focus of Society" has been added to the
ASHRAE website "Technical Committee" page with links to information on the activities
and plans of the new Tech. Council Steering Committees on Building Information Modeling
(BIM), Advanced Energy Design Guides (AEDGs), Building Performance Metrics, and
Building Safety and Security as well as ASH RAE Special Projects.

CEC proposed or recently implemented technical program changes

• Badge scanning is being implemented at this meeting for the first time to track
continuing education credits for each attendee.
• Nearly all the sessions at this meeting qualify for New York State PDH credits. CEC
hopes to do the same in the future for USGBC credits.
• . All Society technical programs going forward will include the following two broad
tracks in order to provide space for almost any high-quality TC program submitted:
o HVAC&R Fundamentals & Applications
o HVAC&R Systems & Equipment
• The eight tentative tracks for the 2012 Annual Meeting in San Antonio are as follows:
o Alternate Technologies
o Integrated Energy Systems
o I Indoor Environmental Applications
o Building Modeling Applications
0' Specialized Applications -Archival Museum & Assembly Spaces
OJ Refrigeration Applications
Q HVAC&R Systems & Equipment
.0 HVAC&R Fundamentals & Applications
• CEC has offered to work with TC Program Chairs to help improve the quality of their
abstracts prior to their formal submission to CEC in order to improve its chances for
acceptance. Please encourage your Program Chair to stop by the Speaker's Lounge
at any Society meeting to meet with CEC members for this purpose.

10. TC/TGITRG Websites

Is your committee website up to date? If not, please ask your webmaster to at least post
the latest minutes and Las Vegas meeting times and agenda. If your website has been
neglected, add an action item for this meeting to appoint a responsible member of the
TC/TG/TRG who will bring it back to life. This form of communication is critical to the
efficient operation of your committee, and for attracting new members.

Y . TAC and the Electronic Communications Committee (ECC) plan to stage a webinar this
{, spring on how to set-up and maintain a basic TC website using the ASHRAE server and
1 TC website template. Watch for future announcements concerning this webinar.

~ ASHRAE Google Groups/Sites tools for TCslTGs and TRGs

, Another tool that ECC is recommending that TC's use for their online collaboration space
. instead of a password protected "Members Only" folder on their TC website is Google

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 ~ Groups/Sites. Among other benefits, all members of the Google Sites can post new
IU information to the group site instead of just the TC webmaster.

TAC and the Electronic Communications Committee (ECC) staged two webinars this past
fall on how to set-up and maintain a basic ASHRAE Google Group/Sites. A copy of the
training presentation is posted on the Technical Committee page of the ASHRAE website
at the following link under the heading Procedures, Forms and Information for TCs/TGs,
and TRGs: http://www.ashrae.org/technology/page/1 04.

New "Help Wanted" section for TCs to be Added to ASH RAE Website
A new "Help Wanted" section will be added to the Technical Committee page of the
ASHRAE website so that TCs can advertise requests for help. Requests could include
calls for new members, a webmaster, reviewers and contributors for a handbook chapter
or special publication, special expertise that resides outside the TC, equipment donors for
a research project, etc. Requests should be for needs that need to be fulfilled within the
next 6-12 months. Chapter Technology Transfer Committee (CTTC) will assist in this effort
by making sure ASH RAE chapters are aware of this request list. Please pass on any
requests for your TC to the Manager of Research and Technical Services, Mike Vaughn,
at [email protected] or [email protected]

13. Option for TC Subcommittee Meetings via Conference Calls and Web Meetings:
More and more TCs are taking advantage of a new Society service that allows TCs to hold
slJbcommittee meetings by phone and/or web. Many TCs are finding this to be a more
-efficient way for them to conduct subcommittee business and it also allows TC members
that can't travel to meetings on a regular basis a way to still contribute to the TC. Such a
change can also eliminate potential conflicts with the TC's program sessions at Society
meetings. Please pass your conference call/web meeting/webinar requests on to the
Manager of Research and Technical Services, Mike Vaughn, at [email protected] or
[email protected]

