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DEPARTMENT 4 HON. BRENDA J. PENNY, JUDGE

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IN RE THE CONSERVATORSHIP OF:

NO. BP108870
BRITNEY JEAN SPEARS,

CONSERVATEE.

REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

10 WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 2021
11 APPEARANCES:
12 VIA L.A. COURT CONNECT
COURT-APPOINTED CO-COUNSEL LAW OFFICES OF
13 FOR BRITNEY JEAN SPEARS, SAMUEL D. INGHAM, III
CONSERVATEE: BY: SAMUEL D. INGHAM, III, ESQ.
4 444 SOUTH FLOWER STREET,
SUITE 4260
15 LOS ANGELES, CA 90071
16 LOEB & LOEB LLP
BY: DAVID C. NELSON, ESQ.
17 RONALD C. PEARSON, ESQ.
10100 SOUTH SANTA MONICA
18 BOULEVARD, SUITE 2200
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
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VIA L.A. COURT CONNECT FREEMAN FREEMAN AND SMILEY, LLP
20 FOR JAMES P. SPEARS, BY: GERALDINE A. WYLE
CO-CONSERVATOR OF THE JERYLL S. COHEN
21 ESTATE: ATTORNEYS AT LAW
1888 CENTURY PARK EAST,
22 SUITE 1900
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
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HOLLAND & KNIGHT, LLP
24 BY: VIVIAN L. THOREEN,
JONATHAN H. PARK,
25 ATTORNEYS AT LAW
400 SOUTH HOPE STREET,
26 8TH FLOOR
LOS ANGELES, CA 90071
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CQPY LISA D. LUNA, CSR #10229
OFFICIAL REPORTER
 APPEARANCES CONTINUED:

VIA L.A. COURT CONNECT WRIGHT KIM DOUGLAS, ALC

FOR JODI PACE MONTGOMERY, BY: LAURIANN WRIGHT,
TEMPORARY CONSERVATOR ATTORNEY AT LAW
OF THE PERSON: 130 SOUTH JACKSON STREET
GLENDALE, CA 91205

VIA TELEPHONE GINZBURG & BRONSHTEYN, APC

FOR LYNNE SPEARS, BY: YASHA BRONSHTEYN, ESQ.
INTERESTED PARTY: SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD,
SUITE 1840
LOS ANGELES, CA 90025

VIA TELEPHONE: JONES SWANSON HUDDELL &

O DASCHBACH, LLC
BY: LYNN E. SWANSON,
11 GLADSTONE N. JONES, III
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 PAN-AMERICAN LIFE CENTER
601 PYODRAS STREET, SUITE 2655
3 NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130
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 CASE NUMBER: BP108870
CASE NAME: IN RE: THE MATTER OF

BRITNEY JEAN SPEARS

CONSERVATORSHIP
L08 ANGELES, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 2021
DEPARTMENT 4 HON. BRENDA J. PENNY, JUDGE
REPORTER: LISA D. LUNA, CSR #10229
TIME: 1:41 A.M.

10 APPEARANCES:

11 AS INDICATED HEREIN

12 VIA L.A. COURT CONNECT.

3

4 THE CLERK: IF I CAN HAVE ALL PARTIES ON COURT CONNECT

15 PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN.

17 ALL PARTIES,
18 CALLED AS WITNESSES BY THE COURT, WERE DULY SWORN AND
19 TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS:
20 THE CLERK: YOU DO SOLEMNLY STATE THAT THE TESTIMONY

21 YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THE MATTER IS THE TRUTH, THE

22 WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD?

23 ALL PARTIES: I DO.

24 THE CLERK: THANK YOU. REMAIN ON THE LINE FOR THE

25 JUDGE TO TAKE THE BENCH.

26

27 (PROCEEDINGS DELAYED DUE TO

28 TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH RAAP.)
 THE COURT: OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I WANT
TO THANK THE PARTIES FOR THEIR PATIENCE
WHILE WE WORKED
THROUGH SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES. AND WE'VE GOTTEN THEM
RESOLVED. AND BEFORE I GET THE APPEARANCES OF THE COUNSEL
AND THEN THE PARTIES, I HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I
NEED TO MAKE.

SO FOR THE PARTIES IN DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS

4,
THE OVERFLOW COURTROOM IN DEPARTMENT
1, THERE ARE TO BE NO
PHOTOS, NO LAPTOPS, NO PHONES OF ANY NATURE, ONLY PEN AND
PAPER AND PENCIL, IF YOU HAVE THAT, THAT CAN BE USED FOR
NOTE TAKING.

AND RECORDINGS -- AND I'M ANNOUNCING THIS

FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE PARTIES IN BOTH THE COURTROO
MS AS WELL AS
THOSE APPEARING ON RAAP WHICH IS THE REMOTE
AUDIO
ATTENDANCE PROGRAM -- RECORDINGS ARE PROH
IBITED, OF ANY
KIND, ARE PROHIBITED EITHER IN THE COURTROO
M HERE IN
DEPARTMENT 4, DEPARTMENT 1, OR THE PARTIES APPEARING ON
RAAP. THERE IS NO BE NO LIVE TWEETING, NO ELECTRON
ICS,
AND AGAIN, NO RECORDING OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS
PERMITTED.
SO NEXT I'M GOING TO GET THE APPEARANCE
OF THE
ATTORNEYS AND THE PARTIES. AND THEN I WANT TO HEAR FROM
MS. SPEARS, AND MR. INGHAM, AND THEN THE OTHER
PARTIES,
AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS SOME HOUSEKEEPING MATT
ERS ONCE
WE'RE DONE WITH THAT. AND THEN THER
E IS AN ISSUE THAT I
WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THE PARTIES BEFORE WE
CONCLUDE.
SO I'M GOING TO GET THE APPEARANCE OF COUN
SEL
FIRST, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GET THE APPE
ARANCE OF THE
PARTIES. SO I'M GOING TO START FIRST WITH - AND I'M
 DOING -- JUST DOING IT IN ORDER WHICH I HAVE EVERYBODY
WNH HERE, SO IT'S NO PARTICULAR ORDER OTHER THAN THE ORDER

THAT'S LISTED ON THE SHEET THAT I HAVE.

MR. NELSON, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO.

MR. NELSON: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR. DAVID

NELSON OF LOEB AND LOEB, APPEARING AS COURT-APPOINTED

CO-COUNSEL FOR MS. BRITNEY SPEARS.

THE COURT: THANK YOU.

AND MS. WYLE, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO, I BELIEVE.
MS. WYLE: YOU DO, YOUR HONOR. GOOD AFTERNOON.
THE COURT: YES.

AND MR. PEARSON, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO, I BELIEVE

AS WELL.

MR. PEARSON: YES, YOUR HONOR. GOOD AFTERNOON. RON

PEARSON OF LOEB AND LOEB, COURT-APPOINTED COUNSEL FOR

MS. BRITNEY SPEARS.

THE COURT: THANK YOU.
AND MR. INGHAM, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO THIS
AFTERNOON.

MR. INGHAM: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR. SAMUEL

INGHAM, COURT-APPOINTED COUNSEL FOR BRITNEY JEAN SPEAR
S.
THE COURT: THANK YOU.
AND MS. WRIGHT, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO.
MS. WRIGHT: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. LAURIANN WRIGHT;
WRIGHT, KIM, DOUGLAS. I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR JODI
MONTGOMERY, WHO SERVES AS THE TEMPORARY CONSERVATO
R OF THE
PERSON.

THE COURT: THANK YOU.

 AND MR. BRONSHTEYN, I'VE GOT YOU ON THE PHONE, I

BELIEVE.

MR. BRONSHTEYN: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR.

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I'M PRESENT.

THE COURT: YES.

AND MR. PARK, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO, I BELIEVE.

MR. PARK: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR. JONATHAN
PARK OF HOLLAND AND KNIGHT FOR CONSERVATOR JAMES P.

SPEARS.

10 THE COURT: THANK YOU.

AND MS. COHEN, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO AS WELL.
12 MS. COHEN: YES, YOUR HONOR. JERYLL COHEN OF FREEMAN,
3 FREEMAN, AND SMILEY, APPEARING FOR CONSERVATOR JAMES P.

4 SPEARS.

15 THE COURT: THANK YOU.

16 AND MS. THOREEN, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO AS WELL.
17 MS. THOREEN: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR.
18 VIVIAN THOREEN OF HOLLAND AND KNIGHT, APPEARING ON BEHALF
9 OF JAMES P. SPEARS, CONSERVATOR OF THE ESTATE.
20 THE COURT: THANK YOU.
21 AND MR. JONES, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO THIS
22 AFTERNOON.

23 MR. JONES: YES, YOUR HONOR. GOOD AFTERNOON.

24 GLADSTONE JONES FROM JONES SWANSON, ON BEHALF OF LYNNE
25 SPEARS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
26 THE COURT: THANK YOU. YES, OF COURSE.
27 AND THEN I WANT TO GET THE APPEARANCES OF THE
28 PARTIES. I'M GOING TO START WITH BRITNEY JEAN SPEARS.
 GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. SPEARS. I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON
THE TELEPHONE.
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MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.

A THE COURT: GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN
TODAY.

AND MS. MONTGOMERY, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO.

MS. MONTGOMERY: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. JODI PACE
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MONTGOMERY, TEMPORARY CONSERVATOR FOR BRITNEY SPEARS.

THE COURT: THANK YOU.

10 AND MS. LYNNE SPEARS, I'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO, I

BELIEVE.

