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INTRO AND GUIDE TO

REPTIME WITH UPDATED LINKS

EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW TO GET STARTED

Updated September 13, 2024

Welcome to Reptime! It’s a great place to hopefully

help you find what you’re looking for. There’s a lot of
information and it all depends on how far down the
rabbit hole you wanna go, but you can get anything
from the crappy DHGate/AliExpress $30 fakes, all the
way to a top tier replica for $350-900. You can even go
further than how it came to you from China by
“frankening” the piece – adding genuine and other
modded components to help the watch achieve a look
‘even closer to gen’.

There are a few terms to understand in order to begin

here. I don’t endorse them, sometimes I use them, but
they are used frequently:

Rep: Replica
Gen: Genuine (referring to a genuine watch)
QC: quality check – in reference to photos of
watches
W2C/WTC: Where to cop… aka where did you get
that? Or Link?
TD: Trusted Dealer (I’ll get more into that later)
ZF, Noob, V6F, BP, MK, ARF, JF, etc: some of the
top factories (I’ll also get more into that later)
2xAR xtal: a sapphire crystal coated with 2 layers
of anti-reflective coating
GL and RL - Green and Red light, referring to QC
pictures being OK to accept or not.

Now for the ‘tiers’ of reps:

Bottom Tier

If you want cheap stuff, no or bad QC, but want to pay

$200 or less, go to or:

DHGate

AliExpress

Taobao

I won’t tell you what to search or how to find it there. I

don’t use it, the watches there barely resemble the
watches they are trying to represent. It’s just not worth
it unless you want to try it on a shoestring budget (my
own opinion)

Mid Tier: Guide to budget tier factories are here -

these are usually pretty good but lack fine
details/higher quality materials of the higher tier
factories:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/ydj6h7/g
uide_best_budget_midtier_replicas_250400/

High Tier: See the guide for 'who makes the best' for
most popular watch models here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/pxdzn9/g
uide_who_makes_the_best_watch_model_factory/

Step by Step Guide for Ordering a

Watch

1. Choosing a Trusted Dealer (TD)

(list with links below)
Here are the TD's for RWI, Repgeek and RWG Do not
under any circumstances Google a TD, use the forum
links provided only! Note that any TD can get any
watch if it is still being produced! So, if you see a
watch on Intimes website and not elsewhere, it doesn't
mean you are restricted to just buying from that
website. Simply ask your chosen TD to get the watch,
you can even send them the link or screen shot if the
genuine watch! Use TD's websites as a catalogue and
a way of window shopping. Overall they are not
regularly updated and any TD can source just about
any watch if sent a picture of what you require.

Reptime does not have TD's!! If they have a trusted

dealer flair here, then they are a trusted dealer on
one of the forums linked above. To have any recourse
with any TD you will need to join the forum before you
purchase a watch. There is no point in posting a tirade
about it here on you'll just get roasted and probably
deleted.

TD's do not make the watches! They are simply the

middle men between you and the Factory (VSF for
example). Mostly, the TD's do not have physical
contact with the factories or watches, they simply
order them, then a courier will drop off a bulk order to
them. Then the TD will issue QC photos.

Please do not think they walk to the factory to buy your

watch and collect it, it's not how it goes. This is also
how delays in QC's happen, as a TD could be waiting
for a batch of a certain watch to be made, thus,
delaying your QC. Some TD's will have 24 hour QC
stock on hand, which you can ask for a list of. Usually
however this is previously RL stock or something they
have bought in bulk to offer as discounted.

Trusted dealers have earned their way to that status –

trusted – because they have a large customer base and
are willing to go through investigations through the
forums that have a tough and active moderation team
(RWI, RWG, etc) if a sale goes awry. Trusted dealers
get not a ton of dough from your sale, but they almost
all offer a customs guarantee - you will receive a
replacement watch for free if customs seizes it. Be nice
and remember that they are doing work for you and
should be compensated for that time.

2. Choosing Your Watch and

Factory.
A mid to high tier watch is built by a specific factory.
Examples will be: CF, VSF, ZF, BP, GMF, EWF to name
a few. There are 3 main guides for understanding the
factories:

To view who makes the best watch for each model by

general consensus look Here.