~uPCOming Program Dates

~ Montreal Meeting - June 25-29, 2011
• Theme: Net-Zero Buildings
• Montreal Seminar and Forum Sessions are due February 14, 2011
• Final Technical Papers & Full Conf. Papers are due March 7, 2011
• Conference Website with Track Grid:www.ashrae.org/montreal

Chicago Meeting - January 21-25, 2012

• Theme: The Impact of HVAC&R on our Daily Lives
• Full Technical Papers & Conf. Papers abstracts are due April, 18,2011
• Chicago Seminar and Forum Proposal accepted starting June 3, 2011
• Conference Website: www.ashrae.org/chicago

San Antonio Meeting - June 23-28, 2012

• Theme: Program themes have been eliminated starting with this conference
• Full Technical Papers & Conf. Paper abstracts are due TBD
• San Antonio Seminar and Forum Proposals are due TBD
• Conference Website: TBD

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G 15. Upcoming Forums, Workshops and Conferences
• Next -Generation, Low Global Warming Potential (GWP) Refrigerants Forum, this
Tuesday, February 1, 2011,8:00-9:30 am, Las Vegas Convention Center, Room N256
- This forum is not listed in the ASH RAE meeting program.

• Energy Modeling: Tools for Designing High Performance Buildings, April 4-6 2011,
Atlanta, GA: http://www.ashrae.org/energymodeling

• 10th lEA Heat Pump Conference 2011, May 16-19 2011, Tokyo, Japan,
www.hpc2011.org

• XIV European Conference, Part 2: Latest Technologies in Renewable Energy and

Applications in Heating & Cooling, June 10-11,2011, Milan, Italy-
http://www.EUenergycentre.org

• ECOS 2011 (24th Inti Conference on Efficiency, Cost, Organization, Simulation &
Environmental Impact of Energy Systems), July 4-7,2011, Novi Sad, Serbia -
http://www.ecos2011.com

~~order Entry/Exit Requirements for 2011 Annual Meeting in Montreal, Canada

~ntry/Exit requirements for Canada have changed since the 2006 Annual meeting in
Quebec City, Canada. Please encourage all members for your TCITG or TRG that may
attend the next Society meeting to check now the latest entry/exit requirements for
Canada using the following link and to make sure their passport or other entry paperwork
is up-to-date with these new requirements:
http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cispatw/cis/cis1082.html#entry requirements

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Handbook Sub-committee meeting 1/30/11

Attendees:

Mark Hegberg
Mike McDermott
Scott Fisher
Bob Walker
Tricia M. Bruenn
William A. Schulte, PE RS&H
Rex Scare
Ken Luther
Don Bahnfleth
Julia Keen
Niels Bidstrup
Ramez Afify
Steve Treddnick
Larry Konopacz
Greg Towsley
Peter Thompsen
Edward Tsui

Forrest Yount – Liaison

Schedule Due Date Responsibility

Ch No Short Title

10 Steam 3/14/11 R. Scare

12 Hydronic Htg & Cooling 3/28/11 M. Hegberg

13 Condenser Water Sys. 4/11/11 S. Tredinnick

14 Med./High-Temp. Water Htg 4/25/11 D. Bahnfleth

31 Boilers 05/9/11 E. Lizardos

43 Centrif. Pumps 5/16/11 N. Bidstrup

27 Unit Ventilators 5/23/11 Sent to 5.3

35 Hydronic Heat Dist. (Radiators) 6/6/11 D/M Hegberg

45 Pipes, Tubes, Fittings (Will roll into Fund 36) 6/13/11 M. Hegberg

46 Valves 6/20/11 M. Hegberg

47 Heat Exchangers 7/4/11 J. Glunt

Some Responsibilities have changed – 2/1/11.

Unit Ventilators – Schires (Chapter 27)

Hydronic Heat – Stille (Chapter 35)
Pipes, Tubes, Fittings – Fisher (Chapter 45)

Notes:

1) See above for due dates.