12 MS. LYNNE SPEARS: NO, I'M ON TELEPHONE, YOUR HONOR.

13 THE COURT: OH, OKAY. NOT A PROBLEM. GOOD AFTERNOON,

4 MS. SPEARS.

15 AND MR. SPEARS, I'M SHOWING YOU ON VIDEO, BUT YOU

6 MIGHT BB ON THE PHONE.
17 MR. JAMIE SPEARS: YES, YOUR HONOR, I'M ON THE PHONE.
18 JAMES P. SPEARS, CO-CONSERVATOR OF THE ESTATE OF BRITNEY

19 JEAN SPEARS.

20 THE COURT: THANK YOU.

21 AND ALSO, I BELIEVE MS. LYNN SWANSON, YOU ARE ON
22 THE PHONE; IS THAT CORRECT?

23 MS. SWANSON: YES, YOUR HONOR. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS

24 IS LYNN SWANSON FROM JONES SWANSON. I AM HERE ON BEHALF
25 OF LYNNE SPEARS.

26 THE COURT: YES. GOOD AFTERNOON TO YOU AS WELL.

27 AND SO, MR. INGHAM, YOU KNOW, THE STATUS HEARING
28 WAS SET AT YOUR REQUEST BECAUSE MS. SPEARS DID WANT TO
 ADDRESS THE COURT THIS AFTERNOON. BUT I -- BEFORE I GET
TO HER, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU FIRST TO SEE IF YOU HAD
ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY BEFORE I GO TO HER.
MR. INGHAM: YES. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. I GREATLY
APPRECIATE THAT. THIS INDEED IS A SPECIAL STATUS HEARING
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THAT WAS SET AT THE REQUEST OF MY CLIENT. AS I UNDERSTAND

IT, THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, APART FROM WHATEVER

QUESTIONS THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IS THE OPPORTUNITY

FOR MY CLIENT TO ADDRESS THE COURT.

WE HAVE EMPLOYED THIS PROCEDURE SEVERAL TIMES IN

11 THE PAST BOTH IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND IN THE PREVIOUS

12 DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLED THIS CASE, AND ESSENTIALLY, MY

13 CLIENT, AT ANY TIME THAT SHE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COURT,

14 THE COURT WILL MAKE ITSELF AVAILABLE AND SET A STATUS

1, .
15 HEARING SUCH AS THIS ONE.
16 THIS IS -- THE GROUND RULES HERE, I BELIEVE, ARE
7 VERY SIMPLE. IT'S AN OPEN-ENDED HEARING. MY CLIENT IS
18 FREE TO DISCUSS ANY ASPECT OF THE CONSERVATORSHIP THAT SHE

19 WISHES, AND IS WELCOME TO SAY WHATEVER SHE LIKES. FOR THE

20 RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I HAVE NOT IN ANY WAY
21 ATTEMPTED TO CONTROL OR FILTER OR EDIT ANYTHING THAT SHE
22 HAS TO SAY TODAY. THESE ARE ENTIRELY HER WORDS. AND
23 SHE'S ON HER OWN INDEPENDENT PHONE CONNECTION. I WILL NOT
24 INTERRUPT HER AT ANY POINT, THAT ONCE SHE STARTS SPEAKING,

25 IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT SHE SAYS, I WILL NOT IN ANY WAY

26 ATTEMPT TO STOP HER FROM SPEAKING OR TEXT HER OR ANYTHING
27 ELSE. AND I WOULD ASK THE SAME COURTESY OF ALL COUNSEL,
28 THAT ONCE SHE STARTS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF SHE WOULD
 BE ALLOWED TO FINISH IN HER OWN
DUE COURSE. AND THAT'S
REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY, YOUR HONOR, AT THIS
POINT.
DWN
THE COURT: THANK YOU, MR. INGHAM. SO I WOULD ALSO
ECHO WHAT MR. INGHAM SAID, THAT WHEN
MS. SPEARS IS
SPEAKING, PLEASE, NOBODY TRY TO REAC
H OUT TO HER BY -- IN
ANY WAY.

DID ANY OF THE COUNSEL HAVE ANYTHING

THEY WANTED
TO SAY BEFORE I GET TO MS. SPEARS?

MS. WRIGHT: YOUR HONOR, THIS IS MS. WRIGHT.

I DID
10 WANT TO ASK -- WE DON'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT MS. SPEARS
11 IS GOING TO SAY, AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT SHE'S HERE TODA
Y TO
12 ADDRESS HER CONCERNS WITH THE COURT.
BUT IF WHAT SHE'S
3 GOING TO SAY MAY IMPACT HER MEDICAL
PRIVACY, MY CLIENT
4 DOES HOLD THOSE MEDICAL PRIVACY
RIGHTS, AND I WOULD ASK
15 THAT WE PLEASE SEAL THE TRANSCRIPT
AND CLEAR THE COURTROOM
16 SO THAT WE CAN PRESERVE THOSE MEDI
CAL RIGHTS. I THINK
7 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND IT COULD BE THAT SHE BRINGS UP
18 ISSUES RELATED TO HER FAMILY AND HER
MINOR CHILDREN, AND
19 THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVACY RIGHTS,
AND I THINK ANYTHING
20 SAID ABOUT THEM -

21 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB

22 AT - AT EXPLOITING MY LIFE IN THE WAY THAT
THEY'VE DONE,
23 UM, MY LIFE, AND I FEEL LIKE IT SHOU
LD BE AN OPEN COURT
24 HEARING, AND THEY SHOULD LISTEN AND,
UM, HEAR WHAT I HAVE
25 TO SAY.

26 THE COURT: OH, OKAY. THAT WAS MS. SPEARS SPEAKING.

27 OKAY.

28 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: THAT WAS ME, YES.

 THE COURT: THANK YOU, MS. SPEARS.
SO ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT SAID, MR. INGHAM, DID
YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU
WANTED TO SAY BEFORE I HAVE MS.
SPEARS SPEAK TO THE COURT?
MR. INGHAM: YOUR HONOR, ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY
IS
THAT MY CLIENT HAS INDICATED
TO ME THAT SHE WANTS THE
HEARING TO BE OPEN.
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THE COURT: OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO MS. SPEARS - AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST
IN APPEARING AT THE COURT TOD
AY. AND I DO RECALL THE LAST
10 TIME THAT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOU, SO I M
I
GLAD THAT
YOU'RE BACK HERE TODAY -

12 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: UH HUH.

13 THE COURT: -- AS WELL.
YOU WERE HERE, I BELIEVE IN
4 2019, I BELIEVE YOU WERE IN THE COURTROOM
.
15 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: UH-HUH.
16 THE COURT: SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU,
MS. SPEARS.
7 SO YOU MAY FEEL FREE TO ADDRESS
ME AT THIS POINT.
18 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY. WELL, UM, I JUST GOT A NEW
9 PHONE SO, UM, BEAR WITH ME. UM. OKAY. SO I HAVE THIS
20 WRITTEN. I HAVE A LOT TO SAY, SO BEAR WITH MB.
21 BASICALLY, A LOT HAS HAPPENED SIN
CE TWO YEARS AGO, THE
22 LAST TIME - I WROTE ALL THIS DOW
N - THE LAST TIME I WAS
23 IN COURT. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK
24 TO COURT IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE
I DON'T THINK I WAS HEA
RD
25 ON ANY LEVEL WHEN I CAME TO COU
RT THE LAST TIME. I
26 BROUGHT FOUR SHEETS OF PAPER IN MY
HANDS AND WROTE IN
27 LENGTH WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE
LAST FOUR MONTHS
28 BEFORE I CAME THERE. THE PEOPLE WHO DID THAT TO ME SHO
ULD
 NOT BE ABLE TO WALK AWAY SO EASILY. I'LL RECAP: I WAS ON
TOUR IN 2018 I WAS FORCED TO DO.
(JON

THE REPORTER: YOUR HONOR --

A MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: - MY MANAGEMENT SAID IF I DON'T
DO THIS TOUR, I WILL HAVE TO --
THE COURT REPORTER: - YOUR HONOR, COULD WE HAVE HER
OKDQQONU'I

SLOW DOWN.

THE COURT: MS. SPEARS. MS. SPEARS. I JUST -- I HATE

TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT MY COURT REPORTER IS TAKING DOWN

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING --

MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY.

12 THE COURT: -- AND SO YOU HAVE TO
SPEAK A LITTLE MORE
13 SLOWLY SO SHE'S ABLE TO HEAR YOU

4 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY.

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15 THE COURT: - AND THEN.

6 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: ABSOLUTELY. GREAT.
17 THE COURT: SURE.
18 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY.
19 THE COURT: NOT A PROBLEM.
20 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS TO ME
21 SHOULD NOT GET AWAY AND TO BE ABLE TO WALK AWAY SO EASILY.
22 TO RECAP: I WAS ON TOUR IN 2018. I WAS FORCED TO DO.
23 MY MANAGEMENT SAID IF I DON'T DO THIS TOUR, I

24 WILL HAVE TO FIND AN ATTORNEY, AND BY CONTRACT, MY OWN

25 MANAGEMENT COULD SUE ME IF I DIDN T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH
26 THE TOUR. HE HANDED ME A SHEET 0F PAPER AS I GOT OFF THE
27 STAGE IN VEGAS AND SAID I HAD TO SIGN IT. IT WAS VERY
28 THREATENING AND SCARY. AND WITH THE CONSERVATORSHIP, I
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COULDN'T EVEN GET MY OWN ATTORNEY. SO OUT OF FEAR, I WENT

N AHEAD AND I DID THE TOUR.