There is also a guide if you're on a lower budget Here.

Then there is the ladies watch guide Here.

There are also watches that are classed as Not Worth

Buying In Gen (NWBIG) Here is the link.

All reps have tells. There is no perfect rep, so

RESEARCH first by using the links I've provided above
or the search bar (aka Serge Barr) and decide on which
flaws you can live with.

3. Pulling The Trigger.

Now that you have decided on the watch you want, it's
time to buy. There are typically three ways to buy. I will
list in the order I believe to be the easiest, and how to
go about it. I will also give a mock example where
applicable. Be aware it is always common practice to
check the factory still exists and are still making the
watch you require. This to a TD is referred to as "In
Stock"

Option1. Whatsapp.

Find the correct Whatsapp number for your chosen TD.

(The TD links have already been listed in section 1).
Message the TD:

(You) Hi, can you source me a (VSF 116610LN) please,

are they in stock at the factory still? How long for QC
and how much ? Thanks.

Now, there are such things as time zones, so if you

don't hear back from the TD in ten mins or so, consider
they may be sound asleep. Allow anything up to 12
hours for a reply. Some Td's have massive inbox
queues and it could take 24 hours to receive a reply
during busy times. The Td will then reply for example:

(TD) Hi, $568 free shipping. In stock 3 day QC.

It's as easy as that, next you will need to issue payment

(see section 4) and give your Name and Postal
address. The TD may require an email address to send
your QC link to, Some send the QC and deal solely on
whatsapp.

Option 2. Purchasing via TD's website.

It is imperative you email the TD before you go this

route to check the watch is still being produced. A
lot of watches on websites are no longer available
as they barely maintain their websites by removing
old stock. It is also a great way of taking your
money and getting you to switch to something else.

You'll have to make an account on the website and/or

fill out your details, then, once you have checked out,
the TD will contact you for payment (see Section 4). Do
not upload any credit/debit card details if asked. Email
is a slow process and it could take 3 days to receive
payment details. Some Td's only use email, so this is
one of the pitfalls of going this route, especially if you
encounter a problem once you receive the watch. QC
will likely take longer and in general be a slower
process than whatsapp. You Have Been Warned!

Option 3. Direct Email/DM via forum.

Some TD's (Sead from supermirrors for example) are

only contactable this way. They will list their current
stock on their forum page. You will then have to DM or
Email them your requirements the same way as
mentioned in option 1. This is another reasonably slow
process.

You can simply send a photo of a watch you are after to

a TD and they will tell you if it can be sourced.

4. Payment
Most TD's will help guide you through the payment
process. Here are some of the ways you can pay.

1. Wise or Western Union

Easiest way?: install the respective apps or visit the

official website, create an account and enter the details
provided by the TD. Then issue your payment. Best
exchange rate is via Wise and it is easy to use. You can
even link the TD's confirmed payment via whatsapp
with Wise. Guides on how to use both are on their
respe websites.

2. Paypal F&F

Some, if not most will require previous transaction

history before they dabble in Paypal with you. Some
like Mirotime and Geektime usually accept payments
this way first off.

3. Crypto

Obviously if you pay this way you'll be sending your

crypto to a TD's wallet. You'll probably have knowledge
on how to use wallets etc. Be sure to record/track the
transaction via the blockchain.

4. Credit/Debit card

I would advise against paying via credit/debit card

UNLESS you are using a one time use created card
number. Many CC company's will provide this.
Remember you are dealing in a counterfeit organization
ran predominantly (in the eyes of the law) by criminals.
Your TD may be Trusted but the third party they use to
take payment may not be. Don't risk being cloned or
charged for other fee's.

5. QC (Quality Control).
QC photos can take anything from a matter of hours to
weeks. It's all dependent on the watch you bought and
if the factory are producing batches. Sometime a TD
will have stock in hand. Raids, public holidays and
batch times can effect the waiting times. If you haven't
received QC within 2 weeks ask your TD for an update.
It's down to your resolve on if you want to swap to an
available watch or require a refund.

Once QC photos are received you should generally get

good help over at if you follow the template used there.
I would advise to look up previous posts of the watch
you ordered to grasp the common QC issues that can
arise. Do not be lazy and write "looks good" for
everything..