2) Rules of Submission
3) After complete and voted on by committee, complete check-list. Send each chapter separately
to Forrest Yount ([email protected]) and CC Mark Owen ([email protected]) and
Heather Kennedy ([email protected]).
a. Send the IP and SI versions if available or combined if it is on Handbook Central this
way.
b. Send separate files for the charts/graphs
c. Ask for permissions from any copyrighted material- even if not changed.
d. Note on checklist if another chapter is referenced so that the editorial staff sees this. The
chapter numbers may change.

4) There is no due date for electronic content – submit after committee vote.
 TC 6.1 2012 Systems Handbook Closeout Schedule
January February March April May June July
10 Steam 3/14 Complete "-
,
Scare
12 Hydronic Htg & Cooling 3/28 Re-type example "-,
Hegberg
13
Tredinnick
Condenser Water Systems 4/11 Complete
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14 Med'/High-Temp. Water Htg. 4/25 Complete
"-,
Bahnfleth
31
Lizardos
Boilers
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5/9 Complete ~
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43 Centrifugal Pumps 5/16 Complete

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Bidstru p -'
27 Unit Ventilators 5/23 New Reviewer
Schires
"-,
35 Hydronic Heat Dist. 6/6 New Reviewer
"'-
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Stille
45 Pipes, Tubes, Fittings 6/13 Complete
Fisher
"-,
46 Valves 6/20 Add FCI70
"-,
Hegberg
47 Heat Exchangers 7/4 Complete "I

Glunt ~

Mark Hegberg: [email protected]

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TC 6.1 Chilled Water Plant !>UD- •...., ,,~ ittee Las Vegas, NV Winter Meeting

Topic - New ASHRAE Chilled Water Plant Design Chapter for Systems Handbook

ACTIONS TO DA TE:

• 6/28/2010 - Prior to departing Albuquerque (before the main TC 6.1 meeting) Steve Tforwarded the
Table of Contents to TC 6.1 with the intention that the TC would approve via vote and then the final
Outline of the Table of Contents would be forwarded to Mike Owen and Rus Lindemann for direction on
how to proceed.
• Did not hear back until mid-October 2010 that the above probably did not occur. Mid-November
timefrome, discussion with Mark Hegberg resulted in decision that we should start the chapter and if
content is pertinent; it will be added into the Handbook in some fashion.
• Due to work obligations, Steve T has not progressed on this chapter. The intent is still there but troction
and progress was lost.
• District Cooling Design Guide is progress. Steve T is currently reviewing an 80 to 85% completed edition
that was received 1-27-11. There may be text within this guide that could be used in the chilled water
plant design chapter. Stay tuned.

The following is the proposed outline that was submitted in Albuquerque on June 27,2010. Some folks have
expressed interest in assisting with the effort and are noted in the outline.

Chapter Topic "Volunteer" or

responsible party
Scope and Purpose of Chapter
To create a chapter that walks the design engineer step by step through the
process of selecting and sizing equipment in a chiller plant. Identified size range is
between 200 and 2000 tons that could have single or multiple chillers mostly
focusing on water cooled plants.

Conceptual System Planning

Design Temperature Selection - existing, new ~ ~~~-t:t/JE
System Design Pressures and materials
Spatial Planning - where are things going, maintenance requirements, mono rail, (.~(~
over head crane rails, davits, etc.
Implications of Thermal Storage on spatial requirements or equipment
selection '
Plant layout - maintenance requirements, future requirements
Plant architectural issues
Acoustics, aesthetics, coordination with architect, fire walls and ratings,
louvers, roof penetrations, etc.
Load Definition - what is the max and the min - use ASHRAE HQ
Sizing for future requirements
Investigation into utilities and costs
Sizing Chillers per Load Profiles - peak day and annual
Early Procurement of Equipment?
Redundancy
Diversity

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 TC 6.1 Chilled Water Plant Sub-Committee LasVegas, NV Winter Meeting