WHEN I CAME OFF THAT TOUR, A NEW SHOW IN LAS

a VEGAS WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE. I STARTED REHEARSING
EARLY, BUT IT WAS HARD BECAUSE I'D BEEN DOING VEGAS FOR
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FOUR YEARS, AND I NEEDED A BREAK IN BETWEEN. BUT, NO, I

WAS TOLD THIS IS THE TIMELINE AND THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA

GO. I REHEARSED FOUR TO FOUR (SIC) DAYS A WEEK, HALF OF

THE TIME IN THE STUDIO AND HALF OF THE OTHER TIME IN A

10 WESTLAKE STUDIO. I WAS BASICALLY DIRECTING MOST OF THE

11 SHOW WITH MY WHEREABOUTS (SIC) WHERE I PREFER TO REHEARSE
12 AND ACTUALLY DID MOST OF THE CHOREOGRAPHY, MEANING I

3 TAUGHT MY DANCERS MY NEW CHOREOGRAPHY MYSELF. I TAKE

4 EVERYTHING I DO VERY SERIOUSLY. THERE ARE TONS OF VIDEOS
5 WITH ME AT THE REHEARSALS. I WASN'T GOOD; I WAS GREAT.
16 I LED A ROOM OF 16 NEW DANCERS IN REHEARSALS.
7 IT'S FUNNY TO HEAR MY MANAGERS' SIDE OF THE STORY. THEY
18 ALL SAID I WASN'T PARTICIPATING IN REHEARSALS, AND I NEVER
19 AGREED TO TAKE MY MEDICATION, WHICH MY MEDICATION IS ONLY
20 TAKEN IN THE MORNINGS, NEVER AT REHEARSAL. THEY DON T
21 EVEN SEE ME, SO WHY ARE THEY EVEN CLAIMING THAT? WHEN I

22 SAID NO TO ONE DANCE MOVE INTO REHEARSALS, UM, IT WAS AS

23 IF I PLANTED A HUGE BOMB, UM, SOMEWHERE, AND I SAID, "NO.

24 I DON'T WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY."

25 AFTER THAT, MY MANAGEMENT, AND MY DANCERS, AND MY

26 ASSISTANT OF THE NEW PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE
27 NEW SHOW ALL WENT INTO A ROOM, SHUT THE DOOR, AND DIDN'T

28 COME OUT FOR AT LEAST 45 MINUTES.

 MA'AM, I'M NOT HERE TO BE ANYONE'S SLAVE. I CAN
WNH SAY NO TO A DANCE MOVE. I WAS TOLD BY MY, AT THE TIME
THERAPIST, DR. BENSON, WHO DIED, THAT MY MANAGER CALLED AT

THAT MOMENT AND TOLD HIM I WASN T COOPERATING OR FOLLOWING

THE GUIDELINES IN REHEARSALS, AND HE ALSO SAID I WASN'T
TAKING MY MEDICATION, WHICH IS SO DUMB BECAUSE I'VE HAD

THE SAME LADY EVERY MORNING FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS

GIVING ME MY SAME MEDICATION, AND I'M NOWHERE NEAR THESE

STUPID PEOPLE. IT MADE NO SENSE AT ALL.

10 THERE WAS A WEEK PERIOD WHERE THEY WERE NICE TO

ME, AND I SAID, "I DON'T WANNA DO" -- AND I TOLD THEM, "I
12 DON'T WANNA DO THE," UM -- THEY -- WAIT. NO. THEY WERE
13 NICE TO ME. THEY SAID IF I DON'T WANNA DO THE NEW VEGAS
4 SHOW, I DON'T HAVE TO, BECAUSE I WAS GETTING REALLY
15 NERVOUS. I SAID, "I CAN WAIT." IT WAS LIKE -- THEY TOLD
6 ME I COULD WAIT. IT WAS LIKE LIFTING LITERALLY 200 POUNDS

17 OFF OF ME WHEN SHE SAID I DON'T HAVE TO DO THE SHOW

18 ANYMORE BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY, REALLY HARD ON MYSELF AND
19 IT WAS TOO MUCH. I COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
20 SO I REMEMBER TELLING MY ASSISTANT THAT, BUT YOU
21 KNOW WHAT? I FEEL WEIRD IF I SAY "NO." I FEEL LIKE
22 THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND BE MEAN TO ME OR PUNISH ME OR

23 SOMETHING.

24 THREE DAYS LATER AFTER I SAID NO TO VEGAS, MY

25 THERAPIST SAT ME DOWN IN A ROOM AND SAID HE HAD A MILLION
26 PHONE CALLS ABOUT HOW I WAS NOT COOPERATING IN REHEARSALS,
27 AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TAKING MY MEDICATION. ALL OF THIS WAS
28 FALSE .
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HE IMMEDIATELY, THE NEXT DAY, PUT ME ON LITHIUM

OUT OF NOWHERE. HE TOOK ME OFF MY NORMAL MEDS I'VE BEEN

ON FIVE YEARS. AND LITHIUM IS A VERY, VERY STRONG AND

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MEDICATION COMPARED TO WHAT I WAS
USED TO. YOU CAN GO MENTALLY IMPAIRED IF YOU TAKE TOO

MUCH, IF YOU STAY ON IT LONGER THAN FIVE MONTHS, BUT HE

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PUT ME ON THAT AND I FELT DRUNK. I REALLY COULDN'T EVEN

TAKE UP FOR MYSELF. I COULDN'T EVEN HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH MY MOM OR DAD, REALLY, ABOUT ANYTHING. I TOLD HIM I

10 WAS SCARED AND MY DOCTOR HAD ME ON -- SIX DIFFERENT

NURSES
WITH THIS NEW MEDICATION, COME TO MY HOME, STAY WITH ME
TO
12 MONITOR ME ON THIS NEW MEDICATION WHICH I NEVER WANTED TO
13 BE ON TO BEGIN WITH. THERE WERE SIX DIFFERENT NURSES IN
4 MY HOME AND THEY WOULDN T LET ME GET IN MY CAR TO GO

15 ANYWHERE FOR A MONTH.

6 NOT ONLY DID MY FAMILY NOT DO A GODDAMN THING, MY
7 DAD WAS ALL FOR IT. ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO ME HAD TO
18 BE APPROVED BY MY DAD, AND MY DAD ONLY -- HE ACTED LIKE HE

9 DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS TOLD I HAD TO BE TESTED OVER THE

20 CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, BEFORE THEY SENT ME AWAY, WHEN MY KIDS
21 WENT HOME TO LOUISIANA. HE WAS THE ONE WHO APPROVED ALL
22 OF IT. MY WHOLE FAMILY DID NOTHING.
23 OVER THE TWO-WEEK HOLIDAY, A LADY CAME INTO MY
24 HOME FOR FOUR HOURS A DAY, SAT ME DOWN, AND DID A PSYCH
25 TEST ON ME. IT TOOK FOREVER. BUT I WAS -- I WAS TOLD I

26 HAD TO. THEN AFTER THAT, I GOT OFF OF -- OH, UM, WAIT. I

27 WAS TOLD I HAD TO. THEN AFTER, I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM MY
28 DAD SAYING, AFTER I DID THIS PSYCH TEST WITH THIS LADY,
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BASICALLY SAYING I HAD FAILED THE TEST OR WHATEVER -- OR

WHATEVER. "I'M SORRY, BRITNEY. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO
YOUR DOCTORS. THEY ARE PLANNING TO SEND YOU TO A SMALL
HOME IN BEVERLY HILLS TO DO A SMALL REHAB PROGRAM THAT
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE UP FOR YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO PAY
$60,000.00 A MONTH FOR THIS."

I CRIED ON THE PHONE FOR AN HOUR, AND HE LOVED

EVERY MINUTE OF IT. THE CONTROL HE HAD OVER SOMEONE AS
POWERFUL AS ME. AS HE LOVED THE CONTROL TO HURT HIS OWN
10 DAUGHTER 100,000 PERCENT. HE LOVED IT.
I PACKED MY BAGS AND WENT TO THAT PLACE. I

12 WORKED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, NO DAYS OFF, WHICH IN CALIFORNIA

13 THE ONLY SIMILAR THING TO THIS IS CALLED SEX TRAFFICKING,

14 MAKING ANYONE WORK, WORK AGAINST THEIR WILL, TAKING ALL

15 THEIR POSSESSIONS AWAY; CREDIT CARDS, CASH, PHONE,
6 PASSPORT, CAR, AND PLACING THEM IN THE HOME WHERE THEY
17 WORK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITH THEM. THEY OFFERED
18 THEY ALL LIVED IN THE HOUSE WITH ME, THE NURSES, THE 24/7

9 SECURITY. SOME DAYS THERE WAS ONE CHEF THAT CAME IN THERE
20 AND COOKED FOR ME, UM, DAILY ONLY DURING THE WEEKDAYS.

21 THEY WATCHED ME CHANGE EVERY DAY, NAKED, MORNING, NOON,

22 AND NIGHT.

23 MY BODY -- I HAD NO PRIVACY DOOR FOR MY ROOM. I

24 GAVE EIGHT GALLONS OF BLOOD A WEEK. I DIDN'T DO ANY OF MY

25 MEETINGS AND WORKED FROM 8:00 TO 6:00 AT NIGHT, WHICH IS

26 10 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK, NO DAYS OFF. I WOULDN'T BE

27 ABLE TO SEE MY KIDS OR MY BOYFRIEND. I NEVER HAD A SAY IN
28 MY SCHEDULE. THEY ALWAYS TOLD ME I HAD TO DO THIS. AND,
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MA'AM, I WILL TELL YOU, SITTING IN A CHAIR 10
HOURS A DAY,
7 DAYS A WEEK, IT AIN'T FUN. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
CAN'T WALK OUT THE FRONT DOOR.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU THIS AGAI

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TWO YEARS LATER, AFTER I'VE LIED AND
TOLD THE WHOLE WORLD
I'M OKAY AND I'M HAPPY. IT'S A LIE. I THOUGHT I - JUST
MAYBE IF I SAID THAT ENOUGH MAYBE I
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MIGHT BECOME HAPPY,

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN DENIAL. I'VE BEEN IN SHOCK. I AM
TRAUMATIZED. YOU KNOW, FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT.
BUT NOW
10 I'M TELLING YOU THE TRUTH,
OKAY? I'M NOT HAPPY. I CAN'T
11 SLEEP. I'M SO ANGRY IT'S INSANE.
AND I'M DEPRESSED. I