6. Shipping.
It can take anything from a week to 2 months to receive
a package depending on where you are on the planet.
17Track is a good app to use for keeping an eye on
your parcel. Most TD's have a customs seizure
warranty and will replace any watch taken by customs.
If this happens, do not reply to the letter you receive
and contact your TD. The consensus is just wait it out,
it will get there eventually.

7. Receipt of Package/Watch.

Nobody has written a guide from what I can see but

there are 3 main things I will list here.

1. Remember you have bought a rep made in a low

wage factory. The finish may have sharp edges
and will need the bracelet adjusting. Buy a decent
bracelet removal tool and screwdriver to undo the
bracelet screws! Do this the day after you order
your watch! There is nothing worse than making a
mess of them with some cheap garbage you got
from an xmas cracker.
2. Movement. Now, although replica movements
have improved vastly in the past few years, you
cannot expect it to be running at +/- 2 secs a day
accuracy unless it has been Serviced and properly
regulated! Running a non serviced replica is fine,
but if its running +30secs a day fast or slow when
you receive it, then it's actually acceptable. Yes,
your Seiko or homage shitter may be more
accurate, but it was assembled in much cleaner
conditions, correctly oiled, and assembled in a
gen watch factory. If you want it reliable and to
last a good length of time is where to go. Or go to
RWI etc, to get a service done, this will prolong
the life of your replica.When setting dates,
forward your hour hands first, so the date
changes, then move to 6 o'clock. Now change
your date. Automatic watches can be hand
wound, so google "how to hand wind an
automatic watch"
3. Water Resistance. Assume your watch is not water
resistant, and get it tested. It is your choice if you
want to ride bareback into the waters.

Do check the case back for tightness and the crown is

screwed in tightly. If it fills with water, or condensates,
just vision me saying, "It's over, I have the high
ground". Or you can build you own tester. here.

Thank you to u/Obi-rep-Kenobi for his great guide on

the ordering process - much of this is from him.

Congratulations, you did it!

Other notes:

1. Enjoy the watch. Get a $20 watch service kit from

Amazon or whatever and resize the bracelet.
2. DON’T TAKE IT TO A JEWELER AND PRETEND
IT’S THE REAL THING. They will lie to your face
and make you think they think it's real because its
good customer service to make people feel good
about themselves. They are trained to do that.
Just some practical advice - take it or leave it -
don't tell your friends and loved ones that these
are the real thing. It's better to be honest. If you
want to know the full reason, PM me, I'm happy to
share why honesty is important.
3. What if your watch is broken upon arrival? You
MUST make a log in on the forums where the
dealer is a trusted dealer, and post enough there
in order to log a ticket to file a dispute. They will
not help you if you create an account after your
issue arises with a TD. It is their rules.

Trusted dealer websites (these are

the TDs from the forums -
RepTime has no official Trusted
Dealers!)
The website addresses change frequently due to the
original companies wanting them taken down for
understandable reasons. The websites are usually
down for a night then back on a different domain the
next day – they change probably 2-3 times per year. If
you want an updated list (in case these domains get
seized and I haven’t updated the post), go to the
forums and see if they put a new one up. There are
more than these TDs on the forums, too, this is not an
exhaustive list. Also please note, has no official Trusted
Dealers, this is just a list I made to help others know
some of the major ones out there that are vetted by the
bigger forums. If you need help with any of the trusted
dealers, you MUST be a member of the forum where
they are listed as a TD in order to receive support. DO
NOT GOOGLE TD WEBSITES, THERE ARE KNOWN
SCAMMERS.

Links edited to avoid filtering. UPDATED July 29, 2024:

https://andiotwatches.com/

https://chazingtime.io/

https://ctime.io/ Also posts here

https://drtime.io - and

https://www.dealerclocks.io/

https://www.DukeReps.com - on reddit as well

https://geektime.watch TD with Excellent service, posts

frequently here

https://s.wsxc.cn/TJUCP1 Hontwatch; here on reddit as

well, responsive on whatsapp -

Instagram: Inlandandinhand - US Based TD from RWI

has whatsapp as well

https://intime06.co/

https://jtime.io TD with excellent service

u/lykanjt - US based trusted dealer. Message on reddit

or whatsapp

https://mirotimewatch.com TD with excellent service,

posts frequently here

http://theonewatches.ws also has a reddit account

https://puretimewatch88.io/ Been around for a long

time u/puretimewatches

http://trustytime88.io/ has videos of nearly every

watch, posts here occasionally

There are loads of reviews for TDs and you should

do your homework both here and on the forums
before buying!

