Do Doctors Ned
Training?
Dr. Shad Salim Akhtar
MBBS, MD, MRCP, FRCP (UK), FACP(USA), Member UICC
Fellows
Consultant Medical Oncologist
Medical Director
Quality of care
• >500 pages published daily in English
language
• Guidelines developed for most of the
common conditions
• Protocols created for the management of
many acute and chronic conditions
• How and Why should a doctor know
all this?
Why do we need to train
doctors?
• Quality of care implementation
–Standard care
–Guidelines
–Audit
–Outcome measures etc..
• Need a change of behavior
Factors affecting doctors’ behavior
• Educational
• Personal
• Patient based
• Economic
• Environment
Cantellon P et al: BMJ 1999;318;1276-1279
How can we change the
educational aspect?
• External audit
• Punitive actions
• Or may be better is
•CME/CPD
CME - Definition
•Education after
certification and
licensure
Davis D et al. BMJ 2003; 327:33
CME or CPD
• Lifelong learning process
• Develop skills needed which include
– Education
– Management
– Training
– IT
– Audit
– Communication
– Team building
– Learner centered and self directed
Editorial BMJ 2000; 320:393
Saudi council for health specialization recertification
needs collection of CME hours
Reasons for Information Seeking
• Varies from stage to stage
• Complex changes in practice
• Specific patient problem
• Higher qualifications
• Higher remuneration
• Peer challenge
Journal of Med Internet Res 2003; 5:e20
Why Do Physicians Learn?
• Revalidation
• Recertification
• Ego
• Juniors ask questions
• Patients’ demands (internet)
• Pharmaceutical agencies
Shannon S. The Lancet 2003; 361:266
Why CME BMJ August 2001
1160 7285
1328 9899
1264 11297
1354 8858
0 5000 10000 15000
1420
1421
1422
1423
Major Minor
1241423
1141422
1171421
1211420
Code Yellow/Year
KFSH Trauma Care-Load
Trauma care how could we
improve it?
• A specific training course for all those
involved in
– KFSH initially and then
– Al-Qassim region as a whole
ATLS
•Justifies the need for
Advanced Trauma Life
Support Courses and
certification of concerned
physicians at KFSH
Research states that
physicians have 3 to 5 clinical
questions per day that remain
unanswered.
The answers are out there,
…..
Changing Practice
• Physicians becoming aware of a gap in
knowledge or skill
• Learning changes the practice not
teaching
Shannon S The Lancet 2003; 361:618
Variation in Support
New Equipments Added
• Radiological department
– Dexa
– Angio suite
– Sophisticated ultrasound
• Blood bank
– Aphareis
• OR
– Laparoscopic towers
• Laboratory
– PCR
– Immunocytochemistry
Physicians or allied staff trained
• Apharesis
– Cob spectra
• Immunocytochemistry
• Angiography
– Machine idle for 1 yr now
– One of our radiologists on his way
We are independent now
KFSH Workload-Number of Pts Seen
0
20000
40000
60000
80000
100000
120000
140000
160000
180000
1412 1415 1418 1421 1422 1423 1424
ER
OPD
SS Akhtar Data from Statistics Dept
KFSH Workload - Referrals In
0
100
200
300
400
500
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1423
1422
Month
No of pts
Data from Therapeutics DeptSS Akhtar
KFSH Workload - Referrals Out -1422
106
89
5946
38
29
23
21
16
12
11 9 8 8 8 16
Neuro Surg Cardiology Oncology Ortho Gen Surg Ophthal
ENT Dental Vas Surg Nephro Gastro Pneumo
Neuro Urol Endo Misc
SS Akhtar Data from Therapeutics DeptTotal No=499
Intervention
• Training of doctors
– Consultants
– Residents
• Training of nurses
• Training of technicians
• Other ancillary staff
• Subsequently when funds became
available new staff recruited
~350 km
Referrals Out - 1422 - Indications
331
94
12
62
Lack of Facility Request 2nd Op Unkn
Neurosurgery 66
Radiotherapy 51
Angiography 49
Arthroscopy 29
EPS 18
Spinal Unit 16
YAG Laser 15
Isotope Scan 12
Irregular supply
PSCC
Staff Recruitment
• Direct from the outsource contractor
– Within the stipulated terms of contract
• MOH
– Selection team
• No on site accreditation system to judge
the need
– This is changing now
• From different countries with different
qualifications
• Variation in
– Level of training and qualifications
– Previous type of exposure
• Lack of knowledge of policy and
procedures
• Many lack in the technological know how
• Some lack the skills required
Staff characteristics
KFSH Doctors Status- MOH
SS Akhtar MD Office
43
46
35
26
40
38
41
45
30
24
2828
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
45
50
Consultants Residents
1418
1420
1422
1423
Training
Remuneration
Incentives
Job security
Quality!!!