12 CRY EVERY DAY. AND THE REASON I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS
3 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HOW THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA CAN HAVE
14 ALL THIS WRITTEN IN THE COURT DOCUMENT
S FROM THE TIME I
15 SHOWED UP, AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
JUST HIRE, WITH MY
6 MONEY, ANOTHER PERSON TO KEEP MY DAD ON-B
OARD.
17 MA'AM, MY DAD AND ANYONE INVOLVED
IN THIS
18 CONSERVATORSHIP, AND MY MANAGEMENT WHO
PLAYED A HUGE ROLE
19 IN PUNISHING ME WHEN I SAID NO, MA'AM,
THEY SHOULD BE IN
20 JAIL. THEIR CRUEL TACTICS WORKING FOR MILEY CYRU
S AS SHE
21 SMOKES ON JOINTS ONSTAGE AT THE VMAS
, NOTHING IS EVER DONE
22 TO THIS GENERATION FOR DOING WRONG THIN
GS. BUT MY
23 PRECIOUS BODY, WHO HAS WORKED FOR MY DAD
FOR THE PAST
24 FUCKING 13 YEARS, TRYING TO BE SO GOOD
AND PRETTY, SO
25 PERFECT WHEN HE WORKS ME SO HARD. WHEN I'D DO EVERYTHING
26 I'M TOLD, AND THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ALLOWED MY FATHER --
27 IGNORANT FATHER TO TAKE HIS OWN DAUG
HTER, WHO ONLY HAS A
28 ROLE WITH ME IF I WORK WITH HIM, THEY
SET BACK THE WHOLE
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COURSE AND ALLOWED HIM TO DO THAT TO

ME? THAT'S GIVEN
THESE PEOPLE I WORKED FOR WAY TOO MUCH CONTROL.
AWNH

THEY ALSO THREATENED ME AND SAID IF DON'T G0,

I
THEN I HAVE TO GO TO COURT. AND IT WILL BE MORE
EMBARRASSING ME IF THE JUDGE PUBLICLY
MAKES JOKES OF ALL
THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE. YOU HAVE TO GO. I WAS ADVISED FOR

MY IMAGE I NEED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST

GO AND GET IT OVER
WITH. THEY SAID THAT TO ME. I DON'T EVEN DRINK ALCOHOL.

I - SHOULD DRINK ALCOHOL CONSIDERING WHAT

I
THEY PUT MY
HEART THROUGH.

ALSO, THE BRIDGES FACILITY THEY SENT ME

TO, NONE
OF THE KIDS -- I WAS DOING THIS PROGRAM FOR FOUR MONTHS -
SO THE LAST TWO MONTHS I WENT TO A BRIDGES FACILITY. NONE
OF THE KIDS THERE DID THE PROGRAM. THEY NEVER SHOWED UP
FOR ANY OF THEM. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IF YOU
DIDN'T WANT TO. HOW COME THEY ALWAYS MADE ME GO?
HOW
COME WAS ALWAYS THREATENED BY MY DAD AND ANY
I
BODY THAT
PARTICIPATED IN THIS CONSERVATORSHIP,
IF I DON'T DO THIS,
WHAT THEY TELL ME AND ENSLAVE ME TO
DO, THEY'RE GOING TO
PUNISH ME?

THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO YOU BY JUST KEEPING THE

CONSERVATORSHIP GOING AND ALSO KEEPIN
G MY DAD IN THE LOOP
MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS DEAD, LIKE I DIDN
'T MATTER, LIKE
24 NOTHING HAD BEEN DONE TO ME, LIKE YOU
THOUGHT I WAS LYING
25 OR SOMETHING. I'M TELLING YOU AGAIN, I'M
NOT LYING. I
26 WANT TO FEEL HEARD. AND I'M TELLING YOU THIS AGAIN SO
27 MAYBE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH
AND THE DEGREE AND THE
28 DAMAGE THAT THEY DID TO ME BACK THEN.
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I WANT CHANGES, AND I WANT CHANGES GOING FORWARD.

I DESERVE CHANGES. I WAS TOLD I'D HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND BE
EVALUATED AGAIN IF I WANT TO END CONSERVATORSHIP. MA'AM,
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I COULD PETITION THE CONSERVATORSHIP TO
END IT. I'M SORRY FOR MY IGNORANCE, BUT I HONESTLY DIDN'T
KNOW THAT. BUT HONESTLY, I DON T THINK I OWE ANYONE TO BE
EVALUATED. I'VE DONE MORE THAN ENOUGH. I DON T FEEL LIKE
I SHOULD EVEN BE IN A ROOM WITH ANYONE TO OFFEND ME BY

TRYING TO QUESTION MY CAPACITY OF INTELLIGENCE WHETHER I

NEED TO BE IN THIS STUPID CONSERVATORSHIP OR NOT.

I'VE DONE MORE THAN ENOUGH. I DON'T OWE THESE

12 PEOPLE ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY ME, THE ONE THAT HAS ROOFED

13 AND FED TONS OF PEOPLE ON THE TOUR ON THE ROAD. IT'S

4 EMBARRASSING AND DEMORALIZING WHAT I VE BEEN THROUGH. AND
5 THAT'S THE MAIN REASON I'VE NEVER SAID IT OPENLY.
AND
16 MAINLY, I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT OPENLY BECAUSE I HONESTLY
17 DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD BELIEVE ME.

18 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE PARIS HILTON STORY ON

19 WHAT THEY DID TO HER AT THAT -- THAT SCHOOL, I DIDN'T
20 BELIEVE ANY OF IT OF IT. I'M SORRY. AND I'M AN
21 OUTSIDER AND I'LL JUST BE HONEST. I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT.
22 AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY
23 ANY OF THIS TO ANYBODY, TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE PEOPLE

24 WOULD MAKE FUN OF ME OR LAUGH AT ME AND SAY, "SHE'S LYING.

25 SHE'S GOT EVERYTHING. SHE'S BRITNEY SPEARS."
26 I'M NOT LYING. JUST WANT MY LIFE BACK.
I AND
27 IT'S BEEN 3 YEARS AND IT S ENOUGH. IT S BEEN A LONG TIME
28 SINCE I'VE OWNED MY MONEY. AND IT'S MY WISH AND MY DREAM
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FOR ALL OF THIS TO END WITHOUT BEING TESTED. AGAIN, IT

MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO

SIT BACK AND LITERALLY WATCH ME WITH THEIR OWN TWO EYES,

MAKE A LIVING FOR SO MANY PEOPLE AND PAY SO MANY PEOPLE

TRUCKS AND BUSES ON TOUR, ON THE ROAD WITH ME, AND BE TOLD
I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH. BUT I'M GREAT AT WHAT I DO. AND I

ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO CONTROL WHAT I DO, MA'AM, AND IT'S

ENOUGH. IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

NOW, GOING FORWARD, I'M NOT WILLING TO MEET OR

10 SEE ANYONE. I'VE MET WITH ENOUGH PEOPLE AGAINST MY WILL.

11 I'M DONE. ALL I WANT IS TO OWN MY MONEY, FOR THIS TO END,

12 AND MY BOYFRIEND, UM, TO DRIVE ME IN HIS FUCKING CAR. AND
13 I WOULD HONESTLY LIKE TO SUE MY FAMILY, TO BE TOTALLY
14 HONEST WITH YOU.

15 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE MY STORY

16 WITH THE WORLD AND, UM, WHAT THEY DID TO ME INSTEAD OF IT
17 BEING A HUSH-HUSH SECRET TO BENEFIT ALL OF THEM. I WANT
18 TO BE ABLE TO BE HEARD ON WHAT THEY DID TO ME BY MAKING ME

9 KEEP THIS IN FOR SO LONG. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR MY HEART.

20 I VE BEEN SO ANGRY, AND I CRY EVERY DAY. IT CONCERNS ME

21 I'M TOLD I M NOT ALLOWED TO EXPOSE THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS

22 TO ME. FOR MY SANITY, I NEED YOU TO -- THE JUDGE, TO

23 APPROVE ME TO DO AN INTERVIEW WHERE I CAN BE HEARD ON WHAT
24 THEY DID TO ME. AND ACTUALLY, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE MY
25 VOICE AND TAKE UP FOR MYSELF. MY ATTORNEY SAYS I CAN'T,
26 IT'S NOT GOOD. I CAN'T LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ANYTHING THEY
27 DID TO ME. AND BY NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS SAYING IT S
28 OKAY.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SAID HERE. IT'S NOT OKAY. I

WOULD MUCH - ACTUALLY, I DON'T WANT AN INTERVIEW, I'D

MUCH RATHER JUST HAVE AN OPEN CALL TO YOU FOR THE PRESS TO

HEAR, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW TODAY WE'RE DOING, SO THANK YOU.

GUI
INSTEAD OF HAVING AN INTERVIEW, HONESTLY, I NEED
THAT TO GET IT OFF MY HEART, THE ANGER AND ALL OF IT, THAT
-- THAT -- IT'S NOT FAIR THEY'RE
TELLING ME LIES ABOUT ME
OPENLY. EVEN MY FAMILY. THEY DO INTERVIEWS TO ANYONE
THEY WANT ON NEWS STATIONS. MY OWN FAMILY DOING
10 INTERVIEWS AND TALKING ABOUT THE SITUATION AND MAKING ME
11 FEEL SO STUPID, AND I CAN'T SAY ONE THING. AND MY OWN
12 PEOPLE SAY I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.
3 IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS. I WANT A RECORDED CALL TO
14 YOU *- ACTUALLY WE'RE DOING THIS NOW WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW
15 THAT WE WERE DOING THIS -- AND TO THE PUBLIC TO SAY --

6 KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO ME. I KNOW MY -- I KNOW MY LAWYER,

17 SAM, HAS BEEN VERY SCARED FOR ME TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE

8 HE'S SAYING IF I SPEAK UP I'M BEING OVERWORKED IN THAT

19 FACILITY, THAT REHAB PLACE, THE REHAB PLACE WILL SUE ME.

20 HE TOLD ME I SHOULD KEEP IT TO MYSELF, REALLY. I WOULD

21 PERSONALLY LIKE TO -- ACTUALLY, I KNOW -- I HAVE GROWN
22 WITH A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SAM, MY LAWYER. I'VE
23 BEEN TALKING TO HIM, LIKE, THREE TIMES A WEEK NOW. WE'VE
24 KIND OF BUILT A RELATIONSHIP, BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE
25 OPPORTUNITY BY MY OWN SELF TO ACTUALLY HANDPICK MY OWN
26 LAWYER BY MYSELF, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
27 I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ALSO -- UM - THE MAIN