ChapterTopic ''Volunteer'' or
responsibleparty
Chillers
Chiller Technologies - centrifugal, screw, absorption, etc. Research how this ~io~
interfaces with existing chapters on chiller technology (do we get into aircooled
chiller plants?)
Refrigerants - HFC, HCFC, Li-Br, ammonia, propane, etc. (ASHRAE Standard 34)
75~tNrlJvl f~L
Prime Drivers - electric, steam, engine, variable frequency drives
When to use and how to calculate the economics
Open Drive & Hermetic
Magnetic Oil-less Compressors drives
Chiller configuration - parallel, series, series-counterflow, piggyback, heat
recovery, templifiers, ground source heat rejection (heat pump), etc.
Accessories - marine water boxes, RTDs, VFDs, davits, etc.
Operational Limitations -low and high end conditions when varying flow

Evaporator and Condenser

Water temperatures and impact on system efficiencies
Tube Materials
Number of Passes

Heat Rejection
Air Cooled?
Water Cooled
Open Circuits
Cooling Towers
Surface Water - River water, lake water and Seawater
Reclaimed water
Closed Circuits
Ground water - wells
Air Cooled Radiators?
Refrigerant Circuits
Evaporative Condensers

Pump Selection
Configurations - manifolded pumps vs. individual chiller pumps Torben Nielsen
Pumping Schemes
Primary only
Variable Flow Primary
Primary Secondary (constant/variable)
Pump head
Voltage limitation (480V or 4160V)

Control Theories?
Complexities of larger chiller plants Tor,ben Niel~e~ .
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System Issues
Minimum Water Volume J(f M"G~ Aft PI
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Chapter Topic "Volunteer" or

responsible party
Plants with Multiple Chillers - pressure drops, start/stop
Low Delta T Syndrome impact on plant
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Free Cooling - parallel and series
Water Treatment and conservation
Filtration
Startup and Commissioning?
Long term operational and maintenance requirements

Codes, Standards and Guidelines regarding High Performance and Safety

Plant Efficiency
Minimum energy requirements per ASHRAE 90.1
Chillers, pumps, cooling towers, VFDs, controls, etc.
Heat reclamation
Guideline 22 Julia Keen
Standard 189 Ken LLrt+-w2y-
Chiller Testing - Factory and Field - ARt Standard 550/590 "-R~vC R-
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Plant Safety
Chiller Room Ventilation Standards (ASHRAE Standard 15)

Questions and Action List:

• Is the ASHRAf HQ load information available in eQuest or Trane Trace????
• Confirm overlap with other Chapters Tredinnick
• Recruit authors from vendors?

It is recognized that this may have overlap with existing handbook chapter materials. It is intended to use all
existing information as background references for this new chapter. A quick perusal of the Handbooks has
revealed the following Potential Overlapping Chapters:

2008 HVAC SYSTEMS & EQUIPMENT

Chapter 3 - Central Cooling and Heating (TC 9.1). Very broad brush chapter. This has some information on
primary variable flow and primary-secondary pumping systems and major equipment.

Chapter 11- District Energy (TC 6.2). A little overlap on pumping systems and plant layout.

Chapter 12- Hydronic Heating and Cooling System Design (TC 6.1). Will overlap with methods of design,
hydraulic components and pumping configurations, preliminary equipment layout. Perhaps just add it to this
chapter????

Chapter 38 - Condensers. Describes evaporative condensers and chiller condenser side.

Chapter 39 - Cooling Towers. Describes cooling tower types and applications including maintenance.

Chapter 42 - Liquid Chiller Systems (TC 8.1 & 8.2). Covers chiller types, refrigerants and controls.