Full list here (must be a member to see)

RWI: https://forum.replica-watch.info/forums/trusted-
rep-dealers.147/

RWG: https://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/60-
rwgs-trusted-dealers/

RepGeek: https://www.repgeek.com/trusted-watch-
dealers/

Forums

https://www.replica-watch.info/ (the most popular)

http://www.rwg.bz/board/

http://www.repgeek.com/index.php

Please go to these and get a log in and check out the

topics. They are insightful, and incredibly informative.
There’s even a member sales section there too if you
have enough posts.

Factories
There are certain popular factories to choose from and
not all ‘good’ factories are the popular ones. Some of
the smaller factories specialize in one or two watches
but they are GOOD. The factories in total release
probably 2-10 new models every week (granted lots
are shitty). The way factories work, from what I’ve read,
is that someone who wants to make a watch will order
dials from a dial plant, cases from a manufacturer who
specializes in case making, etc, and then receive
‘proofs’. Once they approve of the proofs, they will then
order batches of 100-500 and manually assemble the
pieces (dial, case, hands, date disc, movements,
straps, buckles, etc). This is not easy stuff and usually
they know what they are doing. When a watch is out of
stock, it can be out of stock forever.

Major Factories (detail received from many postings

around the internet, sometimes shamelessly
copy/pasted):

ZF: High quality factory for most non-Rolex

watches. Overall a good factory with solid
releases. Just starting to branch into AP and RM,
and they are pretty good.
Noob / N Factory: NOW CLOSED :( Noob factory
is probably the most famous factory among
others, they started a very long time ago and
really developing their piece of replica. Noob
makes a decent submariner, but have a great
Daytona with clone movement, and a good pepsi
insert. Besides Rolex, Noob also developing some
brands like some Planet Ocean Omega, Blancpain,
some Audemars Piguet models, and some Panerai
model. Recently (5/12/21) Noob was hit very hard
in a raid so their models are on hold for ~6 months
(rumor on timeline).
VSF/V6F/XF/HBB/KW: re-opened. All fall under a
common parent company, but VSF specializes in
Omega and Rolex super-reps and Panerai, V6F
does quite a bit of projects (though the name isn't
used much nowadays) and XF focuses on
Audemars Piguet but recently ventured into
Vacheron Constantin. HBB does Roger Dubuis.
ARF/JF: JF is the brand name of AP reps. High
quality, great detail, though ZF is showing them a
run for their money these days. JF also makes
middle-high tier Rolex watches among others.
ARF is a division that focuses on high quality Rolex
releases that focus on finishing. Rumor that JF is
closing.
JVS: Newer factory as of 2021, takes inspiration
from VSF and aims to release high quality Rolex
releases.
ZZF/Clean: Quality releases recently for Rolex.
Rebranded to Clean factory. Be aware of fake
PPF: Supposedly family of ZF, but focused on
Patek. Has the best current Nautilus
BP/GMF: BP is one of the OG rep factories. Has
reps of most brands and models, and are at an
affordable price. GMF seems to be a higher end
brand focusing on finish, but sourcing from similar
places.
MK/MKS: Focuses on IWC, Patek and Omega
releases, though they have branched into other
brands too.
TF: Specializes in tourbillons (hence "T" F), but
most are 42mm and kind of thick.
GF: Originally started focusing on German
watches ("G"F), but have branched into many
other Swiss brands like JLC and Cartier. Creates
'copy cat' models for a bit cheaper, and
sometimes surprises with improved details
FK: Makes quite a few reps, most are not very
good or just barely miss the mark for one specific
reason. However, their Breguet 5177 v3 watch is
superb!!! So do not underestimate any release of
theirs.
R Factory: Rolex
YLF: Connected to ZF, focuses on IWC
VRF: Specialized in the Rolex arena with an
excellent sub, excellent new VR3135 movement,
and gold wrapped subs too.
OMF: Focuses on middle tier quality and prices,
but recently have high quality Omega releases
PF: Revolutionized the Nautilus market with the
first thin Nautilus. However, they were recently
outdone by PPF and 3K. Focused on Patek, but
have other releases.
3K/BTF: clone Patek movement releases and
excellent Daytona reps.
JJF: Focused on Vacheron and Patek releases,
came out with the great Overseas rep. Rumor is
they shut down though.