28 REASON WHY I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I WANT TO END THE

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CONSERVATORSHIP WITHOUT HAVING TO BE EVAL

UATED. I'VE DONE
A LOT OF RESEARCH, MA'AM, AND THERE'S
A LOT OF JUDGES WHO
DO END CONSERVATORSHIPS FOR PEOPLE
WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO
BE EVALUATED ALL THE TIME. THE ONLY TIMES THEY DON'T IS
IF A CONCERNED FAMILY MEMBER SAYS SOME
THING'S WRONG WITH
THIS PERSON, AND CONSIDER IT OTHER -
OTHERWISE AND
CONSIDERING MY FAMILY HAS LIVED OFF
\D

MY CONSERVATORSHIP FOR
3 YEARS, I WON'T BE SURPRISED
IF ONE OF THEM HAS
SOMETHING TO SAY AND GO FORWARD AND
SAY, "WE DON'T THINK
10 THIS SHOULD END. WE HAVE TO HELP HER." ESPECIALLY IF
I
GET MY FAIR TURN IN EXPOSING WHAT THEY
DID TO ME.
12 ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT, AT
I
THE MOMENT,
3 MY OBLIGATIONS WHICH I PERSONALLY DON'T
THINK AT THE VERY
4 MOMENT I OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING. I HAVE THREE MEETINGS A

5 WEEK I HAVE TO ATTEND NO MATTER WHAT.

I JUST DON'T LIKE
6 FEELING LIKE I WORK FOR THE PEOPLE WHOM I PAY. I DON'T
17 LIKE BEING TOLD I HAVE TO, NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN IF I'M
18 SICK. JODI, THE CONSERVATOR, SAYS I HAVE TO SEE MY COACH,
19 KEN, EVEN WHEN I'M SICK. I WOULD LIKE TO DO ONE MEETING A
20 WEEK WITH A THERAPIST. I'VE NEVER BEFORE - EVEN BEFORE
21 THAT PLACE, HAD TWO THERAPY SESSIONS
. A THERAPY ONCE - A
22 THERAPY SESSION -- ONE THERAPY SESSION
WITH, UM, MY -- I
23 HAVE A DOCTOR AND THEN A THERAPY PERS
ON. WHAT I'VE BEEN
24 FORCED TO DO IS ILLEGAL IN MY LIFE.
I SHOULDN T BE TOLD I

25 HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE THREE TIMES A

WEEK TO THESE PEOPLE I
26 DON'T KNOW.

27 I'M TALKING TO YOU TODAY

BECAUSE I FEEL AGAIN,
28 YES, EVEN JODI IS STARTING TO KINDA TAKE
IT TOO FAR WITH
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ME. THEY HAVE ME GOING TO THERAPY TWICE A WEEK AND A

f
PSYCHIATRIST. I'VE NEVER, IN THE PAST, HAD - WAIT. THEY
HAD ME GOING -- YEAH, TWICE A WEEK AND DR. GOLD, SO THAT'S
(JON

THREE TIMES A WEEK. I'VE NEVER IN THE PAST HAD TO SEE A

THERAPIST MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK. IT TAKES TOO MUCH OUT OF

ME GOING TO THIS MAN I DON'T KNOW. NUMBER ONE, I'M SCARED
OF PEOPLE. I DON'T TRUST PEOPLE WITH WHAT I'VE BEEN

THROUGH.

AND THE CLEVER SETUP OF BEING IN WESTLAKE, ONE OF

10 THE MOST EXPOSED PLACES IN WESTLAKE WHICH TODAY --

11 YESTERDAY PAPARAZZI SHOWED ME COMING OUT OF THE PLACE

12 LITERALLY CRYING, IN THERAPY. IT'S EMBARRASSING AND IT'S
3 DEMORALIZING. I DESERVE PRIVACY WHEN I GO. I DESERVE
14 PRIVACY WHEN I GO AND HAVE THERAPY EITHER AT MY HOME, LIKE
15 I'VE DONE FOR EIGHT YEARS, THEY'VE ALWAYS COME
TO MY HOME
16 OR THE -- DR. BENSON, THAT'S THE MAN THAT DIED, I WENT
TO
7 A PLACE SIMILAR TO WHAT I WENT TO IN WESTLAKE, WHICH WAS
18 VERY EXPOSED AND REALLY BAD.
9 OKAY. SO WHERE WAS I? IN WESTLAKE. IT'S -- IT
20 WAS IDENTICAL TO DR. BENSON WHO DIED, THE ONE WHO

21 ILLEGALLY, YES 100 --

22 THE COURT REPORTER: YOUR HONOR, CAN WE HAVE HER SLOW

23 DOWN.

24 THE COURT: MS. SPEARS. MS. SPEARS. EXCUSE ME FOR

25 INTERRUPTING YOU, BUT MY REPORTER SAYS IF YOU COULD JUST
26 SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE

27 SHE GETS EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND SO --

28 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY, COOL.
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THE COURT: -- SO THAT WOULD BE

GREAT.
fa MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY. IT WAS IDENTICAL TO
DR. BENSON, WHO DIED, THE ONE WHO ILLEGALLY, YES
100 PERCENT ABUSED ME BY THE TREATMENT HE GAVE ME.
AND TO
BE TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU, WHEN HE PASSED AWAY, I GOT ON
MY KNEES AND THANKED GOD. IN OTHER WORDS, MY TEAM IS
PUSHING IT -- PUSHING IT WITH ME AGAIN. I HAVE TRAPPED
PHOBIAS BEING IN SMALL ROOMS BECAUSE THE TRAMA LOCKING
ME
UP FOR FOUR MONTHS IN THAT PLACE. IT'S NOT OKAY FOR THEM
10 TO SEND ME -- SORRY, I'M GOING FAST -- TO THAT SMALL ROOM

LIKE THAT TWICE A WEEK WITH ANOTHER NEW THERAPIST I PAID

12 THAT I NEVER EVEN APPROVED. I DON'T LIKE IT. I DON'T
13 WANT TO DO THAT. AND I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG TO
14 DESERVE THIS TREATMENT. IT'S NOT OKAY TO FORCE ME TO DO
15 ANYTHING I DON'T WANNA DO.
16 BY LAW - BY LAW, JODI AND THIS SO-CALLED TEAM
7 SHOULD HONESTLY -- I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUE THEM FOR
18 THREATENING ME AND SAYING, "IF I DON'T GO AND DO THESE
19 MEETINGS TWICE A WEEK, WE CAN'T LET YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY
20 AND GO TO MAUI ON YOUR VACATIONS. YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT
21 YOU'RE TOLD THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND THEN YOU'LL
BE ABLE
22 TO GO." BUT IT WAS A VERY CLEVER THING; ONE OF THE
MOST
23 EXPOSED PLACES IN WESTLAKE, KNOWING I HAVE THE HOT TOPIC
24 OF THE CONSERVATORSHIP, THAT OVER FIVE PAPARAZZI ARE GOING

25 TO SHOW UP AND GET ME CRYING, COMING OUT OF THAT PLACE.

I

26 BEGGED THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DID THIS AT MY HOME SO

27 I WOULD HAVE PRIVACY. I DESERVE PRIVACY.
28 THE WHOLE CONSERVATORSHIP FROM THE BEGINNING ONCE
 22

-- THE CONSERVATORSHIP - OH - THE CONSERVATORSHIP FROM

THE BEGINNING, ONCE YOU SEE SOMEONE, WHOEVER IT IS IN THE

CONSERVATORSHIP MAKING MONEY, MAKING THEIR MONEY AND

MYSELF MONEY AND WORKING, THAT WHOLE - THAT WHOLE

STATEMENT RIGHT THERE, THE CONSERVATORSHIP SHOULD END.

THERE SHOULD BE NO -- I SHOULDN'T BE IN A CONSERVATORSHIP

IF I CAN WORK AND PROVIDE MONEY AND WORK FOR MYSELF AND

PAY OTHER PEOPLE. IT MAKES NO SENSE. THE LAWS NEED TO

CHANGE. WHAT STATE ALLOWS PEOPLE TO OWN ANOTHER PERSON'S
MONEY AND ACCOUNT AND THREATEN THEM IN SAYING, "YOU CAN'T
11 SPEND YOUR MONEY UNLESS YOU DO WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO,"
12 AND I'M PAYING THEM.
13 MA'AM, I'VE WORKED SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD. YOU
14 HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIN THAT IS FOR ME EVERY MORNING

15 I GET UP TO KNOW I CAN'T GO SOMEWHERE UNLESS I MEET PEOPLE

16 I DON'T KNOW EVERY WEEK IN AN OFFICE IDENTICAL TO THE ONE

7 WHERE THE THERAPIST WAS VERY ABUSIVE TO ME. I TRULY

18 BELIEVE THIS CONSERVATORSHIP IS ABUSIVE, AND THAT WE CAN
9 SIT HERE ALL DAY AND SAY, "OH, CONSERVATORSHIPS ARE HERE
20 TO HELP PEOPLE." BUT, MA'AM, THERE'S A THOUSAND
21 CONSERVATORSHIPS THAT ARE ABUSIVE AS WELL.
22 I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN LIVE A FULL LIFE. I

23 DON'T OWE -- I DON'T OWE THEM TO GO SEE A MAN I DON'T KNOW

24 AND SHARING MY PROBLEMS. I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN THERAPY.
25 I ALWAYS THINK YOU TAKE IT TO GOD. I WANT TO END THE
26 CONSERVATORSHIP WITHOUT BEING EVALUATED. IN THE MEANTIME,
27 I WANT THIS THERAPIST ONCE A WEEK. HE CAN EITHER COME TO
28 MY HOME -- UM, NO, I JUST WANT HIM TO COME TO MY HOME.
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I'M NOT WILLING TO GO TO WESTLAKE AND BE EMBARRASSED BY

ALL THESE PAPARAZZI, THESE SCUMMY PAPARAZZI LAUGHING AT MY

FACES WHILE I'M CRYING, COMING OUT, AND TAKING MY

PICTURES. AS ALL OF THESE, UM, WHITE, NICE DINNERS, WHERE

PEOPLE, DRINKING WINE AT RESTAURANTS, WATCHING THESE

PLACES. THEY SET ME UP BY SENDING ME TO THE MOST EXPOSED

PLACES -
\OQQC\U'1

PLACES. AND I TOLD THEM I DIDN'T WANT TO GO

THERE BECAUSE I KNEW PAPARAZZI WOULD SHOW UP THERE.