Staff Turn Over-1998-2003
0 100 200 300 400 500
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003a
2003
Total New MOH New SHS EOC
SS Akhtar Nursing Office
Years of Experience at KFSH-
Nursing Staff
SS Akhtar Data from Nursing Office
142
112
59
28
No of Nurses
>=10 yrs
6-9 yrs
1-5 yrs
<=1 yr
<=1 year
Incentives
Stagnation
In job training
Salaries
Resources-Staff Contractor MOH
• Consultants 58 38
• Specialists 13 57
• Residents 40 69
Our Production
• More than twenty consultants working in
our hospital or the region
• More than 70% specialists locally trained
graduates
• About 30 residents enrolled in national and
international postgraduate programs
• More than twenty original articles published
from our institution
Postgraduate Programs
• Internship
• Accredited for postgraduate training
– Saudi board
– Arab board
– Royal college of physicians
– Royal college of surgeons
– College of physicians and surgeons of Pakistan
• Publications by the faculty
Academic Activities-Hospital Based
• Intensive courses
– ACLS
– ATLS
– FCCS
– Review course with RCP Edinburgh
• Training courses/workshops
– Suturing technique
– Conscious sedation
– Bronchial asthma management
– Critical care workshop
Educational Activities 1425
11 27
41
744
108
11
Club meetings Courses Grand rounds
Lectures out Symposia Telemedicine
Workshops
Academic atmosphere-Impact
Paramedical staff Nursing staff
Consultant
Resident Specialist
External teams
Quality of care improvement
What does all this need
• Financial resources
– Remuneration for teaching activities
– Remuneration for acquiring a skill
• Library
– Books
– Journals
• Other teaching aids
– Mannequins
– Skill labs
• Internet

Doctors training in King Fahd Specialist Hospital

  • 1.
    Do Doctors Ned Training? Dr.Shad Salim Akhtar MBBS, MD, MRCP, FRCP (UK), FACP(USA), Member UICC Fellows Consultant Medical Oncologist Medical Director
  • 2.
    Quality of care •>500 pages published daily in English language • Guidelines developed for most of the common conditions • Protocols created for the management of many acute and chronic conditions • How and Why should a doctor know all this?
  • 3.
    Why do weneed to train doctors? • Quality of care implementation –Standard care –Guidelines –Audit –Outcome measures etc.. • Need a change of behavior
  • 4.
    Factors affecting doctors’behavior • Educational • Personal • Patient based • Economic • Environment Cantellon P et al: BMJ 1999;318;1276-1279
  • 5.
    How can wechange the educational aspect? • External audit • Punitive actions • Or may be better is •CME/CPD
  • 6.
    CME - Definition •Educationafter certification and licensure Davis D et al. BMJ 2003; 327:33
  • 7.
    CME or CPD •Lifelong learning process • Develop skills needed which include – Education – Management – Training – IT – Audit – Communication – Team building – Learner centered and self directed Editorial BMJ 2000; 320:393
  • 8.
    Saudi council forhealth specialization recertification needs collection of CME hours
  • 9.
    Reasons for InformationSeeking • Varies from stage to stage • Complex changes in practice • Specific patient problem • Higher qualifications • Higher remuneration • Peer challenge Journal of Med Internet Res 2003; 5:e20
  • 10.
    Why Do PhysiciansLearn? • Revalidation • Recertification • Ego • Juniors ask questions • Patients’ demands (internet) • Pharmaceutical agencies Shannon S. The Lancet 2003; 361:266
  • 11.
    Why CME BMJAugust 2001
  • 13.
    1160 7285 1328 9899 126411297 1354 8858 0 5000 10000 15000 1420 1421 1422 1423 Major Minor 1241423 1141422 1171421 1211420 Code Yellow/Year KFSH Trauma Care-Load
  • 14.
    Trauma care howcould we improve it? • A specific training course for all those involved in – KFSH initially and then – Al-Qassim region as a whole
  • 15.
    ATLS •Justifies the needfor Advanced Trauma Life Support Courses and certification of concerned physicians at KFSH
  • 16.