Who makes the best Rolex sub?

My opinion only, there are many different opinions out
there. As of February 16, 2023.

1. VSF (116610 and 126610)

2. Clean (116610 and 126610)
3. ZF (116610 and 126610)

Gold plating, wrap, and diamonds

Gold plating is getting better, but it seems to be a
mixture of copper and some other materials that give
the finish and coloring of gold. There is a tiny bit of
gold in there though. If you get a scratch, don’t buff it
out, just live with it. A scuff will show the stainless steel
behind it if you get a significant enough ding. However,
I’ve owned 4-5 rose gold plated watches and haven’t
had issues with a single one and I don’t treat my
watches too nicely.

Gold wrapping is more expensive but also much more

thick. It will take a serious ding and still show gold. It
has more gold % in it. You can buff it lightly with no
issue.

Diamonds in a haute horology piece is typically done

with a fine gemstone and perfectly placed using a
gemsetting technique that isn’t done in the same
manner as a replica would be done. If you need or want
the look, then do it. Just know the stones are probably
CZ, and will fall out easily, and will be inconsistently
placed – which gives a poor brilliance when looking at
it.

Movements: wrote a great summary of the different

types of movements out there (non-comprehensive):
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/c889yu/
movements_found_in_replica_watches/

MOVEMENT GUIDES:
Rolex edition:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/wxu9vm/
beginners_guide_to_the_clone_movements_found_in/

AP, Patek, and RM edition:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/wyi6vh/b
eginners_guide_to_the_clone_movements_found_in/

BRAND GUIDES:
A fantastic guide on the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak
replicas by :
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/jk9sr0/ult
imate_ap_royal_oak_buying_guide/

Rolex Submariner guides:

1. https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-
tudor-replicas/7807136-review-of-zzf-new-sub-
116610-ln-and-comparison-vs-gen-arf-noob-
and-nail-part-i
2. https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-
tudor-replicas/8462580-zzf-submariner-v2-ln-
vs-gen-pictorial-review

Rolex vintage 1680 Custom build guide:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/mmcfon/
guide_so_you_want_to_build_a_1680/

All brands:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/pxdzn9/g
uide_who_makes_the_best_watch_model_factory/

On a Budget? See the best $250-$400 replicas:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/ydj6h7/g
uide_best_budget_midtier_replicas_250400/

Ladies Watch Guide:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/w8yzhk/l
adies_watch_guide_who_makes_the_best/

Guide to known clasp codes for Rolex:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/p3iuaq/g
uide_known_rep_claspbraceletsel_codes_from_rwi/

SHITPOST FRIDAY (SPF): Memes are absolutely

encouraged and a fun part of our community. In an
effort to help focus discussion, please post your
memes and funny images on Fridays. Use the Shitpost
Friday flair!

That about does it. Give an upvote, or don’t. If you

think I should add a section, let me know.

TL;DR:
BUY FROM A TRUSTED DEALER LISTED ABOVE. THEY
BUY FROM FACTORIES WITH ABBREVIATED NAMES,
LISTED ABOVE.

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Nakagura775 • hace 2 a •

Can this be a sticky at the top of the forum. First

post at all times. Maybe a link when you post
“have you read the guide?”

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MajorWilliams OP • hace 2 a •

Done both of these things :)

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Qomplete • hace 1 a • Editado hace 4 m •

Here's a much larger and easier to use option,

including these guides.

https://repsguide.com/guide-
category/watches/

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solex118 • hace 2 a •

Needs some sort of neon sign for the noobs

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Theonewatches • hace 2 a •

A detailed guide that is helpful to all our friends

and of course a time saver for us TDs in the
process of talking to our friends, We hope that all
our friends will enjoy Reptime with greater ease.

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