THEY ONLY GAVE ME TWO OPTIONS FOR THERAPISTS, AND

10 I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, MA'AM, BUT THIS

IS THE ONLY CHANCE FOR ME TO TALK TO YOU FOR A WHILE. I

12 NEED YOUR - YOUR HELP. SO IF YOU CAN JUST KINDA LET ME

13 KNOW WHERE YOUR HEAD IS. I DON'T REALLY HONESTLY KNOW

4 WHAT TO SAY, BUT MY REQUESTS ARE JUST TO END THE

15 CONSERVATORSHIP WITHOUT BEING EVALUATED. I WANT TO

6 PETITION BASICALLY TO END THE CONSERVATORSHIP, BUT I WANNA
7 - I WANT IT TO BE -- PETITION TO END IT, BUT DON'T WANT
I

18 TO BE EVALUATED, TO BE SAT DOWN IN A ROOM WITH PEOPLE

19 FOUR HOURS A DAY LIKE THEY DID ME BEFORE, AND THEY MADE IT

20 EVEN WORSE FOR ME AFTER THAT HAPPENED.

21 SO I JUST -- I'M HONESTLY NEW WITH THIS, AND I'M

22 DOING RESEARCH ON ALL OF THESE THINGS. I DO KNOW COMMON

23 SENSE AND THE METHOD THAT THINGS CAN END. FOR PEOPLE IT
24 HAS ENDED WITHOUT THEM BEING EVALUATED. SO I JUST WANT
25 YOU TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDER -- CONSIDERATION.

26 I'VE ALSO DONE RESEARCH, AND WAIT -- ALSO, IT

27 TOOK A YEAR DURING COVID TO GET ME ANY SELF-CARE METHODS,
28 YEAR IN COVID. SHE SAID THERE WERE NO SERVICES AVAILABLE.
 24

SHE'S LYING, MA'AM. MY MOM WENT TO THE SPA TWICE IN

LOUISIANA DURING COVID. FOR A YEAR, I DIDN'T HAVE MY
NAILS DONE, NO HAIRSTYLING, AND NO MASSAGES, NO

ACUPUNCTURE, NOTHING FOR A YEAR. I SAW THE MAIDS IN MY

HOME EACH WEEK WITH THEIR NAILS DONE DIFFERENT
EACH TIME.
SHE MADE ME FEEL LIKE MY DAD DOES, VERY
SIMILAR, HER
BEHAVIOR, AND MY DAD, BUT JUST A DIFFERENT
DYNAMIC.
TEAM WANTS ME TO WORK AND STAY HOME INSTEAD
OF
HAVING LONGER VACATIONS. THEY'RE -- THEY ARE USED TO ME
SORT OF DOING A WEEKLY ROUTINE FOR THEM, AND I'M
OVER IT.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE I OWE THEM ANYTH
ING AT THIS POINT. THEY
NEED TO BE REMINDED THEY ACTUALLY WORK FOR ME.
THEY
TRICKED ME BY SENDING ME TO THE - OKAY. I REPEATED
MYSELF THERE.

OKAY. UM, ALSO, I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO --

I HAVE A FRIEND THAT I USED TO DO AA MEETINGS WITH. I DID
AA FOR TWO YEARS. I DID LIKE I HAD THREE MEETINGS A
WEEK, YOU KNOW, I'VE MET A BUNCH OF WOMEN THERE, AND I'M

NOT ABLE TO SEE MY FRIENDS THAT LIVE EIGHT MINUT

ES AWAY
FROM ME WHICH I FIND EXTREMELY STRANGE. I FEEL LIKE
THEY'RE MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I LIVE IN A REHAB PROGRAM.
THIS IS MY HOME.

I'D LIKE FOR MY BOYFRIEND TO BE ABLE

TO DRIVE ME
IN HIS CAR. AND I WANT TO MEET WITH THE THERAPIST ONCE A
WEEK, NOT TWICE A WEEK. AND I WANT HIM TO COME TO MY HOME
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY KNOW I DO NEED A LITTLE THERAPY.

UM, I WAS TOLD, UM HOLD ON. I THINK THAT --

OH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROGRESSIVELY MOVE FORWARD, AND
I
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WANT TO HAVE THE REAL DEAL. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET

-
MARRIED AND HAVE A BABY. I WAS TOLD RIGHT NOW IN THE
CONSERVATORSHIP I'M NOT ABLE TO GET MARRIED OR HAVE A
BABY. I HAVE AN ID(SIC) INSIDE OF MYSELF RIGHT NOW SO I

DON'T GET PREGNANT. I WANTED TO TAKE THE ID(SIC) OUT SO I

COULD START TRYING TO HAVE ANOTHER BABY, BUT THIS

SO CALLED TEAM WON'T LET ME GO TO THE DOCTOR TO TAKE IT

OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ME TO HAVE CHILDREN, ANY MORE

CHILDREN. SO BASICALLY THIS CONSERVATORSHIP IS DOING ME

10 WAY MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

I DESERVE TO HAVE A LIFE. I'VE WORKED MY WHOLE

12 LIFE. I DESERVE TO HAVE A TWO- TO THREE YEAR BREAK AND
3 JUST, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WANT TO DO. BUT
I I DO FEEL LIKE
4 THERE IS A CRUTCH HERE, AND I FEEL LIKE - I FEEL OPEN AND
15 I'M OKAY TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT BUT
IT, I WISH I COULD
16 STAY WITH YOU ON THE PHONE FOREVER BECAUSE WHEN I GET OFF
17 THE PHONE WITH YOU, ALL 0F A SUDDEN, ALL OF I HEAR - ALL

18 OF THESE NO'S. NO. NO. NO. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, I

9 GET -- I FEEL GANGED UP ON, AND I FEEL BULLIED, AND I FEEL

20 LEFT OUT AND ALONE. AND I'M TIRED OF FEELING ALONE. I

21 DESERVE TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS ANYBODY DOES BY HAVING

22 A CHILD, A FAMILY, ANY OF THOSE THINGS, AND MORE SO. AND
23 THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY TO YOU, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
24 FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

25 THE COURT: OH, MS. SPEARS, YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME. AND

26 ALSO, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I CERTAINLY AM
27 SENSITIVE TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND HOW YOU'RE
28 FEELING. AND I KNOW THAT IT TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE FOR YOU
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TO SAY EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAD

T0 SAY TODAY, AND I WANT T0
LET YOU TO KNOW THAT THE COURT
DOES APPRECIATE YOUR COMING
ON THE LINE AND SHARING HOW YOU'RE
FEELING.
MS. BRITNEY SPEARS:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, YOU KNO
W,
GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU.
THE COURT: YOU'RE CBRTAINLY WELCOME.

YOU KNOW, MR. INGHAM, YOU KNOW

SO,
THAT THERE ARE
METHODS TO GET CONSERVATORSHIPS
TERMINATED, AND IF THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT
DOING, YOU KNOW YOU CAN
10 CERTAINLY FILE A PETITION FOR THE
COURT TO CONSIDER THAT.
11 MR. INGHAM: YOUR HONOR, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME
TO
12 RESPOND TO THAT ISSUE WITHOUT BRE
ACHING ATT ORNEY/CLIENT
13 PRIVILEGE, AND SO THEREFORE I WON'T EVEN TRY TO TOUCH ON
4 THAT ISSUE.
15 THE COURT: I KNOW.
16 MR. INGHAM: AM CONCERNED ABOUT SEVERAL OF THE
I

17 ISSUES THAT MY CLIENT HAS RAISED

HERE. I THINK THAT THE
18 OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND FIDUCIARI
ES HERE WILL DOUBTLESS
19 WANT TO WEIGH IN IN SOME FASHION.
IF MY CLIENT DIRECTS ME
20 TO FILE A PETITION TO TERMINATE
, I'M HAPPY TO DO THA T. SO
21 FAR SHE HAS NOT DONE THAT. THAT'S THE MOST THAT I WILL
22 SAY ABOUT THAT ISSUE.

23 THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND.

24 MR. INGHAM: WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUE OF PRIVAT
E
25 COUNSEL REPLACING ME AS HER COUNSE
L, I AM HAPPY TO TAKE
26 GUIDANCE FROM THE COURT AS TO HOW
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET
27 THAT ISSUE UP AND HOW YOU WOULD
LIKE TO DEAL WITH IT. SO
28 I WILL NOT MAKE ANY COM
MENT, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I
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SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT, AND IF THE COURT

DECIDES THAT I SHOULD BE REPLACED BY SOMEONE ELSE, THEN

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. HOWEVER THE COURT WANTS TO HANDLE
THAT.

AND I SUSPECT THAT MS. MONTGOMERY OR HER COUNSEL

WILL WANT TO RESPOND ON THE MEDICAL SIDE, BUT FROM MY

POINT OF VIEW IN A PROCEDURAL SENSE, I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS

TO ME THAT WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN MY CLIENT AND

THE CONSERVATOR OF HER PERSON, TEMPORARY CONSERVATOR OF

10 HER PERSON, AS TO HER CURRENT CARE PLAN. AND SO IT SEEMS

TO ME THAT THE SIMPLE WAY TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE IS TO HAVE

12 THE CONSERVATOR OF THE PERSON FILE A PROPOSED CARE PLAN,

13 SET IT FOR HEARING, AND HAVE MY CLIENT HAVE A CHANCE TO

4 ADDRESS IT AND DEAL WITH IT. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PAST THE

15 POINT THAT IT CAN BE NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.

16 SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ABOUT ALL I WOULD WANT TO SAY AT

7 THIS POINT, AND WOULD DEFER TO OTHER COUNSEL TO RESPOND

18 THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
19 THE COURT: MR. INGHAM, THANK YOU. AND I CERTAINLY
20 DON'T WANT YOU TO GET INTO THE ATTORNEY CLIENT

21 DISCUSSIONS, OBVIOUSLY, BETWEEN YOU AND MS. SPEARS. YOU

22 ACTUALLY FORESHADOWED SOMETHING THAT I MADE A NOTE TO
23 MYSELF ABOUT, ABOUT THE ISSUE ABOUT - THAT MS. SPEARS
24 RAISED ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREATMENT. AND I WAS
25 GOING TO ASK MS. WRIGHT AND MS. MONTGOMERY, AND I THINK
26 CERTAINLY FILING THAT CARE PLAN AND HAVING IT SET FOR

27 HEARING IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. BUT I WAS

28 ACTUALLY GOING TO TELL THEM TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE
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OBVIOUSLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSING A

CONCERN. WE
DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANYTHING THAT S
GOING TO BE THE
REVERSE OF WHAT'S TRYING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED
.
BUT MS. WRIGHT, I M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU AT
THIS POINT.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED, MS. WRIGHT. YOU'RE MUTED.