Chapter 43 - Centrifugal Pumps (TC 6.1). Overlap on pumping configurations

January 30, 2011 Page 3

 Prposed TC6.1 Hydronic Steam Heating Equipment Systems Program Plan
Year 2012
Date June 25‐29 Jan 21‐25 June 23‐27
City Montreal Chicago San Antonio
Theme Net‐Zero Buildings High Performance Buildings TBD
Tracks www.ashreae.org/montreal/ www.ashrae.org/chicago/ www.ashare.org/sanantonio/
Refrigeration Energy Efficiency ‐ New Technologies and Applications ‐ Kelly Cramm
HVAC Systems Integrated Design
Net Zero  Specialized Applications ‐ Healthcare, Laboratories and Data Center
Applications & Fundementals Energy Modeling Applications
Professional Skills Installation, Operation & Maintenance of HVAC Systems
Eng Tools High Performance Buildings ‐ Mike McDermott
Commissioning HVAC & R Systems and Equipment HVAC & R Systems and Equipment
Alternative Technology Professional Skills Professional Skills
HVAC & R Fundamentals and Applications ‐ Julia Keen HVAC & R Fundamentals and Applications
Refrigeration Refrigeration

Technical Paper Paper:  September 17, 2010 Paper:  April 18, 2011

Title
Session 
Conference Paper Abstract: Oct. 9, 2011;  Paper: Jan. 9, 2011 Abstract: April 18, 2011; Paper:July 8, 2011 Abstract: Oct. 9, 2011;  Paper: Jan. 9, 2012 (Tentative)
Title   Anchor Force
Name   Scott Fisher
Abstract  (Accepted: Yes/No)
Paper
Session 
Title   A new Analysis of Pressure Indepent control Valves 
Name   Bob Walker
Abstract  (Accepted: Yes/No)
Paper
Session 
Title   Classic control valve selection for water systems
Name   Mark Hegberg
Abstract  (Accepted: Yes/No)
Paper
Session 
Seminar Proposal: Febuary 14, 2011 Proposal: August 12, 2011 Proposal: Febuary 14, 2012
Certification Programs ‐ Mark Neufcourt High Temperature Hot Water ‐ Ken Luther  Building Accessments of Hydronic Systems‐ Greg Townley
Boiler, Valve and Pump Selection ‐ Trica Bruenn Steam Systems ‐ Rex Scare and Bill Code Impact of ASHRAE Stds on Hydronic Design ‐ Julia Keen/Mike McDermott
High Temp Chilled Water and Low Temp Heat ‐ Mike McD

Forum Proposal: Febuary 14, 2011 Proposal: August 6, 2011 Proposal: Febuary 14, 2012

How Do ASHRAE Standards Impact Hydronic Design? ‐ Julia and Mike  Are steam heating systems  sustaniable or prehistoric? Bill Coad and Mike
Submittal Deadline

Future Topics Ideas:
 
RP1196 Software Development of Boilers
Vacuum Steam Systems 
Making the Case from Air to Hydronic HVAC Systems 
Adapting HighTemperature Heating Components with High Efficiency Low Temperature Heating Systems in Cold Climates
One Pipe Hydroninc Geothermal Heat Piping Systems 
Exploring The Energy Conservation Benifts of Combining Hydronic and Variable Flow Refrigerant Hvac Sytsems
Exploring Energy Conservation and IAQ benifts of a High Temperature Radiant Cooling Systems with Dedicated Outside Air and Geothermal   
Energy Efficiency and IAQ Retrofit Case Studies of Historic University Buildings served by Campus Central Heating and Cooling   
Eneregy Efficiency Retrofit Case Studies of Central Steam Heating Plants in Cold Climates
System Selection Design for Commercial, Industrial and Health Care Applications 
Part Load Performance of Chilled Water Coils
Will piping Insulation failures eliminate low Temp CHW?
What are the effects of valve leakage?
 LAS VEGAS MEETING MINUTES
PROGRAMS SUBCOMMITTEE
ASHRAE TC 6.1 “HYDRONICS AND STEAM HEATING EQUIPMENT AND SYSTEMS”

