Day 1 - Basic
Day 1 - Basic
DESA
-DIET
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-ALCOHOL
Occupation DVLA ICE Effects of symptoms
ICE – don’t do it in the beginning! It is the last thing, but before physical
examination
Ask the idea matching what the patient thinks; don’t answer immediately
because we have to do physical exam first. Must do this.
Idea – what do you think is going on?
Concern – is there anything that worry you?
Expectation – is there anything particularly that you are hoping for
us to do today?
Effects of symptoms
For long term SS – is there anything you have done about this?
How is this affecting your: sleep, work, relationship, sexual life?
Examination – I would like to do some examinations on you that includes
your blood pressure, temperature, your pulse, and breathing rate as
well as oxygen level.
Head to toe examination will NOT work specify, tummy examination, back
passage examination, I would like to check your hearing, listening to your lung
sound, body mass index
EXPLAIN the findings to the patient I would like to check your blood pressure
standing and lying. Mention specifically what exam you want (in layman term).
Doing blood test – after physical exam and diagnosis especially in GP, ecg, urine
dipstick, pregnancy test – can be done by ourselves. CXR, thyroid profile,
electrolyte in the management
Diagnosis in PLAB 2 – provisional diagnosis, no findings yet usually it is a clinical
diagnosis.
Example: hyponatremia scenario – test results already there.
Management: Diagnosis, explain something to the patient (definition) for
example, why we cannot issue a sick note, or procedure, formulating a
management plan.
Diagnosis
Thank you for giving me this information. Tell – Ask – Explain – Check
- Tell: just tell the name of the diagnosis
- Ask: have you heard about it?
- Explain 3 sentences (give the definition); Let me explain to you: what is
the problem? What is happening there? What are the risk factors.
- Check: do you understand? Is it clear? Are you able to follow me?
- Don’t explain the symptoms when you tell the diagnosis but tell the risk
factors
Explain what Parkinson is but no need to justify why it is Parkinson.
From what you’ve told me and from what we’ve done, it seems like you have a
condition named obstructive sleep apnea.
Avoid: how does that sounds to you? Are you getting my point? – casual
Formulate management plan – let me explain what WE are going to do for
you
1. What type of condition? It will settle on its own or emergency (call 999)
2. Where is the patient is going next – ADMISSION
3. What need to be done to confirm – investigations (how this condition is
diagnosed); don’t waste resources
4. Main medication
5. Other medication
6. Advice to patient (good and bad) – safety netting (when we leave px on
their own)
7. Follow up – when are you going to see me? PMR – monthly follow up; how
long the treatment will be.
8. Leaflet – always (just say: you’ll provide some information for you to read
in order to get to know this conditions/complications/treatment in a better
way).
a. Cannot say just go to the specialist and they will treat you
b. Must explain what the specialist will do for you and treatment for
you
c. Refer to memory clinic, seizure clinic, GUM clinic, etc. When you go
there, you will get tested for …. You will get medication for …. You
will also get support from multidisciplinary team consisting of …..
d. We advise you not to ….
When answering questions, start with “Well, …” it is highly unlikely; it does not
look like … - don’t jump and say no.
I don’t know change to I’m not really sure. Unfortunately, it is now very clear.
I’m afraid it is difficult to say
Yes that should be okay.
No it is highly unlikely, it doesn’t look like, we are not really sure.
We would like to offer you some medications. We would like run some tests. Let
me explain to you what are we going to do now.