MS. WRIGHT: THERE WE GO. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
THIS IS MS. WRIGHT.

WE CERTAINLY DO HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECT

IVE ON
MANY OF THE ISSUES AND FACTS THAT WERE RAIS
ED BY
MS. SPEARS, BUT I DON'T THINK TODAY IS THE APPROPRIATE
FORUM TO AIR THOSE OUT. I DO LOVE THIS IDEA OF A CARE
PLAN. WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY T0 PUT ONE TOGETHER
. MY
CLIENT WORKS WITH A MEDICAL TEAM, A VERY HIGH
LY QUALIFIED
AND VETTED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. ANY DECI
SIONS SHE MAKES
IS WITH THEIR INPUT AND THEIR RECOMMEN
DATIONS, AND SO WE
CERTAINLY HAVE THOSE READY. WE CAN PUT THEM INTO
A CARE
PLAN. MY ONLY CONCERN IS, AS WE GO INTO THESE IN
MORE
DETAIL.

I AM VERY CONCERNED WITH MS. SPEARS' MEDICAL

PRIVACY, AND I DON'T THINK THE DETAILS OF HER CARE PLAN
AND THE PROGRESS SHE'S BEEN MAKING AND HER COND
ITIONS
SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT
WHEN WE FILE THE CARE PLAN, WE OBVIOUSLY WILL
PROVIDE IT
TO EVERYONE WHO IS A PARTY ON THIS CASE, BUT
I THINK IT

SHOULD BE SEALED FROM THE PUBLIC. I DON'T THINK THIS IS

THE BEST WAY TO VET OUT A CONSERVATEE'S MENT

AL HEALTH
ISSUES AND HER CARE PLAN. IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.
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I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT UNDER SEAL, AND THAT WOULD BE MY

REQUEST FOR THAT CARE PLAN. HAPPY TO FILE IT AND HAPPY TO

HAVE A HEARING ON IT.

THE COURT: WELL, IF YOU WANT TO FILE A MOTION PRIOR

TO THE HEARING ON THAT, THAT CERTAINLY IS YOUR RIGHT TO
DO
THAT.

MS. WRIGHT: SURE. WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TIMING TO

ACCOMMODATE THAT MOTION AND THEN THE FILING OF THE CARE
PLAN.

THE COURT: SURE. BUT I JUST APPRECIATE, MS. SPEARS,

YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO COME --

12 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: BUT I HAVE T0 BE IN AGREEMENT TO

13 THIS CARE PLAN. I CAN'T BE FORCED TO DO WHAT I DON'T WANT
14 TO DO.

15 THE COURT: OKAY. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A WAY TO

16 TRY TO, YOU KNOW, BE --

7 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: AND, MA'AM -- AND HONESTLY

18 BETWEEN YOU AND ME, THERE'S NOTHING -- I DON'T MIND DOING
19 THERAPY TWICE A WEEK. IT'S THE WAY THAT THEY EXPOSED ME
20 IN THAT PLACE, AND ONE WHERE PAPARAZZI ARE LOADED THERE.
21 AND I NEVER -- I DRIVE A LOT, BUT I NEVER GET OUT OF MY
22 CAR. AND SO ALL I WANT - IT S VERY SIMPLE -- I WOULD
23 JUST LIKE SOMEONE, THIS MAN, TO COME TO MY HOUSE TWICE A

24 WEEK, AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. I'M NOT ASKING FOR, YOU
25 KNOW, THE GUY CICERO (PHONETIC) FROM ITALY TO COME AND
26 VISIT ME FOR THERAPY. I JUST WANT A MAN TO COME HERE
27 TWICE A WEEK AND DO THE THERAPY THING BECAUSE THAT'S -*

28 THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO, SO. THAT'S MY - I JUST WANT

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YOU TO KNOW MY REQUEST.

THE COURT: OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. SPEARS, I APPRECIATE

THAT. AND I BELIEVE BOTH MS. WRIGHT AND MS. MONTGOMERY
ARE NODDING THEIR HEADS, SO THEY'RE HEARING WHAT YOU'R
E
SAYING. OKAY.

DO ANY OF THE OTHER COUNSEL HAVE ANYTHING

THAT
THEY WANT TO ADD THIS AFTERNOON?

MR. JONES: YOUR HONOR, I DO. IT'S GLAD JONES ON

BEHALF OF MS. LYNNE SPEARS.

THE COURT: GO AHEAD, PLEASE, SIR.

11 MR. JONES: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU FOR
12 HAVING US. YOUR HONOR, I FIRST WANT TO SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY
13 THAT WAS VERY COURAGEOUS OF THE CONSERVATEE, MS.
SPEARS.
14 AND HER MOTHER HAS GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THIS. BUT ONE
15 THING I WANT TO RAISE WITH THE COURT THAT I WANT TO MAKE
16 SURE THAT WE DON'T LEAVE THIS HEARING TODAY AND
FORGET
17 ABOUT WHAT MS. SPEARS SAID. SHE SAID WHEN SHE WAS THERE
18 IN MAY OF 2019, SHE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE SHE WAS HEARD. AND
19 IT FEELS INCUMBENT UPON ME TO ASK THE COURT THAT
WE MAKE
20 SURE THAT TODAY MS. SPEARS IS HEARD. AND TO THAT END, ONE
21 OF THE THINGS THAT SHE SAID THAT IS GOING TO VERY
MUCH
22 DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS HERE -- AND THIS IS NO SLIGHT
AGAINST
23 ANY COUNSEL IN THIS CASE -- BUT THE REQUEST FOR HER
TO
24 HAVE HER OWN COUNSEL, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUGGE
ST, YOUR
25 HONOR, GIVEN SINCE SHE ARTICULATED THE REASONS WHY SHE
26 WANTS THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE COURT MUST TAKE THAT
27 UP AT ITS EARLIEST CONVENIENCE, BECAUSE THAT
ISSUE MAY
28 VERY WELL DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF STEP
2, 3, AND

L
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SIMILARLY, SIMILARLY, THIS HEALTHCARE PLAN. I

ALSO ASK THE COURT TO TAKE THAT UP IMMEDIATELY.

THESE ARE
COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS THAT WE DID HEAR ABOUT
IN MAY OF
2019. TODAY IS THE DAY, WHILE THE WORLD WATCHES AND
LISTENS TO MS. SPEARS, IS THE DAY THAT WE RESPECTFULLY

REQUEST THAT THIS COURT PUT AN ACTION PLAN AT THE

LOS
ANGELES SUPERIOR COURT IN PLACE TO PROVIDE THE
RELIEF THAT
MS. SPEARS IS STILL ASKING FOR IN THIS HEARI
NG. THAT IS
10 CRITICAL. THAT IS HER MOTHER'S REQUEST. THAT IS WHAT WE
11 RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COURT, THAT WE NOT LEAVE THIS
12 PROCEEDING WITHOUT HAVING DATES TO MOVE FORWARD ON
THESE
3 BASIC REQUESTS THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS

14 CONSERVATORSHIP.
15 THE COURT: OKAY.
6 MR. JONES: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
17 THE COURT: THANK YOU, SIR.
18 ANY OTHER COUNSEL HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY?
19 MS. THOREEN: YOUR HONOR, VIVIAN THOREEN.
20 THE COURT: YES. GO AHEAD, MS. THOREEN.
21 MS. THOREEN: YOUR HONOR -- THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. I

22 APPRECIATE MS. SPEARS' COMMENTS AND THE COURAGE IT TOOK

23 HER TO MAKE THE REMARKS TO THE COURT. I WOULD LIKE TO
24 REQUEST A BRIEF RECESS SO THAT I MAY CONSULT WITH MY
25 CLIENT. THERE MAY BE ISSUES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND
26 TO. BUT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF TESTIMONY PROVIDED, I WOULD
27 LIKE TO REQUEST A RECESS SO THAT I CAN CONSULT WITH MY
28 CLIENT.
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THE COURT: OKAY. I THINK THAT THAT'S REASONABLE. SO

WE CAN TAKE A RECESS - WE CAN TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 5 AFTER
3:00. THAT WILL GIVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES, AND THAT WILL
GIVE
THE STAFF A CHANCE, ALSO TO HAVE A BRIEF BREAK
, AND THEN
WE CAN RECONVENE.

MR. JONES: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

MS. THOREEN: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
MS. WRIGHT: THANK YOU.

10 (RECESS TAKEN.)
11

12 (ATTORNEY YASHA BRONSHTEYN NOT PRESENT.)

13

4 THE COURT: OKAY. SO WE'RE BACK FROM OUR RECESS. AND

15 MR. THOREEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY THIS
16 AFTERNOON?
17 MS. THOREEN: YES, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE
18 TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT ON MR. SPEARS' BEHALF.

19 HE IS SORRY TO SEE HIS DAUGHTER SUFFERING AND IN

20 SO MUCH PAIN. MR. SPEARS LOVES HIS DAUGHTER AND MISSES
21 HER VERY MUCH.

22 THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

23 THE COURT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
24 OKAY. SO LET ME ASK MS. WYLE OR MS. COHEN, DID
25 YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD THIS AFTER
NOON?
26 MS. COHEN: THIS IS MS. COHEN. NO, YOUR HONOR. THANK
27 YOU.