A. Meeting called to order at 2:15 pm, 31 Jan 2011 at Hilton Las Vegas Pavilion 11, by Mike McDermott

B. Members and Visitors in attendance

Name Position
1. Mike McDermott Programs Subcommittee Chair
2. Julia Keen Vice Chair
3. Rex Scare Web Master
4. Ken Luther Member
5. Niels Bidstrup Member
6. Scott Fisher Chair
7. Tricia M. Bruenn Member
8. Bob Walker Secretary
9. Rex Scare Web Master
10. Tom Cappellin Research Subcommittee Chair
11. Greg Towsley Member
12. Bill Coad Member
13. Dave Delaquila Visitor-Observer
14. Hooman Daneshmand Visitor-Observer
15. Ramez Afify Visitor-Observer

C. Current and future programs were discussed.

1. ASHRAE has revised and continues updating the process of applying for future programs. This
process was explained by Julia Keen who is currently serving on ASHRAE Conference and
Exposition (CEC) Committee.
2. Feedback from CEC on program submittal success
a. Connect with hot topic track and add WOW factor
b. Add more detail to abstract
c. Focus on our strength – Seminars for Practitioners
3. Programs are now classified in the following formats with typical sources of program:
a. Technical Papers – 30 pages - Academia
b. Conference Papers – 8 pages - Academia and Practitioners
c. Seminars – PowerPoint - Practitioners
d. Forums - Practitioners
4. For detailed information on how the above programs as to be assembled and submitted visit
ASHRAE’s web site for information and direction. See example Forum I submitted last night:
www./ashrae.org/montreal/
http://ashraem.confex.com/ashraem/s11/cfp.cgi
Title:
How will ASHRAE Standards affect Future Hydronic System Design?
Overview:
The purpose of this forum is to explore how the ASHRAE Standards 189.1 and 90.1 affect
hydronic system design. We seek input from HVAC designers to determine best practices
to meet the goals for the design of high performance green buildings. Early hot water
systems used very large pipes because it was thought this was necessary to ensure adequate
circulation and heat retention. We then moved to high temperature hot water and steam to
minimize pipe size and project costs. Do we go now back to low temperature hot water
systems with the larger pipe size? Have we hit an energy reduction plateau at 25 KBTU/sq
ft annually with our current technologies or can we go lower?
Technical Committee:
06.01 Hydronic and Steam Equipment and Systems
Expected Attendance:
50

Program Track:
HVAC Systems and Equipment
Program Level:
Intermediate
Program Type:
Forum
Length:
60
Special Request or Comment:
Please coordinate time slot with TC-6.1 committee meetings.

A. Chair
Bill Coad, P.E.
Coad Engineering Enterprises
St Louis, MO
Email: [email protected]

Member Grade(s):Presidential Fellow Life Member

Experience: William J. Coad, President of Coad Engineering Enterprises is a consulting