    Research states that physicianshave 3 to 5 clinical questions per day that remain unanswered. The answers are out there, …..
  • 17.
    Changing Practice • Physiciansbecoming aware of a gap in knowledge or skill • Learning changes the practice not teaching Shannon S The Lancet 2003; 361:618
  • 18.
  • 19.
    New Equipments Added •Radiological department – Dexa – Angio suite – Sophisticated ultrasound • Blood bank – Aphareis • OR – Laparoscopic towers • Laboratory – PCR – Immunocytochemistry
  • 20.
    Physicians or alliedstaff trained • Apharesis – Cob spectra • Immunocytochemistry • Angiography – Machine idle for 1 yr now – One of our radiologists on his way We are independent now
  • 21.
    KFSH Workload-Number ofPts Seen 0 20000 40000 60000 80000 100000 120000 140000 160000 180000 1412 1415 1418 1421 1422 1423 1424 ER OPD SS Akhtar Data from Statistics Dept
  • 22.
    KFSH Workload -Referrals In 0 100 200 300 400 500 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1423 1422 Month No of pts Data from Therapeutics DeptSS Akhtar
  • 23.
    KFSH Workload -Referrals Out -1422 106 89 5946 38 29 23 21 16 12 11 9 8 8 8 16 Neuro Surg Cardiology Oncology Ortho Gen Surg Ophthal ENT Dental Vas Surg Nephro Gastro Pneumo Neuro Urol Endo Misc SS Akhtar Data from Therapeutics DeptTotal No=499
  • 24.
    Intervention • Training ofdoctors – Consultants – Residents • Training of nurses • Training of technicians • Other ancillary staff • Subsequently when funds became available new staff recruited
  • 25.
  • 26.
    Referrals Out -1422 - Indications 331 94 12 62 Lack of Facility Request 2nd Op Unkn Neurosurgery 66 Radiotherapy 51 Angiography 49 Arthroscopy 29 EPS 18 Spinal Unit 16 YAG Laser 15 Isotope Scan 12 Irregular supply PSCC
  • 27.
    Staff Recruitment • Directfrom the outsource contractor – Within the stipulated terms of contract • MOH – Selection team • No on site accreditation system to judge the need – This is changing now • From different countries with different qualifications
  • 28.
    • Variation in –Level of training and qualifications – Previous type of exposure • Lack of knowledge of policy and procedures • Many lack in the technological know how • Some lack the skills required Staff characteristics
  • 29.
    KFSH Doctors Status-MOH SS Akhtar MD Office 43 46 35 26 40 38 41 45 30 24 2828 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 Consultants Residents 1418 1420 1422 1423 Training Remuneration Incentives Job security Quality!!!
  • 30.
    Staff Turn Over-1998-2003 0100 200 300 400 500 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003a 2003 Total New MOH New SHS EOC SS Akhtar Nursing Office
  • 31.
    Years of Experienceat KFSH- Nursing Staff SS Akhtar Data from Nursing Office 142 112 59 28 No of Nurses >=10 yrs 6-9 yrs 1-5 yrs <=1 yr <=1 year Incentives Stagnation In job training Salaries
  • 32.
    Resources-Staff Contractor MOH •Consultants 58 38 • Specialists 13 57 • Residents 40 69
  • 33.
    Our Production • Morethan twenty consultants working in our hospital or the region • More than 70% specialists locally trained graduates • About 30 residents enrolled in national and international postgraduate programs • More than twenty original articles published from our institution
  • 34.
    Postgraduate Programs • Internship •Accredited for postgraduate training – Saudi board – Arab board – Royal college of physicians – Royal college of surgeons – College of physicians and surgeons of Pakistan • Publications by the faculty
  • 35.
    Academic Activities-Hospital Based •Intensive courses – ACLS – ATLS – FCCS – Review course with RCP Edinburgh • Training courses/workshops – Suturing technique – Conscious sedation – Bronchial asthma management – Critical care workshop
  • 36.
    Educational Activities 1425 1127 41 744 108 11 Club meetings Courses Grand rounds Lectures out Symposia Telemedicine Workshops
  • 37.
    Academic atmosphere-Impact Paramedical staffNursing staff Consultant Resident Specialist External teams Quality of care improvement
  • 38.
    What does allthis need • Financial resources – Remuneration for teaching activities – Remuneration for acquiring a skill • Library – Books – Journals • Other teaching aids – Mannequins – Skill labs • Internet