28 MS. WYLE: THIS IS MS. WYLE. NO, YOUR HONOR. THANK

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YOU.

THE COURT: OKAY.

AND MR. NELSON, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

b
MR. NELSON: NO, YOUR HONOR, I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
THANK YOU.

THE COURT: GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.
MR. INGHAM: YOUR HONOR, PARDON ME. I HAVE AN
ADDITIONAL COMMENT THAT MY CLIENT HAS REQU
ESTED ME TO MAKE
TO THE COURT, IF I MAY?

THE COURT: CERTAINLY, MR. INGHAM.

MR. INGHAM: SHE JUST COMMUNICATED WITH ME, AND HER
STATEMENT TO ME WAS THAT SINCE SHE HAS MADE
THE REMARKS
THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO MAKE ON THE PUBLIC RECO
RD TODAY, SHE
BELIEVES THAT IT WILL BE ADVISABLE FOR PROCEEDI
NGS TO BE
SEALED GOING FORWARD.

THE COURT: OKAY. THANK YOU.

MR. INGHAM: AND ANOTHER QUICK COMMENT I'LL MAKE
BEFORE THE COURT ADDRESSES WHAT MY CLIENT HAS - AND
SAID
I WOULD CORROBORATE THE COMMENT 0F COUNSEL -- THAT
IT
OBVIOUSLY TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF COURAGE TO PRES
ENT THE
COMMENTS THAT MY CLIENT DID ON THE RECORD. AND
REGARDLESS
OF WHERE THE CHIPS MAY FALL FROM THEM, I APPL
AUD HER FOR
DOING SO. I JUST HAVE A SUGGESTION. I D LIKE TO AMPLIFY
MY EARLIER SUGGESTION WITH REGARD TO GOING
FORWARD, AND
THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE COURT WILL DECIDE WHAT TO
D0.
GIVEN THE POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP THAT I'VE
HAD WITH MS. SPEARS OVER THE YEARS, AND GIVEN THE
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IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUE OF COUNSEL FOR HER, ONE WAY TO

APPROACH THIS WOULD BE FOR ME TO DISCUSS WITH HER, OUT

OF
THE GLARE OF THE COURTROOM, TWO IMPORTANT ISSUES.
ONE IS
WHETHER SHE WANTS TO HAVE A PETITION TO TERMINATE FILED.
AND THE OTHER IS WHETHER SHE WANTS TO HAVE PRIVATE

COUNSEL, OTHER COUNSEL BROUGHT IN TO REPRESENT HER.

OBVIOUSLY, I WILL ABIDE BY WHATEVER DECISION SHE MAKES IN

THAT REGARD AND WILL FILE WHATEVER SHE DIRECTS ME
TO MAKE.
AND I MIGHT SUGGEST IN THAT REGARD, IF SHE'S
10 INTERESTED IN DOING SO, THAT IN MOST OF THOSE CONTEXTS, IT
11 MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR HER TO CHAT WITH MY ASSOCIATED
12 CO-COUNSEL, WITH LOEB AND LOEB, BECAUSE THEY ARE A FULLY
13 INDEPENDENT LAW FIRM. AND I DON'T DISCERN WHETHER SHE
14 TALKS TO THEM WITH ME 0R WITHOUT ME PRESENT, BUT THEY

15 MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE HER SOME INSIGHT INTO THESE ISSUES

6 GOING FORWARD.
17 AND AGAIN, ALL OF US -- AND I WON'T SPEAK FOR
18 THEM -- ALL OF US WILL HAPPILY ABIDE BY WHATEVER MY CLIENT
19 DECIDES TO DO WITH REGARD TO BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES.
20 THE COURT: OKAY. AND THANK YOU, MR. INGHAM, FOR
21 THAT. AND I JUST ALSO WANTED TO WELL, YOU'VE SUBMITTED
22 THAT TO SOME DEGREE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES
23 THAT MS. SPEARS RAISED THIS AFTERNOON DO REQUIRE A PROPER

24 PETITION TO BE BEFORE ME FOR ME TO CONSIDER, WHETHER IT BE

25 COUNSEL OR TERMINATION OR THE I THINK THE ISSUE ABOUT
26 THE CARE PLAN, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT I DID HEAR, YOU
27 KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT MS. SPEARS BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE
28 SHE'S GETTING SOME ASSISTANCE, AND IT'S IN MORE
OF A
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PUBLIC SPHERE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND URGE

MS. MONTGOMERY AND HER COUNSEL, ALONG WITH THE OTHER
(JON

PROFESSIONALS TO REALLY HEAR WHAT MS. SPEARS IS SAYING,

BECAUSE THE GOAL IS -- PART OF THE GOAL OF THE THERAPY IS

TO HELP, AND IF THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED IS NOT

FOSTERING THAT IN THE BEST WAY THAT IT COULD BE FOSTERED,

O b

THEN WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO MAKE SURE

THAT
IS ACCOMPLISHED.

SO I THINK THAT, MS. SPEARS, I JUST WANT TO

COMMEND YOU AGAIN FOR REALLY STEPPING FORWARD AND STEPPING

OUT TO HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS HEARD BY NOT ONLY MYSELF BUT

12 EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS CASE. AND I JUST

13 WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
4 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: THANK YOU.
15 THE COURT: YES. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
6 SO GOING FORWARD, I AM HAPPY TO PLACE MATTERS ON
17 MY CALENDAR AND GIVE OKAYS TO-SET MOTIONS OR PETITIONS.

18 IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE NEEDS - PROBABLY THE PARTIES

19 ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED,

20 AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN CALL THE COURTROOM AND WE CAN SET
21 UPDATES, RATHER THAN, MAYBE, TRY TO FIGURE OUT A DATE ON
22 THE RECORD HERE WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STEPS WOULD BE
23 TO THE POINT WHERE A MATTER WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE

24 COURT'S CALENDAR. BUT I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE

25 REQUESTS THROUGH MY CLERK AND GET MATTERS PUT ON THE
26 CALENDAR FOR DATES AND TIMES THAT ARE CONVENIENT FOR ALL
27 COUNSEL.

28 HOW DOES THAT SOUND TO EVERYBODY?

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EVERYBODY IS NODDING.

W )
MS. WRIGHT: THIS IS MS. WRIGHT. THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO
US. WE CAN CERTAINLY EMAIL EACH OTHER AND PICK
SOME DATES
h THAT WOULD WORK.

THE COURT: OKAY. AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, OF

COURSE, TODAY WAS THE STATUS HEARING THAT
THE COURT SET.
4 THERE IS NO PETITION BEFORE THE COURT. SO A NUMBER OF
THOSE ITEMS DO REQUIRE - THAT WE'VE BEEN
DISCUSSING
TODAY, BASED ON WHAT MS. SPEARS HAS BROUGHT TO THE
COURT
IN TERMS OF HER CONCERNS, THEY DO REQUI
RE PETITIONS. AND
SO THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. CONTACT MY CLERK,
WORK OUT SOME DATES, AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE
SURE
THAT THEY CAN BE SLOTTED AT A TIME THAT'S GOING
TO WORK
FOR EVERYBODY.

THE FINAL THING I WANTED TO BRING TO -- I DON'T

KNOW WHETHER THE PARTIES ARE AWARE OF THIS OR
NOT, BUT IT
WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY COURT ADMINISTRATION
THAT A
CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENT AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN A COURT
INVESTIGATOR REPORT THAT IS DEEMED TO BE CONFIDENTI
AL
PURSUANT TO PROBATE CODE SECTION 1826 AND 1851 -
WAS
PROVIDED TO THE MEDIA. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED,
BUT WE VE BEEN -- I WAS ADVISED BY ADMINISTRATION THAT IT
DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE COME FROM THE COURT, TO SOMEB
ODY
IN THE MEDIA. BUT I M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT
WAS PUT OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE, THINGS
THAT ARE
CONFIDENTIAL TO MS. SPEARS AND HER CASE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY INFORMATIO

N
ABOUT THAT OR IF ANYBODY WAS AWARE OF IT. BUT I WAS VERY
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CONCERNED WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT. SO YOU MAY WANT TO JUST,

MAYBE, LOOK A LITTLE MORE INTO THAT. BUT IT WAS VERY
CONCERNING. OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH

RAAP, THAT APPARENTLY SOMEBODY WAS RECORDING THE

PROCEEDINGS IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDER THAT I MADE THIS

MORNING, SO WE'RE GOING TO SHUT RAAP DOWN RIGHT NOW.

SO PLEASE DISABLE THE RAAP IMMEDIATELY.

THAT'S ALSO VERY CONCERNING, BECAUSE I

10 SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT THERE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANY

RECORDINGS, AND THAT HAPPENED NONETHELESS. SO I WANT

12 COUNSEL AND MS. SPEARS TO BE AWARE OF THAT, SO I MADE AN
3 ORDER THIS MORNING THAT THERE IS NOT TO BE ANY RECORDING,

14 AND SOMEBODY - AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S ONE PERSON

15 OR MORE THAN ONE PERSON -- VIOLATED THAT ORDER.

16 ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE CONCLUDE TODAY?

17 ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE CONCLUDE
18 TODAY? OKAY.

19 MS. SPEARS, THANK YOU, AGAIN.

20 MR. BRITNEY SPEARS: THANK YOU.
21 THE COURT: OKAY. AND THANK YOU, MR. SPEARS, FOR
22 PARTICIPATING.
23 AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. BRITNEY SPEARS, FOR YOUR
24 COMMENTS AND YOUR THOUGHTS THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE
25 PROCEEDINGS, AND I DO APPRECIATE IT.
26 MS. BRITNEY SPEARS: OKAY. THANK YOU.
27 THE COURT: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
28 (PROCEEDINGS CONCLUDED AT 3:23 P.M.)
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FOR THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

DEPARTMENT NO. 4 HON. BRENDA J. PENNY, JUDGE
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IN RE THE CONSERVATORSHIP OF
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BRITNEY JEAN SPEARS
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