principal and past Chairman/CEO of The McClure Corporation (dba McClure Engineering
Associates). Mr. Coad was President of the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating, and Air
Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) in 2001-2002. He received his degree in Mechanical
Engineering from Washington University in 1957. Prior to forming Coad Engineering
Enterprises, Inc., he had been with McClure Engineering Associates, a Mechanical/Electrical
Consulting Firm, for 40 years (following five years as a design engineer, estimator, and
corporate officer of a mechanical contracting company). He is a registered professional engineer
in 38 states. He is a member of the Board of Directors of Mestek Corporation of Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania, Exergen Corporation of Watertown, Massachusetts, and the National Institute of
Building Sciences (NIBS) of Washington D.C. As an educator, Mr. Coad served as a Lecturer in
Mechanical Engineering for 12 years at Washington University in St. Louis. For 17 years he was
an Affiliate Professor at Washington University, teaching graduate courses in Mechanical
Engineering and serving as a thesis advisor in building environmental systems design. Mr. Coad
is a member of the Consulting Engineer's Council, the American Society of Mechanical
Engineers (ASME) and a Fellow in the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating, and Air
Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE). His positions in ASHRAE have included terms as President
(2001-2002), Vice President, Treasurer, and member of the Society's Board of Directors. He has
also served on numerous Technical Committees and Task Groups, on the Nominating
Committee, the Presidential Committee on Energy Resource Evaluation, Panel 12 Standard
90-75, Finance Committee, Energy Council, Technology Council, Members Council, Publishing
Council, Research & Technical Committee, Education Committee, and the Continuing Education
Committee. (Often, he has served as Chairman or Vice Chairman of the above committees and
councils). He served in all offices of the St. Louis Chapter of ASHRAE, (President, 1971-72).
Mr. Coad received the Society's Distinguished Service Award in 1980, the Crosby Field Award
for the best paper published by ASHRAE in 1985, the Louise & Bill Holladay Distinguished
Fellow Award in 1989, the award for Best Journal Article (1991), ASHRAE's highest award for
technical achievement, the F. Paul Anderson Award in 1996, the Exceptional Service Award in
2001, and the Andrew T. Boggs Service Award in 2002. Mr. Coad is an Honorary Member of Pi
Tau Sigma (Mechanical Engineering Honorary Society), a (1992) recipient of the Washington
University Alumni Achievement Award, and the (2001) recipient of the Donald Julius Groen
Prize of the British Institute of Mechanical Engineers (ImechE). He has published several
Symposium Papers and has authored numerous articles on Engineering Philosophy and Building
Environmental Systems (including, for 15 years, a monthly column entitled "Fundamentals to
Frontiers" in HPAC Engineering Magazine). William Coad authored "Energy Engineering and
Management for Building Systems," published by Van Nostrand Reinhold, and is a co-author of
"Principles of Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning" published by ASHRAE. He is a
member of the Editorial Advisory Board of HPAC Engineering Magazine He has served on the
St. Louis Professional Code Committee, and the Missouri State Building Code Steering
Committee. Mr. Coad has been Chairman of the Building Technology Advisory Committee to
the Missouri Energy Agency, a member of the Building and Grounds Committee of the
Washington University Board of Trustees, the Board of Directors of St. Elizabeth Academy in
St. Louis, and the Energy Conservation Committee of the American Consulting Engineer's
Council.

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5. The programs for Las Vegas are fully subscribed. TC 6.1”s future programs should be
concentrated on Montreal and beyond.

6. The program schedule for Montreal is as shown below:

June 25 – 29, 2011

Montreal, Quebec, Canada
www.ashrae.org/montreal

2011
Feb. 14 —Program Proposals Due
Feb. 21 — Conference Papers Accept/Reject Notifications
March 14 — Final Technical Papers Due
March 14 — Final Conference Papers Due
March 18 — Notifications of Program Accept/Reject Distributed
May 6 — Upload of PPTs Begin
June 6 — All Program PPTs Due Online
June 25 — Speaker’s Lounge Opens

January 28-February 1, 2011

Montreal, Quebec, Canada
www.ashrae.org/chicagohttp://www.ashrae.org/events/page/2650

2011
April 9 — Technical Papers Due for Review
April 9 — Conference Paper Abstracts Due
May 7 — Conference Paper Abstract Accept/Reject Notifications
June 4 — Web Site Opens for Seminar and Forum Proposals
Aug. 6 — Conference Papers Submitted for Review
Aug. 6 — Program Proposals Due
Sept. 3 — Conference Papers Accept/Reject Notifications
Sept. 17 — Notifications of Seminar and Forum Accept/Reject Distributed
Sept. 24 — Final Technical Papers Due
Sept. 24 — Final Conference Papers Due
Dec. 10 — Upload of PPTs Begin

2012
 Jan. 14 — All PPTs Due Online
Jan. 29 — Speaker’s Lounge Opens

7. Persons wishing to organize and submit program requests need to review ASHRAE web site
information and submit in accordance with the instructions provided. Once submitted, the
information should be sent to the Program Sub-chair for inclusion in future committee meeting
agendas.

D. General issues concerning program activities and concerns were discussed

E. Adjournment of subcommittee at 4:15 pm.